Optical (Blu-ray/DVD) and Digital (EST/UV) Sales Thread

**bruceames** · 12-14-2012, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo13

I dont even have to try to look.

Im guessing we'll get another 'DEG is inflating numbers' conspiracy theory again, as we do every year since the numbers are always too high.

Gizmo was referring to YoY percentage growth and yes 2012 will end up being the "worst year ever" for Blu-ray.

2006 was the "worst year ever" for Blu-ray in terms of gross revenue, so obviously he wasn't referring to that.

Here is the DEG yearly revenue (in billions) and YoY growth for Blu-ray sell through since launch

Code:

Year	Rev 	YoY growth
2006	$0.02	n/a
2007	$0.25	1150.0%
2008	$0.63	152.0%
2009	$1.07	69.8%
2010	$1.80	68.2%
2011	$2.15	19.4%

GizmoDVD · 12-14-2012, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo13

I dont even have to try to look.

Im guessing we'll get another 'DEG is inflating numbers' conspiracy theory again, as we do every year since the numbers are always too high.

Always to high? LOL. Blu-ray is doing some pathetic numbers right now. Indy dropped within 2 months as did all the other big boxsets. LOL, too high. Notice how quite it is with the BD fanboys? They all ran away.

Echo13 · 12-15-2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceames

lol, I said it was "not overpriced", not that it was too cheap. It's a good deal for $150, and if that's all the studios can charge (well that get less than that at wholesale selling prices) for 22 Bond movies and still have it sell, then so be it.

Over here the bond movies are selling for $6.99 regular price which would be about $154 to get all films. $150 isnt a deal at all.
I got Battle Star Galactica Complete for $58 all in from amazon.co.uk. Now thats a deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD

Always to high? LOL. Blu-ray is doing some pathetic numbers right now. Indy dropped within 2 months as did all the other big boxsets. LOL, too high. Notice how quite it is with the BD fanboys? They all ran away.

This is exactly what the studios want you to think. As if $40+ for the indy set is somehow a bargain.

GizmoDVD · 12-16-2012, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo13

Over here the bond movies are selling for $6.99 regular price which would be about $154 to get all films. $150 isnt a deal at all.
I got Battle Star Galactica Complete for $58 all in from amazon.co.uk. Now thats a deal.
This is exactly what the studios want you to think. As if $40+ for the indy set is somehow a bargain.

So all the Bond flicks, including the dozen or so that we're unreleased until a few weeks ago, are $6.99? Link.

$40 is a bargain for Indy. This is Speilberg/Lucas, right?

Lee Stewart · 12-18-2012, 12:43 PM

Don't pay the ransom . . . I escaped!

Hi everyone. Just a quick hello and a chance to wish everyone here at HDF a Happy Holidays.

Talk to you next year.

Dave J · 12-18-2012, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Don't pay the ransom . . . I escaped!

Hi everyone. Just a quick hello and a chance to wish everyone here at HDF a Happy Holidays.

Talk to you next year.

You leaving us for the next couple of weeks?

**bruceames** · 12-18-2012, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Don't pay the ransom . . . I escaped!

Hi everyone. Just a quick hello and a chance to wish everyone here at HDF a Happy Holidays.

Talk to you next year.

Same to you, Lee.

**bruceames** · 12-18-2012, 05:44 PM

Updated thru week ending 12/8/12
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)

Code:

Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2012 TBO2011
2012 HMM    7175.89    -6.1%    5284.96   -10.1%    1890.84    7.1%    26.4%    9372.3  9348.4										
							

Q4 HMM      1909.12    -9.5%    1325.54   -12.2%     583.58   -2.8%    30.6%    2533.6  3083.2

49  12/8     303.97    -6.1%     193.44   -21.0%     110.53   40.3%    36.4%     567.3   624.8
48  12/1     217.83    -5.3%     152.95   -12.4%      64.88   16.9%    29.8%     336.6   282.0
47  11/24    388.81    -0.3%     278.21    -7.6%     110.60   24.6%    28.4%      84.4   194.5
46  11/17    169.81     1.0%     115.01   -10.6%      54.79   38.5%    32.3%     326.0    41.6
45  11/10    128.76   -29.6%      93.33   -27.9%      35.43  -33.8%    27.5%     309.7   422.9
44  11/3     126.70   -25.0%      96.30   -18.9%      30.39  -39.4%    24.0%      93.1   335.6
43  10/27    149.05     0.9%     109.23    12.7%      39.82  -21.6%    26.7%     227.0   204.5
42  10/20    139.08   -12.3%      98.69     1.8%      40.40  -34.4%    29.0%     311.3   370.0
41  10/13    137.69   -11.0%      91.68   -14.8%      46.02   -2.3%    33.4%     181.4   343.3
40  10/6     147.42   -20.5%      96.70   -12.5%      50.72  -32.2%    34.4%      96.8   264.0                               
			
