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Old 01-14-2017, 11:53 AM   #1
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I joined this forum 2 years ago thinking about cutting cable and going OTA. I ended up getting a great discount from Comcast and stayed. 3 months ago I negotiated another deal with them that I could live with. Last month I got a letter in the mail telling of across the board rate increases. This month I get my bill to find it is now $45.00 higher. I need to do this now and be done with it!

I am looking for suggestions for everything I will need. It is just my wife and myself. We have 4 TVs in the house that are used at different times. We almost exclusively watch the 3 main network stations, ABC, CBS, AND NBC. We also mainly watch our shows off DVR as we do not have a lot of time to watch TV and like to watch the shows we really like when we do have time. I am thinking outside antenna. Here is my TV fool link. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a41263211e28

Please help me along and teach me what I need to know to once and for all be out from under Comcasts thumb.
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Old 01-14-2017, 02:57 PM   #2
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Hummm...For some reason your TVfool report link is not working.

But I always suggest an outside TV antenna, what you need depends on your location, so once the TVfool report starts working (site may be down) we can give you a better idea on what to get.

Also you will need to buy a new DVR to record ATSC off air TV programs, here is a review on some.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...on-1424116425/
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:43 AM   #3
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LOL. Its happening all ready! I am getting all confused when looking at the OTA DVR. Talking about RUKU and other services you pay for or adding on a hard drive. Is there a DVR that I can buy that will record and still allow me to watch something that does not involve additional charges or equipment? I checked my TVFool and it is working for me.
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If your intent is to get a DVR with Comcast DVR type capabilities and no monthly fees, using a PC with Windows 7 media center and OTA tuners is the only system I am aware of. Tivo requires a monthly fee or a one time lifetime fee. There are some new systems coming on the market like Ruku and others, but none offer the versatility of using a Windows Media Center based system.

I would suggest reading through this thread for more in depth information: Redoing my whole home setup, and YOU are in charge! Prize for posters advice I use!
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:31 PM   #5
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LOL. Its happening all ready! I am getting all confused when looking at the OTA DVR. Talking about RUKU and other services you pay for or adding on a hard drive. Is there a DVR that I can buy that will record and still allow me to watch something that does not involve additional charges or equipment? I checked my TVFool and it is working for me.
The main TVfool site was down at the time, if your looking at a stand alone DVR without fee's then look at this one.

http://www.channelmaster.com/DVR_Plus_p/cm-7500gb16.htm

It has a dual ATSC tuner for off air, and you can add an optional USB WIFI for connection to online streaming services.

You can also add extra storage for longer recording time.
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Old 01-15-2017, 02:31 PM   #6
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Thanks Terry, that looks like it will do the trick. I have an old computer tower if that would help me down the road, also have wifi in the house. Now do we have an antenna suggestion?
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Well you have signals from all over the place, so pick a direction for the main channels you want an go with something that will work in the medium range VHF/UHF band.

Look through these antennas, but be sure you get one that will work on VHF as you have two stations in the VHF band. (WPCW and WQED)

http://www.solidsignal.com/cview_ant...ntennas&cea=MD
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The main TVfool site was down at the time, if your looking at a stand alone DVR without fee's then look at this one.

http://www.channelmaster.com/DVR_Plus_p/cm-7500gb16.htm

It has a dual ATSC tuner for off air, and you can add an optional USB WIFI for connection to online streaming services.

You can also add extra storage for longer recording time.]
With DVRs like the channelmaster you will need to have one at each TV. With media center you can have extenders at the other TV locations where all TVs share the same recordings. You mentioned you have 4 TVs, so a coax will be needed at each location as well for the CM DVRs.

Here is a review of the CM DVR: https://www.cnet.com/products/channel-master-dvr-plus/
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:57 PM   #9
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This new package is an app base. No extra hardware just your phone, laptop, iPad, tablet. You can steam from a Roku, Apple TV, firestick or smart Tv. for limited time it's only 35 bucks a month and will be grandfather when the offer expire. If you pay 3 months in advance they offer free Apple TV, Roku or firestick. Over 100 live channels, plus on demands.

I have been cable free for the last year sent att all there junk back. All I have bus is internet. I'm now very happy.

Btw what I pay for internet: $ 45 and I can always shop for better prices
DirectNow: $35. Once you have signed up it's $35 for life. Once the offer expire it will jump to $65.
This package with Comcast and att will normally cost around 65 and up.

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Old 01-22-2017, 07:12 AM   #10
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hey guys. Not ignoring you, just had some family medical problems come up that I am dealing with. This plan of mine is going to take a back seat for a while.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:04 PM   #11
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Hi BiXLL

Hope everything gets well for you and yours soon.

