AVCHD editing software ?

Scoob · 03-29-2009, 12:56 AM

I actually bought Corel Movie Studio Pro x2 today from Amazon. When I start using it mid to late next week, I'll make sure and give a full report. I will say that the Pixela software that came with my Canon HF100 does serve some very basic purposes. I was able to send the video straight from my camera (hooked up via USB) to the program and burn a DVD-R in AVCHD format to play in my PS3. The video on the disc looked great without any degradation. Also the program gives you the option of burning the disc in AVCHD hi def or to traditional DVD resolution. We made a normal DVD and it looked quite good. We then tried to use the options on the Pixela program to edit AVCHD. It was a bit frustrating and cumbersome, the transitions were not just click and drag. We ended up just realizing what everybody else said....................just to buy an editing program. But I will keep the Pixela software on my PC as it is pretty easy to burn a DVD when in a hurry.

mobiushky · 03-30-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoob

I actually bought Corel Movie Studio Pro x2 today from Amazon. When I start using it mid to late next week, I'll make sure and give a full report. I will say that the Pixela software that came with my Canon HF100 does serve some very basic purposes. I was able to send the video straight from my camera (hooked up via USB) to the program and burn a DVD-R in AVCHD format to play in my PS3. The video on the disc looked great without any degradation. Also the program gives you the option of burning the disc in AVCHD hi def or to traditional DVD resolution. We made a normal DVD and it looked quite good. We then tried to use the options on the Pixela program to edit AVCHD. It was a bit frustrating and cumbersome, the transitions were not just click and drag. We ended up just realizing what everybody else said....................just to buy an editing program. But I will keep the Pixela software on my PC as it is pretty easy to burn a DVD when in a hurry.

Good plan. One of the benefits of the Sony cameras is the Picture Motion Browser software the comes with it. It's got some really cool features I haven't seen anywhere else. Basically use it as an organizing program to import and keep videos and pictures organized. It imports the files and then analyzes them for various things. One is face recognition. So when it's done, it has a list of all the faces found in the video or picture. You can then click on an icon of the face and it will highlight all the files that have that same face. So if you want to find videos of one child quick it will allow you to pick the face and it will find all the files for you.

It also has a option called Movie tracker. This allows you to process your video into a single image file. So if you do a pan across something, it will process the pan into a panoramic still image of the entire video. It's very cool.

Scoob · 04-06-2009, 01:09 PM

Well after a week of use I have a few impressions. First, when using it for editing, you need to enable to Smart Proxy feature. It makes the editing much quicker and manageable. It creates temp lower res files for editing which makes your computer faster and more responsive when reviewing. Yet when burning the entire project onto a disc or sharing it, it uses the original hi res files. Also, I like the ability the software has to convert AVCHD files to Mpeg2, Mpeg4, AVI, Mov, mpg or several other formats for sharing on Youtube, Vimeo or for watching on PC.

mshulman · 04-15-2009, 02:49 PM

For anyone looking for a great package for editing and authoring, I'd highly recommend Adobe Premiere Pro CS4. http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/

It comes with Adobe Encore CS4 which is for authoring DVD's and Blu-ray. Having been using Premiere for the last 10 years or so and having been using CS4 with AVCHD for a few weeks, I can say it works very well. I've had a few issues with the program crashing on me, but my system needs to some cleanup, so I've written the crashes off as my system being an issue.

Premiere is excellent for editing and has a ton of features. I probably don't even make use of half of them. Encore is the same way. Just last night I put together my first blu-ray disc. I even added multiple audio tracks and a pop-up menu. Its very cool!

The only downside to it is that its an expensive program. If you are in school or a teacher, then take advantage of being able to buy an academic version. I did 10 years ago and have been upgrading ever since, skipping a version here or there.

It works great with the AVCHD files I've used so far. Playback is smooth and clean. Any questions, post em.

TomInJax · 05-03-2009, 07:55 PM

Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate works great, once you know the secret!

I have been complaining about Pinnacle's software and AVCHD since I first bought my HF100 about 14 months ago. Now I have found the secret to editing painlessly with Studio 12. You need to convert to a high bitrate (to preserve video quality) MPEG first. Once your video has been converted to MPEG, 25 Mb. You drop the converted clips into Pinnacle Studio 12, and it works like it is SD video you are editing.

For example. About 6 months ago, I was trying to edit an HD project and it was crashing, taking DAYS to render, etc. A month or so ago, I found a tip in Pinnacle's forums about converting the video first. I tried it, using Nero Vision to convert to high bitrate video MPEG files and it works.