Q3 DEG      1672.54    -4.0%    1195.84    -9.5%     476.70   13.0%    28.5%  (EST)187.1    10.1%(share)
Q3 HMM      1624.71    -3.7%    1199.77    -8.6%     424.65   13.3%    26.1%    2147.2  1806.5

39  9/29     198.99    28.7%     110.98     0.1%      88.01  101.1%    44.2%     624.6   352.1
38  9/22     118.97   -26.2%      89.54   -20.5%      28.63  -39.8%    24.2%     116.0   169.3
37  9/15     134.97   -18.9%     100.75    -6.9%      34.22  -41.1%    25.4%     208.4   190.8
36  9/8      118.56    -8.8%      92.98    -9.9%      25.58   -4.5%    21.6%      47.6   189.3
35  9/1      144.44    20.3%     107.25     5.3%      37.19  103.6%    25.7%     252.7    65.6
34  8/25     143.76    31.4%     105.81    15.3%      37.95  115.6%    26.4%     105.3    12.6
33  8/18     147.22    17.3%     108.08     5.7%      39.64   67.7%    26.8%     411.4   100.8
32  8/11     114.70    -7.0%      85.79   -13.8%      28.91   21.3%    25.2%     216.1   118.2
31  8/4       93.41   -33.4%      75.78   -32.4%      17.63  -37.3%    18.9%       0.6   189.8
30  7/28      94.17   -14.4%      74.35   -17.6%      19.82    0.4%    21.0%      18.5    56.8
29  7/21     103.79   -14.7%      80.67   -18.0%      23.12   -0.9%    22.3%      87.8    88.3
28  7/14     104.61   -12.5%      82.94   -13.7%      21.67   -7.4%    20.7%      57.9   267.8
27  7/7      107.12     0.7%      84.85    -1.2%      22.28    8.6%    20.8%       0.3     5.1

Q2 DEG      1674.15    -7.1%    1263.83   -10.1%     410.32    3.4%    24.5%
Q2 HMM      1631.18    -9.9%    1227.87   -13.3%     403.51    2.5%    24.7%    2296.8  2322.3

26  6/30     122.48    -3.7%      91.23    -5.2%      31.25    0.9%    25.5%     342.2   102.3
25  6/23     114.86    -7.7%      87.39   -11.5%      27.47    6.8%    23.9%      97.5   205.4
24  6/16     160.13     5.6%     113.84    -1.9%      46.29   30.2%    28.9%     275.1   208.2
23  6/9      151.52    14.4%     105.51     1.2%      45.61   61.4%    30.2%     370.6   305.0
22  6/2      111.57    -6.5%      85.76   -11.7%      25.81   16.4%    23.1%      36.1    15.8
21  5/26     109.16    -5.2%      82.48   -10.8%      26.88   17.7%    24.6%     179.2   154.4
20  5/19     109.04    -3.6%      82.49   -11.1%      26.55   30.7%    24.3%     200.0    99.9
19  5/12     121.91     8.4%      92.63     1.6%      29.28   37.8%    24.0%     187.4   155.6
18  5/5      107.56   -11.5%      84.66   -14.4%      22.90    1.5%    21.3%     104.9   148.6
17  4/28     103.68    -4.1%      78.66   -10.5%      25.02   23.5%    24.1%      67.6     0.0
16  4/21     109.99   -50.1%      81.31   -53.3%      28.68  -38.1%    26.1%     231.7   184.9
15  4/14     107.78   -42.5%      85.63   -37.4%      22.15  -56.2%    20.6%      51.3   314.8
14  4/7      201.90    13.9%     156.28    20.0%      45.62   -3.0%    22.6%     153.2   427.4

Q1 DEG      2060.00    -0.4%    1559.39    -6.1%     500.61   23.0%    24.3%
Q1 HMM      2010.88    -1.2%    1531.78    -6.6%     479.10   20.9%    23.8%    2394.7  2136.4

13  3/31     155.29   -19.9%     120.32   -17.4%      34.98  -27.6%    22.5%     168.6   319.2
12  3/24     148.56     8.5%     108.20    -2.8%      40.36   57.9%    27.2%     353.9   219.4
11  3/17     146.48     4.6%     112.13    -1.4%      34.34   30.2%    23.4%     276.1   154.2
10  3/10     165.27     9.5%     123.11     2.7%      42.16   35.7%    25.5%     216.0   177.1
9   3/3      150.39   -14.0%     115.29   -13.4%      35.10  -15.7%    23.3%      67.0   112.3
8   2/25     158.98    -2.2%     122.04    -7.3%      36.94   19.4%    23.2%     272.1   258.0
7   2/18     207.15    18.9%     160.38    10.4%      46.77   61.7%    22.6%      16.4    86.2
6   2/11     205.54    19.4%     151.09     3.1%      54.45  104.2%    26.5%     316.5   224.0
5   2/4      144.90    -8.6%     110.25   -16.0%      34.65   27.1%    23.9%     118.5    23.0
4   1/28     131.95   -13.6%      98.40   -20.2%      33.55   14.2%    25.4%     226.3   201.2
3   1/21     129.39    -2.4%     103.53    -4.9%      25.86    8.9%    20.0%     112.7    60.7
2   1/14     128.65    -5.1%     100.16    -7.7%      28.49    5.6%    22.1%     143.4   116.2
1   1/7      138.33    -8.0%     106.88   -11.6%      31.45    7.0%    22.7%     157.7   134.3