I cut the cable roughly 4 years ago (best thing I ever did), with Comcast. I did keep my internet. I glanced briefly at your antenna plot from TV Fool, and like what was mentioned above, it appears you have several options. I am not familiar with where Beaver Falls is, but if its like the rest of PA from what I have observed when driving from here in CT to Chicago, it is not very flat. An outdoor antenna is always best, but sometimes it is not really needed. I live in the Waterbury area of western CT and it is pretty hilly here. I also live in a building where an outdoor antenna is not an option. Long story short, I use an Amazon knockoff of a Mohu 50 square panel indoor antenna. It works really well, and the only extra thing I did was add an amplifier to boost some of the weaker stations. The picture looks great on my Panasonic TCP 55 ST60 plasma, better than when I was hooked up to cable.

I have a solution to your DVR problem, and it is what I use to watch what I want, whenever I want. It is called KODI. Kodi is an open source, safe, media center which one can use to watch all the content you would ever need. I installed KODI on my laptop, and use an HDMI cable to watch everything on my big screen plasma. When I discovered KODI, I felt like I had been a real jerk for paying Comcast all that money for all those years. Well, better late than never as my Comcast bill with only internet is nearly $200 cheaper a month than what is was, and besides saving money, as I have said, I can watch what I want, when I want (movies, tv shows, sports, you name it), and I do not have to worry about recording something on DVR. It is the ultimate on demand system. Don.t take my word for though, do your own research. If you have any questions, I will be as helpful as I can.


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I have a solution to your DVR problem, and it is what I use to watch what I want, whenever I want. It is called KODI. Kodi is an open source, safe, media center which one can use to watch all the content you would ever need. I installed KODI on my laptop, and use an HDMI cable to watch everything on my big screen plasma. When I discovered KODI, I felt like I had been a real jerk for paying Comcast all that money for all those years. Well, better late than never as my Comcast bill with only internet is nearly $200 cheaper a month than what is was, and besides saving money, as I have said, I can watch what I want, when I want (movies, tv shows, sports, you name it), and I do not have to worry about recording something on DVR. It is the ultimate on demand system. Don.t take my word for though, do your own research. If you have any questions, I will be as helpful as I can.


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Welcome to the forum Michael. What OTA tuner are you using? What plug-in did you go with for the OTA?
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:59 PM   #13
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Hi rbinck, thanks for the welcome !

The tuner on my TCP 55 ST60 works fine in conjunction with my antenna to receive local over the air content.

As for the plug in, or add on that I use to stream live television, if you are familiar with KODI, there are several, some for regular television broadcasts, some for live sports, etc. I do not want to unknowingly violate any forum rules (have not taken the time to read them yet, but I will), so for now I will not be more specific. If I find that I will not be violating any forum rules, I will freely share the add ons that I use.

I will say this for other readers though, an antenna for local television reception in combination with streaming content using KODI is, in my opinion all anyone would ever need for their visual entertainment/news source. For the sake of full disclosure, I will say that I have had Netflix and Amazon streaming services for several years, even before I cut the cable cord, and since I started using KODI, I hardly ever use them. Probably why I still have them both is that my son, who has Autism learned to use them and is comfortable doing so, both on the TV and on his Kindle, and it only averages less than $20 a month for the both of them combined.


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KODI is what the XBMC software is currently called. The XBMC software was developed as the Media Center software for the X-Box by Microsoft. Much of the core software was also used in Windows Media Center and the U-verse DVRs. AT&T actually used Microsoft to supply the U-verse software. The XBMC had different skins (user interface look) than the other variants and KODI still different still.

The issue that BiXLL could run into is the ability to record OTA programming. There are plugins for KODI that will allow the use of OTA tuners, but will require some work to install as does any of the plugins for KODI.

On the other hand the Windows Media Center (WMC) that comes in Windows 7 is already set up to use several different OTA tuners and is pretty simple to get a full function OTA DVR. So while you may not feel that you want to record OTA programming, those that do would need to have OTA tuner capability.

I actually have one of my WMCs set up with a menu item to switch to XBMC/KODI to gain access to some of the plugins available. Both can reside on the same PC.
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rbinck, you are right in what you say, but my feeling, and what I do is use KODI for on demand viewing. If one wants to build a visual library, then I can see where recording to a DVR might be needed. However if one is just looking to watch whatever viewing entertainment whenever they want, then KODI works seamlessly. As a side note, there are of course ways to record from KODI as well, though some view this as not legal. I've never had the need to attempt this, and if one were to do it, I see no practical difference between recording something from KODI or recording something to DVR as long as said recording is for personal at home use.
My mentioning of KODI was simply a way to give BiXill a way to watch what he wanted, when he wanted without having the extra step of recording to a DVR.


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