Now instead of wasting a week or more on a video using AVCHD, I let the computer take 2 or 3 hours to convert a couple hours of AVCHD to MPEG file. Then I use the MPEG files to make my video project. I can add fades, wipes, special motion menus, and it doesn't crash. Rendering has been cut down from days, to just 2 or 3 hours for a 40 minute HD video! Amazing difference!

Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate acts like a completely different, stable, easy to use product using this process. Now I can have fun shooting, then doing my post production! I used to get so frustrated that the pets would run and hide!

-Tom
Now with a new Canon HF S100 Video Cam, and loving it!

mshulman · 05-07-2009, 04:23 PM

Having to convert before being able to work with it sounds like a pain. You'd think they'd fix that.

TomInJax · 05-08-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mshulman

Having to convert before being able to work with it sounds like a pain. You'd think they'd fix that.

If I could afford a 64bit, quad processor system it would probably work just fine!

I have been using Pinnacle Studio for about 9 or 10 years and I really like the interface. Since Avid bought the company, the product has gotten much more stable. I also have Sony Vegas running on the same machine, and it doesn't have the problem Studio has. But the interface, features, and ease of use (otherwise!) make the product a lot of fun to do post production.

Besides, Nero Vision can batch convert my MTS files. I just start it and forget it for a few hours, then start my project at my convenience.

I am tempted to try your Adobe solution. It is just kind of expensive.

mobiushky · 05-08-2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomInJax

If I could afford a 64bit, quad processor system it would probably work just fine!

I have been using Pinnacle Studio for about 9 or 10 years and I really like the interface. Since Avid bought the company, the product has gotten much more stable. I also have Sony Vegas running on the same machine, and it doesn't have the problem Studio has. But the interface, features, and ease of use (otherwise!) make the product a lot of fun to do post production.

Besides, Nero Vision can batch convert my MTS files. I just start it and forget it for a few hours, then start my project at my convenience.

I am tempted to try your Adobe solution. It is just kind of expensive.

I was going to say, I don't have any trouble editing my AVCHDs in Pinnacle. But then, I have a quad core 64-bit system...

David M · 07-07-2009, 12:07 PM

Has anyone tried Adobe CS4 with AVCHD? And how would this work on a Intel dual core with 3 gigs ram?

spooky78 · 07-30-2009, 09:32 AM

Hi,

I'm new on this forum,and i have a question.

I have a Sony HDR-XR106 and it makes super great HD video.
But how can i get the same quality on dvd.I've tried to make a AVCHD disc but the quality is not fine.
Must i make a BluRay disc or is it possible on dvd?

Grtz

butter1093 · 08-07-2009, 03:09 AM

The following video-editing software features support for the AVCHD format:

* Adobe Premiere Pro (from version CS4 onward; support not included in the trial version - activation must occur to gain AVCHD support)
* Adobe Premiere Elements (from version 7 onward)
* Apple's Final Cut Express 4, Final Cut Pro 6.0.1, and iMovie '08-'09 (iMovie is bundled with all new Apple computers; Final Cut Express and Pro are sold separately) do not support editing of AVCHD clips directly. Imported AVCHD clips are automatically converted into the Apple Intermediate Codec format, which requires more hard disk space (40GB per hour as opposed to 13.5GB per hour for Standard Definition DV), a more powerful machine (an Intel-based Mac), and a more recent OS (Mac OS X 10.5). Final Cut Pro 6.0.5 "logs and transfers" the footage from AVCHD to AppleProRes by default and also gives the option of converting to the Apple Intermediate Codec. It does not allow native transferring of the *.m2ts clips nor directly editing them. The latest release of Apple's iLife suite (specifically, iMovie) has added support for AVCHD Lite cameras and camcorders.[41][42]

* Cyberlink PowerDirector 7 is capable of editing AVCHD natively, without transcoding, intermediate codecs or proxy files. Using a patented technique (SVRT), AVCHD clips can be edited and output losslessly to AVCHD or Blu-ray disc. PowerDirector also supports GPU encoding acceleration on both ATI and NVidia graphics platforms. PowerDirector can output the finished movie to a variety of video formats, DVD, AVCHD on DVD, or Blu-ray disc.
* Grass Valley's Edius 5.0
* MacroSystem's Casablanca S-series editors (using Bogart 2.3 onward) AVCHD on DVD or Blu-ray disc
* Dayang's Montage Extreme [ME] 1.2
* Nero Ultra Edition Enhanced (from version 7 onward) includes the Nero Vision editor and the Nero Showtime player, which both support AVCHD files. NeroVision can author DVDs in the AVCHD format.
* Pinnacle Studio Plus (from version 11 onward)
* Sony Vegas 7.0e
* Vegas Pro (from version 8 onward)
* Vegas Movie Studio Platinum (from version 8 onward)
* Kdenlive for Linux and BSD platforms
For Converting:
My-Video-Converter Video Converter for Mac can convert MTS/M2TS files from some AVCHD camcorders (such as Sony HDR-SR (xx) series) and Blu-ray DVDs. It helps compress and convert MTS/M2TS to MP4, 3GP, AVI, MOV, MKV, FLV, VOB, SWF, MP3, FLAC, OGG, WAV, M4A, MP3, WAV, etc.