2011 DEG    8951.80   -13.2%    6851.80   -19.5%    2150.00   19.4%    24.0%    
2011 HMM    8604.20   -13.9%    6608.28   -20.3%    1995.92   17.7%    23.2%    9936.0 10820.9																			

Q4 DEG      3338.95   -11.0%    2464.81   -16.5%     924.14   15.5%    27.7%
Q4 HMM      3125.11   -12.4%    2280.75   -19.5%     844.36   15.1%    27.0%    3698.4  3932.2

52  12/31    174.13   -25.6%     130.29   -28.7%      43.84  -14.7%    25.2%      64.3    95.9
51  12/24    482.11   -13.1%     368.59   -16.9%     113.52    2.2%    23.5%     205.6   303.6
50  12/17    369.89   -23.4%     280.58   -26.8%      89.31  -10.1%    24.1%     360.7   635.3
49  12/10    322.48   -14.5%     243.85   -18.6%      78.63    1.5%    24.4%     624.8   535.6
48  12/3     229.49   -23.3%     173.97   -27.5%      55.52   -6.2%    24.2%     282.0   496.0
47  11/26    388.67   -12.4%     300.39   -16.5%      88.28    5.0%    22.7%     194.5   185.3
46  11/19    166.84   -14.3%     127.57   -18.0%      39.27    0.5%    23.5%      41.6   359.0
45  11/12    183.17     2.5%     128.95   -12.0%      54.22   68.3%    29.6%     422.9   251.3
44  11/5     167.53   -16.8%     117.59   -22.8%      49.94    2.0%    29.8%     335.6   414.9
43  10/29    147.15    11.2%      96.66   -11.3%      50.49  115.6%    33.6%     204.5   108.7
42  10/22    156.94     9.5%      95.94   -17.1%      61.00  120.8%    38.9%     370.0    56.0
41  10/15    152.92    -2.4%     106.50   -14.1%      46.42   42.2%    30.4%     343.3   233.0
40  10/8     183.79     9.3%     109.87    -9.4%      73.92   57.7%    40.2%     248.6   257.6

Q3 DEG      1742.79    -4.0%    1320.93   -14.7%     421.86   58.0%    24.2%
Q3 HMM      1667.09    -4.9%    1298.39   -13.9%     368.70   49.9%    22.1%    1806.3  1609.5										

39  10/1     152.58   -14.3%     109.97   -20.4%      42.61    7.1%    27.9%     352.1   382.7
38  9/24     153.60     5.0%     108.69   -12.5%      44.91  103.6%    29.2%     169.3   112.5
37  9/17     164.69    14.0%     107.37   -14.2%      57.32  197.2%    34.8%     190.8   165.2
36  9/10     128.84     0.0%     102.29   -10.5%      26.55   82.9%    20.6%     189.3    60.3
35  9/3      119.04    -9.5%     100.87   -13.7%      18.17   23.5%    15.3%      65.6    95.1
34  8/27     109.34   -13.1%      91.74   -16.6%      17.60   11.5%    16.1%      12.6    45.3
33  8/20     124.53    -4.4%     101.11   -12.8%      23.42   63.3%    18.8%     100.8    81.2
32  8/13     122.13    -1.8%      98.44    -9.5%      23.69   51.8%    19.4%     118.0   143.9
31  8/6      139.66     1.4%     111.78    -3.6%      27.88   27.9%    20.0%     189.8   133.5
30  7/30     108.78   -18.3%      89.06   -20.2%      19.72   -8.7%    18.1%      56.8   177.2
29  7/23     120.50    -1.9%      97.25    -9.4%      23.25   49.9%    19.3%      88.3    72.7
28  7/16     118.09    -4.8%      94.88   -13.5%      23.21   61.7%    19.7%     267.8    94.7
27  7/9      105.31   -16.7%      84.94   -22.7%      20.37   22.9%    19.3%       5.1    45.2										
		
Q2 DEG      1831      -15.0%    1434      -18.8%     397       9.4%    21.7%
Q2 HMM      1791.55   -12.2%    1402.94   -16.7%     388.61    9.1%    21.7%    2314.8  2422.0

