Tv Above Radiator

WACKY · 01-10-2007, 04:55 AM

I am soon going to be purchasing a flat-screen TV which will be mounted on a wall (above a radiator). The rad will have a cabinet covering it, but I want your advice on whether a plasma or LCD will survive better above a radiator, please.
I have narrowed my choice of TV down to 3 - panasonic th42px600, sony kdl40w2000, and philips 42pf9831d. I live in UK so these may seem a bit old to you guys in the States !, but if you have any idea which is the best of these, please feel free to comment.

Thks, Steve

Gurra · 01-10-2007, 01:21 PM

Bought a TV myself and was looking at almost exactly those 3 except had chosen 42pf9731d instead of 42pf9831d because of its higher native resolution.
Don't feel like buying any Sony products since the Sony BMG scandal so the Sony went out of the equation.
Only the Philips and the Sony have native 1920x1080 resolution so the Panasonic went out of the equation.
Then it turned out the 42pf9731d doesn't have the faster display (Philips call it Clear LCD) that the 37pf9731d has so went for the latter version in the end.
The Connectedplanet support also suits my setup and made the choice easier.
OK it doesn't support DMI 1.3 or 1080p but I won't use it for gaming and I don't imagine I will notice the difference when watching films.
Next purchase will probably be a Toshiba HDA1. The HDE1 and HDA2 don't have analogue 5.1 out and the X models are too expensive. I don't agree with region coding so won't go for Blu-Ray. Pity that Philips chose the format. After that, maybe a Philips DSR 9005 to get BBC-HD.
As for putting a TV over a Rad - the higher ambient temperature the shorter life. I wouldn't do it if it could be avoided.

d6500k · 01-10-2007, 04:28 PM

Place a thermometer where the display will be. Read the temperature when the radiator is at its warmest.

Find the operating ranges of the displays you are looking at. If you're not going to be exceeding the high end of the operation limit, you are GTG. Now with that being said....

Quote:

the higher ambient temperature the shorter life

is a true statement. Personally, I'd look for a better place to put the display where it will not be subjected to extreme hot and cold variances.

As for the LCD vs. Plasma, LCD's tend to run cooler even with thair high temp lamps, Therefore they might be a better choice if you are going to place one over a major heating source.

Good Viewing,

Doug k

Gurra · 01-11-2007, 03:59 AM

If you are really paranoid about it you could add something like a remote sensor radiator thermostat, and place the remote sensor where it senses heat from the TV and allows the stat to turn down the radiator appropriately.
Look at something like http://www.danfoss-randall.co.uk/Sit...s/vd51m402.pdf for water based heating systems.
Very good advice from d6500k otherwise. From what I can remember out of the data sheets, the Panasonic Plasma consumes roughly a third more to double the power of the Philips LCD.

WACKY · 01-11-2007, 05:23 AM

Thanks guys. With the cover on the radiator the heat will be directed out horizontally, then vertically, rather than just vertically if it did not have the cover on it. I hope this will do less damage to the TV. Any more comments on the TV choice ?

paulc · 01-11-2007, 12:25 PM

I understand that it may be true you have no choice for location. I recall a gizmo that was intended for fireplaces which essentially had a fan blowing into a tube with the air moving out many holes in the tube. So I'm thinking of such a tube running the length and behind the radiator. The theory being that you are moving the air right above it out into the room. You get "better" heat AND have more cool air in the mix hitting the underside of the TV as "most" the heated air rising goes out into the room, not up to the ceiling.

01-10-2007, 04:55 AM	#1
WACKY What is HD? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	Tv Above Radiator I am soon going to be purchasing a flat-screen TV which will be mounted on a wall (above a radiator). The rad will have a cabinet covering it, but I want your advice on whether a plasma or LCD will survive better above a radiator, please. I have narrowed my choice of TV down to 3 - panasonic th42px600, sony kdl40w2000, and philips 42pf9831d. I live in UK so these may seem a bit old to you guys in the States !, but if you have any idea which is the best of these, please feel free to comment. Thks, Steve

01-10-2007, 01:21 PM	#2
Gurra What is HD? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Tv Above Radiator Bought a TV myself and was looking at almost exactly those 3 except had chosen 42pf9731d instead of 42pf9831d because of its higher native resolution. Don't feel like buying any Sony products since the Sony BMG scandal so the Sony went out of the equation. Only the Philips and the Sony have native 1920x1080 resolution so the Panasonic went out of the equation. Then it turned out the 42pf9731d doesn't have the faster display (Philips call it Clear LCD) that the 37pf9731d has so went for the latter version in the end. The Connectedplanet support also suits my setup and made the choice easier. OK it doesn't support DMI 1.3 or 1080p but I won't use it for gaming and I don't imagine I will notice the difference when watching films. Next purchase will probably be a Toshiba HDA1. The HDE1 and HDA2 don't have analogue 5.1 out and the X models are too expensive. I don't agree with region coding so won't go for Blu-Ray. Pity that Philips chose the format. After that, maybe a Philips DSR 9005 to get BBC-HD. As for putting a TV over a Rad - the higher ambient temperature the shorter life. I wouldn't do it if it could be avoided.

01-11-2007, 03:59 AM	#4
Gurra What is HD? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Tv Above Radiator If you are really paranoid about it you could add something like a remote sensor radiator thermostat, and place the remote sensor where it senses heat from the TV and allows the stat to turn down the radiator appropriately. Look at something like http://www.danfoss-randall.co.uk/Sit...s/vd51m402.pdf for water based heating systems. Very good advice from d6500k otherwise. From what I can remember out of the data sheets, the Panasonic Plasma consumes roughly a third more to double the power of the Philips LCD. Last edited by Gurra; 01-11-2007 at 04:07 AM.

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01-11-2007, 05:23 AM	#5
WACKY What is HD? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	Thanks guys. With the cover on the radiator the heat will be directed out horizontally, then vertically, rather than just vertically if it did not have the cover on it. I hope this will do less damage to the TV. Any more comments on the TV choice ?

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paulc Very Grizzled Vet of 1 yr Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 1,764	I understand that it may be true you have no choice for location. I recall a gizmo that was intended for fireplaces which essentially had a fan blowing into a tube with the air moving out many holes in the tube. So I'm thinking of such a tube running the length and behind the radiator. The theory being that you are moving the air right above it out into the room. You get "better" heat AND have more cool air in the mix hitting the underside of the TV as "most" the heated air rising goes out into the room, not up to the ceiling.