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03-29-2009, 12:56 AM	#61
Scoob High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 331	Jumped in.............. I actually bought Corel Movie Studio Pro x2 today from Amazon. When I start using it mid to late next week, I'll make sure and give a full report. I will say that the Pixela software that came with my Canon HF100 does serve some very basic purposes. I was able to send the video straight from my camera (hooked up via USB) to the program and burn a DVD-R in AVCHD format to play in my PS3. The video on the disc looked great without any degradation. Also the program gives you the option of burning the disc in AVCHD hi def or to traditional DVD resolution. We made a normal DVD and it looked quite good. We then tried to use the options on the Pixela program to edit AVCHD. It was a bit frustrating and cumbersome, the transitions were not just click and drag. We ended up just realizing what everybody else said....................just to buy an editing program. But I will keep the Pixela software on my PC as it is pretty easy to burn a DVD when in a hurry. __________________ Panasonic 50PZ80U 1080p Plasma Vizio 37 inch 720p LCD 20 GB PS3 Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player Philips BDP 7200 Blu-ray Player Onkyo TX-SR605 Audio reciever Canon Vixia HF100 HD camcorder Last edited by Scoob; 03-29-2009 at 12:57 AM. Reason: punctuation errors

04-06-2009, 01:09 PM	#63
Scoob High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 331	Impressions of Corel Video Studio X2 Well after a week of use I have a few impressions. First, when using it for editing, you need to enable to Smart Proxy feature. It makes the editing much quicker and manageable. It creates temp lower res files for editing which makes your computer faster and more responsive when reviewing. Yet when burning the entire project onto a disc or sharing it, it uses the original hi res files. Also, I like the ability the software has to convert AVCHD files to Mpeg2, Mpeg4, AVI, Mov, mpg or several other formats for sharing on Youtube, Vimeo or for watching on PC. __________________ Panasonic 50PZ80U 1080p Plasma Vizio 37 inch 720p LCD 20 GB PS3 Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player Philips BDP 7200 Blu-ray Player Onkyo TX-SR605 Audio reciever Canon Vixia HF100 HD camcorder

04-15-2009, 02:49 PM	#64
mshulman My Projector is High Def. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Marlborough, MA Age: 35 Posts: 6,572	For anyone looking for a great package for editing and authoring, I'd highly recommend Adobe Premiere Pro CS4. http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/ It comes with Adobe Encore CS4 which is for authoring DVD's and Blu-ray. Having been using Premiere for the last 10 years or so and having been using CS4 with AVCHD for a few weeks, I can say it works very well. I've had a few issues with the program crashing on me, but my system needs to some cleanup, so I've written the crashes off as my system being an issue. Premiere is excellent for editing and has a ton of features. I probably don't even make use of half of them. Encore is the same way. Just last night I put together my first blu-ray disc. I even added multiple audio tracks and a pop-up menu. Its very cool! The only downside to it is that its an expensive program. If you are in school or a teacher, then take advantage of being able to buy an academic version. I did 10 years ago and have been upgrading ever since, skipping a version here or there. It works great with the AVCHD files I've used so far. Playback is smooth and clean. Any questions, post em. __________________ Toshiba HD-A2 and HD-A3 PS3 Sanyo PLV-Z3 Canon HF-10 Onkyo 805 "I eat green berets for breakfast and I'm very hungry!"