26  7/2      127.11   -12.3%      96.32   -21.6%      30.79   39.4%    24.2%     102.3   181.4
25  6/25     123.25    -7.7%      98.18   -12.8%      25.07   20.1%    20.3%     205.4    85.8
24  6/18     149.89   -11.2%     114.68   -17.7%      35.21   19.5%    23.5%     208.2   142.8
23  6/11     130.81   -13.6%     103.23   -18.6%      27.58   12.3%    21.1%     305.0   152.6
22  6/4      118.16   -34.1%      96.17   -32.8%      21.99  -39.1%    18.6%      15.8   386.8
21  5/28     113.83   -16.6%      91.37   -22.9%      22.46   24.9%    19.7%     154.4    87.9
20  5/21     111.98   -15.2%      91.84   -18.9%      20.14    7.2%    18.0%      99.8   185.7
19  5/14     111.02   -23.6%      90.00   -26.8%      21.02   -6.2%    18.9%     155.6   113.6
18  5/7      122.05   -25.2%      99.74   -29.5%      22.31   -7.7%    18.3%     141.5   106.1
17  4/30     106.99   -40.6%      86.94   -39.6%      20.05  -44.5%    18.7%       0.0   120.5
16  4/23     217.30    -8.3%     171.47    -0.3%      45.83  -29.4%    21.1%     187.5   841.3
15  4/16     184.50    48.7%     134.40    24.8%      50.10  205.3%    27.2%     314.8     8.1
14  4/9      174.66    21.6%     128.60     5.9%      46.06  107.5%    26.5%     424.5     9.4
										
Q1 DEG      2068      -20.0%    1661      -25.0%     407      10.0%    19.7%		
Q1 HMM      2020.45   -23.2%    1626.20   -28.4%     394.25    9.4%    19.5%    2116.5  2857.2

13  4/2      192.11   -36.0%     144.16   -44.6%      47.95   20.1%    25.0%     300.9   461.1
12  3/26     135.54   -49.8%     110.21   -50.9%      25.33  -44.1%    18.7%     218.0   335.6
11  3/19     138.72   -46.5%     112.58   -49.6%      26.14  -27.1%    18.8%     154.2   534.3
10  3/12     146.96   -24.4%     116.11   -30.8%      30.85   16.5%    21.0%     177.0   247.2
9   3/5      174.59    -7.2%     132.93   -15.4%      41.66   34.1%    23.9%     112.3   258.8
8   2/26     160.96     4.5%     130.35    -2.5%      30.61   50.7%    19.0%     258.0    74.9
7   2/19     172.68    -8.1%     143.99   -12.7%      28.69   25.0%    16.6%      86.2    80.1
6   2/12     172.00   -19.4%     145.34   -23.1%      26.66    8.9%    15.5%     224.0   211.0
5   2/5      158.26   -16.7%     131.08   -20.8%      27.18   11.1%    17.2%      23.0   114.6
4   1/29     151.21   -14.6%     122.05   -20.9%      29.16   27.6%    19.3%     201.2   151.6
3   1/22     131.62   -16.3%     107.98   -21.0%      23.64   14.8%    18.0%      60.7    61.0
2   1/15     135.49   -17.3%     108.51   -23.9%      26.98   27.0%    19.9%     143.3   137.8
1   1/8      150.31   -14.1%     120.91   -19.5%      29.40   18.6%    19.6%     157.7   189.2

OD = optical disc (DVD + Blu-ray)
YoY = year over year percentage change
TBO = total box office
BD = Blu-ray

**bruceames** · 12-18-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceames

Based on estimated Men in Black sales and week 2 attrition, it looks like TDK Rises sold about 3.5-4 million copies on Blu-ray plus another 800k or so in the trilogy SKU. So it will be a record week, I'll guess between $140-$150 million.

Whether that's enough to beat out DVD for the first time remains to be seen, but I think DVD will do better than that, perhaps $180 million or so.

Once again my prediction is way off, so I'm gonna quit while I'm still ahead.

I figured with the biggest December release in four years, coupled with the release of Finding Nemo, that sales would be a lot more. But it wasn't even a record week.

JerryDandridge · 12-21-2012, 02:56 PM

I thought it was interesting that TDKR week bested Avengers week by 22M , even though Avengers grossed 180M more at the box office, since it didn't appear that MIB3 or Nemo contributed a lot to the TDKR weeks 110M sales.

HMM has the ratios for the week ending 12/16/12

Ted was at 100.00 TDKR was #2 at 54.68 and Bourne at 49.49 was #3.

Comedies don't usually sell huge on BD, so we'll have to wait to see if Bourne underperformed, or if Ted just sold really well.

Malanthius · 12-22-2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Don't pay the ransom . . . I escaped!

Hi everyone. Just a quick hello and a chance to wish everyone here at HDF a Happy Holidays.

