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Old 10-28-2007, 10:52 PM   #31
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Not true. You don't need an "HD" antenna. You just need an antenna capable of delivering a quiet enough signal to avoid losing data. Get close enough to the broadcast antenna and strip of wire will work. My outside antenna was installed in 1982 before HD or digital television even existed. I get excellent HD from the networks on antenna. I wasn't aware something called an "HD" antenna even existed.
I have a receiver supplied through Comcast which provides me minimal access to OTA broadcasts (Basic Package). If I connect an antenna will it cause interference issues? What is the best option for the hook-up connection? Thanks
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:51 AM   #32
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:42 AM   #33
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I have a question about myth 9. Here is the myth so you don't have to search for it.

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All 1080p HDTVs accept 1080p input signals.
Fact: There are a few “1080p” HDTVs out there that have 1920 x 1080 pixels and can display 1080i television signals, but can’t accept an external 1080p signal from a scaling DVD player or HD-DVD and Blu-ray players. Always check the manufacturer’s specifications for signal compatibility

I have one of these tv's I have come to find out the hard way. It has the 1920 X 1080 resolution but will not accept 1080P signals. If this is the case, is the picture I'm getting truly 1080P. Toshiba says it is. I will post their reply on here following this.

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The process of displaying a 1080i signal as 1080p is called deinterlacing. This does not include any 720p signals as a 720p signal has already been deinterlaced and does not need to be done again. A 720p signal would be upconverted from 720 lines to 1080 lines within the TV. The deinterlaced frame rate would not change.



1080i means 1080 horizontal lines of resolution being rendered on the screen by rastering the odd lines first and then the even lines. At this rate the signal would produce 30 pictures per second.



1080p means 1080 horizontal lines of resolution being rendered on the screen in order from 1- 1080. At this rate the display will produce 60 pictures per second.



Being that ALL movies and TV broadcasts are filmed at only 24 frames per second, any signal whether it is being deinterlaced by the TV or is being sent to a TV at 1080p/60 HAS to be deinterlaced at some point no matter what. What this means is that even TVs that will accept an incoming 1080p/60 signal are still displaying the exact same information. The only difference in that situation is that the signal was deinterlaced BEFORE it got to the TV instead of being deinterlaced by the TV.


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Old 06-18-2008, 10:09 AM   #34
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I have a question about myth 9. Here is the myth so you don't have to search for it.

Myth #9
All 1080p HDTVs accept 1080p input signals.
Fact: There are a few “1080p” HDTVs out there that have 1920 x 1080 pixels and can display 1080i television signals, but can’t accept an external 1080p signal from a scaling DVD player or HD-DVD and Blu-ray players. Always check the manufacturer’s specifications for signal compatibility

I have one of these tv's I have come to find out the hard way. It has the 1920 X 1080 resolution but will not accept 1080P signals. If this is the case, is the picture I'm getting truly 1080P. Toshiba says it is. I will post their reply on here following this.

Toshiba's response

The process of displaying a 1080i signal as 1080p is called deinterlacing. This does not include any 720p signals as a 720p signal has already been deinterlaced and does not need to be done again. A 720p signal would be upconverted from 720 lines to 1080 lines within the TV. The deinterlaced frame rate would not change.



1080i means 1080 horizontal lines of resolution being rendered on the screen by rastering the odd lines first and then the even lines. At this rate the signal would produce 30 pictures per second.



1080p means 1080 horizontal lines of resolution being rendered on the screen in order from 1- 1080. At this rate the display will produce 60 pictures per second.



Being that ALL movies and TV broadcasts are filmed at only 24 frames per second, any signal whether it is being deinterlaced by the TV or is being sent to a TV at 1080p/60 HAS to be deinterlaced at some point no matter what. What this means is that even TVs that will accept an incoming 1080p/60 signal are still displaying the exact same information. The only difference in that situation is that the signal was deinterlaced BEFORE it got to the TV instead of being deinterlaced by the TV.


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Old 06-18-2008, 03:08 PM   #35
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So you are saying what they replied is correct? Thanx for the help. I think I am going to go read on these topics some more so I can educate myself.
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Myth #2 may be correct if you look at Hitachi and only Hitachi as their aspect ratios and lines of resolution are not industry standard. (rectangular pixels instead of square, particularly in their plasma TV's).
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Cool this very helpful when buying a tv..... deciding between 1080p and 720p
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:44 PM   #38
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So you are saying what they replied is correct? Thanx for the help. I think I am going to go read on these topics some more so I can educate myself.
Yes it is correct, although depending on when you bought the TV some of the early models didn't deinterlace the signal very well.

But, I don't believe it was any of the Toshiba HDTVs that had this problem.

I do remember when this cropped up a while back and we had to educate the forum members and lurkers to the truth of the matter, there were quite a few buyers that were going ballistic all over the web for no reason over what they perceived as being a major problem.