05-03-2009, 07:55 PM	#65
TomInJax Memories in HD Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NE Florida Posts: 79	Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate works, but... Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate works great, once you know the secret! I have been complaining about Pinnacle's software and AVCHD since I first bought my HF100 about 14 months ago. Now I have found the secret to editing painlessly with Studio 12. You need to convert to a high bitrate (to preserve video quality) MPEG first. Once your video has been converted to MPEG, 25 Mb. You drop the converted clips into Pinnacle Studio 12, and it works like it is SD video you are editing. For example. About 6 months ago, I was trying to edit an HD project and it was crashing, taking DAYS to render, etc. A month or so ago, I found a tip in Pinnacle's forums about converting the video first. I tried it, using Nero Vision to convert to high bitrate video MPEG files and it works. Now instead of wasting a week or more on a video using AVCHD, I let the computer take 2 or 3 hours to convert a couple hours of AVCHD to MPEG file. Then I use the MPEG files to make my video project. I can add fades, wipes, special motion menus, and it doesn't crash. Rendering has been cut down from days, to just 2 or 3 hours for a 40 minute HD video! Amazing difference! Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate acts like a completely different, stable, easy to use product using this process. Now I can have fun shooting, then doing my post production! I used to get so frustrated that the pets would run and hide! -Tom Now with a new Canon HF S100 Video Cam, and loving it! __________________ Canon HF S100

05-07-2009, 04:23 PM	#66
mshulman My Projector is High Def. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Marlborough, MA Age: 35 Posts: 6,572	Having to convert before being able to work with it sounds like a pain. You'd think they'd fix that. __________________ Toshiba HD-A2 and HD-A3 PS3 Sanyo PLV-Z3 Canon HF-10 Onkyo 805 "I eat green berets for breakfast and I'm very hungry!"

07-07-2009, 12:07 PM	#69
David M High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 30	Has anyone tried Adobe CS4 with AVCHD? And how would this work on a Intel dual core with 3 gigs ram?

07-30-2009, 09:32 AM	#70
spooky78 What is HD? Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1	Hi, I'm new on this forum,and i have a question. I have a Sony HDR-XR106 and it makes super great HD video. But how can i get the same quality on dvd.I've tried to make a AVCHD disc but the quality is not fine. Must i make a BluRay disc or is it possible on dvd? Grtz

08-07-2009, 03:09 AM	#71
butter1093 My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9	The following video-editing software features support for the AVCHD format: * Adobe Premiere Pro (from version CS4 onward; support not included in the trial version - activation must occur to gain AVCHD support) * Adobe Premiere Elements (from version 7 onward) * Apple's Final Cut Express 4, Final Cut Pro 6.0.1, and iMovie '08-'09 (iMovie is bundled with all new Apple computers; Final Cut Express and Pro are sold separately) do not support editing of AVCHD clips directly. Imported AVCHD clips are automatically converted into the Apple Intermediate Codec format, which requires more hard disk space (40GB per hour as opposed to 13.5GB per hour for Standard Definition DV), a more powerful machine (an Intel-based Mac), and a more recent OS (Mac OS X 10.5). Final Cut Pro 6.0.5 "logs and transfers" the footage from AVCHD to AppleProRes by default and also gives the option of converting to the Apple Intermediate Codec. It does not allow native transferring of the .m2ts clips nor directly editing them. The latest release of Apple's iLife suite (specifically, iMovie) has added support for AVCHD Lite cameras and camcorders.[41][42] Cyberlink PowerDirector 7 is capable of editing AVCHD natively, without transcoding, intermediate codecs or proxy files. Using a patented technique (SVRT), AVCHD clips can be edited and output losslessly to AVCHD or Blu-ray disc. PowerDirector also supports GPU encoding acceleration on both ATI and NVidia graphics platforms. PowerDirector can output the finished movie to a variety of video formats, DVD, AVCHD on DVD, or Blu-ray disc. * Grass Valley's Edius 5.0 * MacroSystem's Casablanca S-series editors (using Bogart 2.3 onward) AVCHD on DVD or Blu-ray disc * Dayang's Montage Extreme [ME] 1.2 * Nero Ultra Edition Enhanced (from version 7 onward) includes the Nero Vision editor and the Nero Showtime player, which both support AVCHD files. NeroVision can author DVDs in the AVCHD format. * Pinnacle Studio Plus (from version 11 onward) * Sony Vegas 7.0e * Vegas Pro (from version 8 onward) * Vegas Movie Studio Platinum (from version 8 onward) * Kdenlive for Linux and BSD platforms For Converting: My-Video-Converter Video Converter for Mac can convert MTS/M2TS files from some AVCHD camcorders (such as Sony HDR-SR (xx) series) and Blu-ray DVDs. It helps compress and convert MTS/M2TS to MP4, 3GP, AVI, MOV, MKV, FLV, VOB, SWF, MP3, FLAC, OGG, WAV, M4A, MP3, WAV, etc. __________________ Make dreams come true.

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