Talk to you next year.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Lee.

**bruceames** · 12-25-2012, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryDandridge

I thought it was interesting that TDKR week bested Avengers week by 22M , even though Avengers grossed 180M more at the box office, since it didn't appear that MIB3 or Nemo contributed a lot to the TDKR weeks 110M sales.

HMM has the ratios for the week ending 12/16/12

Ted was at 100.00 TDKR was #2 at 54.68 and Bourne at 49.49 was #3.

Comedies don't usually sell huge on BD, so we'll have to wait to see if Bourne underperformed, or if Ted just sold really well.

You can't really compare weeks from September to those in December, since December weeks will have a large percentage Christmas-related sales. If Avengers and TDKR release dates were exchanged, then Avengers week probably would have beaten TDKR by a like amount. Who knows which title sold more, but my guess is that Avengers did, although it's probably close.

Looks like Ted did pretty well, obviously very good for a comedy. Not sure if Bourne underperformed, as you really can't compare the selling strength of that movie to those released earlier that were simply better movies and they also had Matt Damon in them.

**bruceames** · 12-25-2012, 05:42 PM

Updated thru week ending 12/15/12
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)

Code:

Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2012 TBO2011
2012 HMM    7524.06    -6.1%    5523.11   -10.3%    2000.85    7.9%    26.6%    9865.2  9709.1										
							

Q4 HMM      2257.29    -9.0%    1563.69   -12.6%     693.59    0.6%    30.7%    3026.5  3443.9

50  12/15    348.17    -5.8%     238.15   -15.1%     110.01   23.3%    31.6%     492.9   360.7
49  12/8     303.97    -6.1%     193.44   -21.0%     110.53   40.3%    36.4%     567.3   624.8
48  12/1     217.83    -5.3%     152.95   -12.4%      64.88   16.9%    29.8%     336.6   282.0
47  11/24    388.81    -0.3%     278.21    -7.6%     110.60   24.6%    28.4%      84.4   194.5
46  11/17    169.81     1.0%     115.01   -10.6%      54.79   38.5%    32.3%     326.0    41.6
45  11/10    128.76   -29.6%      93.33   -27.9%      35.43  -33.8%    27.5%     309.7   422.9
44  11/3     126.70   -25.0%      96.30   -18.9%      30.39  -39.4%    24.0%      93.1   335.6
43  10/27    149.05     0.9%     109.23    12.7%      39.82  -21.6%    26.7%     227.0   204.5
42  10/20    139.08   -12.3%      98.69     1.8%      40.40  -34.4%    29.0%     311.3   370.0
41  10/13    137.69   -11.0%      91.68   -14.8%      46.02   -2.3%    33.4%     181.4   343.3
40  10/6     147.42   -20.5%      96.70   -12.5%      50.72  -32.2%    34.4%      96.8   264.0                               
			
Q3 DEG      1672.54    -4.0%    1195.84    -9.5%     476.70   13.0%    28.5%  (EST)187.1    10.1%(share)
Q3 HMM      1624.71    -3.7%    1199.77    -8.6%     424.65   13.3%    26.1%    2147.2  1806.5

39  9/29     198.99    28.7%     110.98     0.1%      88.01  101.1%    44.2%     624.6   352.1
38  9/22     118.97   -26.2%      89.54   -20.5%      28.63  -39.8%    24.2%     116.0   169.3
37  9/15     134.97   -18.9%     100.75    -6.9%      34.22  -41.1%    25.4%     208.4   190.8
36  9/8      118.56    -8.8%      92.98    -9.9%      25.58   -4.5%    21.6%      47.6   189.3
35  9/1      144.44    20.3%     107.25     5.3%      37.19  103.6%    25.7%     252.7    65.6
34  8/25     143.76    31.4%     105.81    15.3%      37.95  115.6%    26.4%     105.3    12.6
33  8/18     147.22    17.3%     108.08     5.7%      39.64   67.7%    26.8%     411.4   100.8
32  8/11     114.70    -7.0%      85.79   -13.8%      28.91   21.3%    25.2%     216.1   118.2
31  8/4       93.41   -33.4%      75.78   -32.4%      17.63  -37.3%    18.9%       0.6   189.8
30  7/28      94.17   -14.4%      74.35   -17.6%      19.82    0.4%    21.0%      18.5    56.8
29  7/21     103.79   -14.7%      80.67   -18.0%      23.12   -0.9%    22.3%      87.8    88.3
28  7/14     104.61   -12.5%      82.94   -13.7%      21.67   -7.4%    20.7%      57.9   267.8
27  7/7      107.12     0.7%      84.85    -1.2%      22.28    8.6%    20.8%       0.3     5.1

Q2 DEG      1674.15    -7.1%    1263.83   -10.1%     410.32    3.4%    24.5%
Q2 HMM      1631.18    -9.9%    1227.87   -13.3%     403.51    2.5%    24.7%    2296.8  2322.3