It quickly died down as people became more educated on how TVs handle signals and display them.

The truth was some of the early 1080p HDTV weren't designed to accept a 1080p signal becasue at the time there were none available, until HD DVD and blu-?ray arrived on the market so they were intially designed to deinterlace the top signals then available and display them in 1080p format on their screens.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:27 PM   #39
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Myth #1
You need a cable or satellite TV subscription to watch HDTV programs.
Fact: If you live in or near a city, it’s likely there are several over-the-air local TV stations broadcasting HDTV programs, which you can watch for free. ABC, Fox, NBC, CBS, PBS and CW networks all offer HDTV programming (local HD listings are available at antennaweb.org). You can receive them with the tuner in your HDTV set or an external DTV set-top receiver, but you need an external HD antenna.

Myth #2
You can buy a flat-panel HDTV with 1080i resolution.
Fact: Much of the confusion on this one comes from the difference between broadcast formats and display resolution. Some networks broadcast using a 1080-line “interlaced” (refresh every other line every other frame) signal, while others broadcast a 720-line “progressive” (refresh every line every frame) signal. But all flat-panel TVs display video progressively, regardless of the source signal. The way to assess the resolution of a plasma or LCD set is to check its total pixel count (e.g., 1280 x 768, 1920 x 1080, etc.).

Myth #3
HD video can’t be recorded to regular DVDs.
Fact: Yes it can. New blue-laser discs such as Blu-ray and HD-DVD have high capacities, up to 50GB, but conventional red-laser DVDs can hold hi-def, too. Recording capacity is about 30 minutes for an HD program with the MPEG-2 digital compression system in widespread use today. But efficient codecs such as MPEG-4 and Windows Media can fit entire HD movies onto conventional DVDs that play back on computers and some DVD players.

Myth #4
A 1080p TV is always better than a 720p TV.
Fact: A 1080p set (one with at least 1920 x 1080 pixels) does have higher resolution than a 720p (at least 1920 x 780) set. But the importance of those extra pixels depends on the size of your TV and the distance you are away from it. If you are sitting more than 8 ft. from a 42-in. HDTV or more than 10 ft. from a 50-in. set, you won’t notice the difference. If you mostly watch standard-def TV and DVDs, an expensive 1080p set makes no sense — a 720p set will work fine.

Myth #5
An HDTV set automatically converts all programs it receives to HDTV.
Fact: HDTVs can stretch a standard definition (SDTV) image to fit their screens, but they can’t magically add resolution. Since SDTV has only 720 x 480 pixels, hi-def TVs tend to magnify the fuzziness of standard-def video — sometimes making it look worse than it would on a non-HDTV set.

Myth #6
All flat-panel televisions are high-definition.
Fact: To make sure you get HD resolution, you need to do pixel math. Many 42-in. plasma TVs are sold with 1024 x 768 pixels. But the two high-definition broadcast standards are 1280 x 720 (720p) and 1920 x 1080 (1080i). So 1024 x 768 plasmas give you only 85 percent and 38 percent of the pixels, respectively.

Myth #7
To get the best-quality HD, you need expensive cables.
Fact: Not true. If the cables running from your DVD player or cable box aren’t particularly long, you should be fine with inexpensive video cables. The extra shielding in expensive cables that prevents interference in analog equipment won’t improve the image of digital video through HDMI or DVI cables — the signal either comes through or it doesn’t. And the savings can be huge: 6-ft. HDMI cables range from $20 to $160.

Myth #8
HDTV means consistent picture quality.
Fact: Definitely not true. To transmit HDTV programs, cable system operators, satellite companies and over-the-air broadcasters compress their signals. And some shows are compressed more than others. To fit more programming into existing bandwidth, broadcasters often take a channel designed for one HD program and squeeze multiple SDTV and HDTV programs into it. That can lead to squirmy backgrounds and other compression “artifacts.” Unfortunately, there’s not much that average viewers can do about this — except to complain to their cable or satellite providers.

Myth #9
All 1080p HDTVs accept 1080p input signals.
Fact: There are a few “1080p” HDTVs out there that have 1920 x 1080 pixels and can display 1080i television signals, but can’t accept an external 1080p signal from a scaling DVD player or HD-DVD and Blu-ray players. Always check the manufacturer’s specifications for signal compatibility.

Myth #10
Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs always offer the highest possible resolution.
Fact: That depends on how the discs were mastered from the original movie. Some discs are transferred from an early-generation digital copy, while others are scanned from a later-generation film print of poorer quality. There’s no labeling on the Blu-ray or HD-DVD packaging to give customers a quantitative measure of relative video quality, but it’s worth scanning reviews on enthusiast Web sites.

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Thanks so much AH602, ya made alot of things more clear to me about HD.
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is it true that if you try to play a bootleg, once hdtv goes into effect, that it may mess up your tv?
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