26  6/30     122.48    -3.7%      91.23    -5.2%      31.25    0.9%    25.5%     342.2   102.3
25  6/23     114.86    -7.7%      87.39   -11.5%      27.47    6.8%    23.9%      97.5   205.4
24  6/16     160.13     5.6%     113.84    -1.9%      46.29   30.2%    28.9%     275.1   208.2
23  6/9      151.52    14.4%     105.51     1.2%      45.61   61.4%    30.2%     370.6   305.0
22  6/2      111.57    -6.5%      85.76   -11.7%      25.81   16.4%    23.1%      36.1    15.8
21  5/26     109.16    -5.2%      82.48   -10.8%      26.88   17.7%    24.6%     179.2   154.4
20  5/19     109.04    -3.6%      82.49   -11.1%      26.55   30.7%    24.3%     200.0    99.9
19  5/12     121.91     8.4%      92.63     1.6%      29.28   37.8%    24.0%     187.4   155.6
18  5/5      107.56   -11.5%      84.66   -14.4%      22.90    1.5%    21.3%     104.9   148.6
17  4/28     103.68    -4.1%      78.66   -10.5%      25.02   23.5%    24.1%      67.6     0.0
16  4/21     109.99   -50.1%      81.31   -53.3%      28.68  -38.1%    26.1%     231.7   184.9
15  4/14     107.78   -42.5%      85.63   -37.4%      22.15  -56.2%    20.6%      51.3   314.8
14  4/7      201.90    13.9%     156.28    20.0%      45.62   -3.0%    22.6%     153.2   427.4

Q1 DEG      2060.00    -0.4%    1559.39    -6.1%     500.61   23.0%    24.3%
Q1 HMM      2010.88    -1.2%    1531.78    -6.6%     479.10   20.9%    23.8%    2394.7  2136.4

13  3/31     155.29   -19.9%     120.32   -17.4%      34.98  -27.6%    22.5%     168.6   319.2
12  3/24     148.56     8.5%     108.20    -2.8%      40.36   57.9%    27.2%     353.9   219.4
11  3/17     146.48     4.6%     112.13    -1.4%      34.34   30.2%    23.4%     276.1   154.2
10  3/10     165.27     9.5%     123.11     2.7%      42.16   35.7%    25.5%     216.0   177.1
9   3/3      150.39   -14.0%     115.29   -13.4%      35.10  -15.7%    23.3%      67.0   112.3
8   2/25     158.98    -2.2%     122.04    -7.3%      36.94   19.4%    23.2%     272.1   258.0
7   2/18     207.15    18.9%     160.38    10.4%      46.77   61.7%    22.6%      16.4    86.2
6   2/11     205.54    19.4%     151.09     3.1%      54.45  104.2%    26.5%     316.5   224.0
5   2/4      144.90    -8.6%     110.25   -16.0%      34.65   27.1%    23.9%     118.5    23.0
4   1/28     131.95   -13.6%      98.40   -20.2%      33.55   14.2%    25.4%     226.3   201.2
3   1/21     129.39    -2.4%     103.53    -4.9%      25.86    8.9%    20.0%     112.7    60.7
2   1/14     128.65    -5.1%     100.16    -7.7%      28.49    5.6%    22.1%     143.4   116.2
1   1/7      138.33    -8.0%     106.88   -11.6%      31.45    7.0%    22.7%     157.7   134.3

2011 DEG    8951.80   -13.2%    6851.80   -19.5%    2150.00   19.4%    24.0%    
2011 HMM    8604.20   -13.9%    6608.28   -20.3%    1995.92   17.7%    23.2%    9936.0 10820.9																			

Q4 DEG      3338.95   -11.0%    2464.81   -16.5%     924.14   15.5%    27.7%
Q4 HMM      3125.11   -12.4%    2280.75   -19.5%     844.36   15.1%    27.0%    3698.4  3932.2

52  12/31    174.13   -25.6%     130.29   -28.7%      43.84  -14.7%    25.2%      64.3    95.9
51  12/24    482.11   -13.1%     368.59   -16.9%     113.52    2.2%    23.5%     205.6   303.6
50  12/17    369.89   -23.4%     280.58   -26.8%      89.31  -10.1%    24.1%     360.7   635.3
49  12/10    322.48   -14.5%     243.85   -18.6%      78.63    1.5%    24.4%     624.8   535.6
48  12/3     229.49   -23.3%     173.97   -27.5%      55.52   -6.2%    24.2%     282.0   496.0
47  11/26    388.67   -12.4%     300.39   -16.5%      88.28    5.0%    22.7%     194.5   185.3
46  11/19    166.84   -14.3%     127.57   -18.0%      39.27    0.5%    23.5%      41.6   359.0
45  11/12    183.17     2.5%     128.95   -12.0%      54.22   68.3%    29.6%     422.9   251.3
44  11/5     167.53   -16.8%     117.59   -22.8%      49.94    2.0%    29.8%     335.6   414.9
43  10/29    147.15    11.2%      96.66   -11.3%      50.49  115.6%    33.6%     204.5   108.7
42  10/22    156.94     9.5%      95.94   -17.1%      61.00  120.8%    38.9%     370.0    56.0
41  10/15    152.92    -2.4%     106.50   -14.1%      46.42   42.2%    30.4%     343.3   233.0
40  10/8     183.79     9.3%     109.87    -9.4%      73.92   57.7%    40.2%     248.6   257.6

Q3 DEG      1742.79    -4.0%    1320.93   -14.7%     421.86   58.0%    24.2%
Q3 HMM      1667.09    -4.9%    1298.39   -13.9%     368.70   49.9%    22.1%    1806.3  1609.5										

39  10/1     152.58   -14.3%     109.97   -20.4%      42.61    7.1%    27.9%     352.1   382.7
38  9/24     153.60     5.0%     108.69   -12.5%      44.91  103.6%    29.2%     169.3   112.5
37  9/17     164.69    14.0%     107.37   -14.2%      57.32  197.2%    34.8%     190.8   165.2
36  9/10     128.84     0.0%     102.29   -10.5%      26.55   82.9%    20.6%     189.3    60.3
35  9/3      119.04    -9.5%     100.87   -13.7%      18.17   23.5%    15.3%      65.6    95.1
34  8/27     109.34   -13.1%      91.74   -16.6%      17.60   11.5%    16.1%      12.6    45.3
33  8/20     124.53    -4.4%     101.11   -12.8%      23.42   63.3%    18.8%     100.8    81.2
32  8/13     122.13    -1.8%      98.44    -9.5%      23.69   51.8%    19.4%     118.0   143.9
31  8/6      139.66     1.4%     111.78    -3.6%      27.88   27.9%    20.0%     189.8   133.5
30  7/30     108.78   -18.3%      89.06   -20.2%      19.72   -8.7%    18.1%      56.8   177.2
29  7/23     120.50    -1.9%      97.25    -9.4%      23.25   49.9%    19.3%      88.3    72.7
28  7/16     118.09    -4.8%      94.88   -13.5%      23.21   61.7%    19.7%     267.8    94.7
27  7/9      105.31   -16.7%      84.94   -22.7%      20.37   22.9%    19.3%       5.1    45.2										
		
Q2 DEG      1831      -15.0%    1434      -18.8%     397       9.4%    21.7%
Q2 HMM      1791.55   -12.2%    1402.94   -16.7%     388.61    9.1%    21.7%    2314.8  2422.0

26  7/2      127.11   -12.3%      96.32   -21.6%      30.79   39.4%    24.2%     102.3   181.4
25  6/25     123.25    -7.7%      98.18   -12.8%      25.07   20.1%    20.3%     205.4    85.8
24  6/18     149.89   -11.2%     114.68   -17.7%      35.21   19.5%    23.5%     208.2   142.8
23  6/11     130.81   -13.6%     103.23   -18.6%      27.58   12.3%    21.1%     305.0   152.6
22  6/4      118.16   -34.1%      96.17   -32.8%      21.99  -39.1%    18.6%      15.8   386.8
21  5/28     113.83   -16.6%      91.37   -22.9%      22.46   24.9%    19.7%     154.4    87.9
20  5/21     111.98   -15.2%      91.84   -18.9%      20.14    7.2%    18.0%      99.8   185.7
19  5/14     111.02   -23.6%      90.00   -26.8%      21.02   -6.2%    18.9%     155.6   113.6
18  5/7      122.05   -25.2%      99.74   -29.5%      22.31   -7.7%    18.3%     141.5   106.1
17  4/30     106.99   -40.6%      86.94   -39.6%      20.05  -44.5%    18.7%       0.0   120.5
16  4/23     217.30    -8.3%     171.47    -0.3%      45.83  -29.4%    21.1%     187.5   841.3
15  4/16     184.50    48.7%     134.40    24.8%      50.10  205.3%    27.2%     314.8     8.1
14  4/9      174.66    21.6%     128.60     5.9%      46.06  107.5%    26.5%     424.5     9.4
										
Q1 DEG      2068      -20.0%    1661      -25.0%     407      10.0%    19.7%		
Q1 HMM      2020.45   -23.2%    1626.20   -28.4%     394.25    9.4%    19.5%    2116.5  2857.2

13  4/2      192.11   -36.0%     144.16   -44.6%      47.95   20.1%    25.0%     300.9   461.1
12  3/26     135.54   -49.8%     110.21   -50.9%      25.33  -44.1%    18.7%     218.0   335.6
11  3/19     138.72   -46.5%     112.58   -49.6%      26.14  -27.1%    18.8%     154.2   534.3
10  3/12     146.96   -24.4%     116.11   -30.8%      30.85   16.5%    21.0%     177.0   247.2
9   3/5      174.59    -7.2%     132.93   -15.4%      41.66   34.1%    23.9%     112.3   258.8
8   2/26     160.96     4.5%     130.35    -2.5%      30.61   50.7%    19.0%     258.0    74.9
7   2/19     172.68    -8.1%     143.99   -12.7%      28.69   25.0%    16.6%      86.2    80.1
6   2/12     172.00   -19.4%     145.34   -23.1%      26.66    8.9%    15.5%     224.0   211.0
5   2/5      158.26   -16.7%     131.08   -20.8%      27.18   11.1%    17.2%      23.0   114.6
4   1/29     151.21   -14.6%     122.05   -20.9%      29.16   27.6%    19.3%     201.2   151.6
3   1/22     131.62   -16.3%     107.98   -21.0%      23.64   14.8%    18.0%      60.7    61.0
2   1/15     135.49   -17.3%     108.51   -23.9%      26.98   27.0%    19.9%     143.3   137.8
1   1/8      150.31   -14.1%     120.91   -19.5%      29.40   18.6%    19.6%     157.7   189.2

OD = optical disc (DVD + Blu-ray)
YoY = year over year percentage change
TBO = total box office
BD = Blu-ray

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/mar...k-ended-121512

**bruceames** · 12-26-2012, 11:00 AM

Blu-ray is doing a little better than I had expected the last few weeks (starting with Black Friday), and now stands at 7.9% YoY. With only 2 weeks left in the year it will probably remain close to that percentage, as those weeks are very comparable to those of last year ($110 million + $43 million). For the quarter it is finally in positive growth mode at 0.6%.

7.9% is still a far cry from the 22% growth of 2011 and probably less than what anyone had predicted. It should be interesting to see if growth is positive next year.

Since the DEG YoY for Blu-ray has been correlating very well with the HMM weekly totals, it looks like it'll report around 8% YoY for the entire year.

DVD has done much better this year, declining only about 10% vs. 20% for last year. That more than anything has helped OD's YoY decline go from 13% last year, to only around 6% this year. Of course, the box office power YoY is improved this year over last year and is partly responible for the slow down in OD declines.

morriscroy · 12-27-2012, 12:11 PM

How much of this can be attributed to OD prices tumbling to (almost) bottom of the barrel prices?

Been noticing so many $5 (or less) blurays, over the last month or so. A lot more bargain bin titles than even a year ago.

Though I wonder at what price point, do blurays stop being profitable altogether. I can't imagine those $1 Mill Creek blurays being profitable at all.

12-26-2012, 11:00 AM	#4274
bruceames Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 15,368	Blu-ray is doing a little better than I had expected the last few weeks (starting with Black Friday), and now stands at 7.9% YoY. With only 2 weeks left in the year it will probably remain close to that percentage, as those weeks are very comparable to those of last year ($110 million + $43 million). For the quarter it is finally in positive growth mode at 0.6%. 7.9% is still a far cry from the 22% growth of 2011 and probably less than what anyone had predicted. It should be interesting to see if growth is positive next year. Since the DEG YoY for Blu-ray has been correlating very well with the HMM weekly totals, it looks like it'll report around 8% YoY for the entire year. DVD has done much better this year, declining only about 10% vs. 20% for last year. That more than anything has helped OD's YoY decline go from 13% last year, to only around 6% this year. Of course, the box office power YoY is improved this year over last year and is partly responible for the slow down in OD declines. __________________ RIP Kosty.

12-18-2012, 12:43 PM	#4265
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Don't pay the ransom . . . I escaped! Hi everyone. Just a quick hello and a chance to wish everyone here at HDF a Happy Holidays. Talk to you next year.

12-21-2012, 02:56 PM	#4270
JerryDandridge Welcome to Fright Night Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 43	I thought it was interesting that TDKR week bested Avengers week by 22M , even though Avengers grossed 180M more at the box office, since it didn't appear that MIB3 or Nemo contributed a lot to the TDKR weeks 110M sales. HMM has the ratios for the week ending 12/16/12 Ted was at 100.00 TDKR was #2 at 54.68 and Bourne at 49.49 was #3. Comedies don't usually sell huge on BD, so we'll have to wait to see if Bourne underperformed, or if Ted just sold really well.

12-27-2012, 12:11 PM	#4275
morriscroy High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 977	How much of this can be attributed to OD prices tumbling to (almost) bottom of the barrel prices? Been noticing so many $5 (or less) blurays, over the last month or so. A lot more bargain bin titles than even a year ago. Though I wonder at what price point, do blurays stop being profitable altogether. I can't imagine those $1 Mill Creek blurays being profitable at all.