Video Game Calibration??

TwoPlusTwo · 07-05-2010, 10:45 PM

I just finished break-in on my VT25 and calibrated the THX mode.

Not a lot of tweaking was necessary on the VT25's THX, actually.

Well I may check once more with a different calibration disc...the brightness setting I ended up with seems a bit on the high side...but that may be the room/my eyes.

Anyway, I like slightly different settings for video games. Also it's important to be able to see the shadows from enemies lurking around corners so they don't jump out and shoot me.

I like a bit higher contrast/slightly brighter colors when gaming but not nearly the "pop" that comes from GAME mode. GAME mode doesn't look right. I will use CUSTOM.

My typical way of "calibrating" for video games is to load up a couple of Final Fantasy XIII save files and just "eyeball" it.

Is there no better way to calibrate for video games? Is there a disc that helps me calibrate for games? I'd buy it...

jmohr1 · 07-07-2010, 03:21 PM

Pretty much every game has a different level of brightness and gamma from what you would expect from a "natural" source... Really the best I've found is to do what you're already doing. I use my base blu-ray calibration and go from there... Usually I end up upping brightness and dropping contrast (both slightly, like 2-5 on the scale), but even then, every game will be a little different. Just use whatever you're playing most at the moment. I generally calibrate with whatever CoD just came out as it's the only game I play where it really matters (like you said, don't want to miss shadows or muzzle flashes).

Just a couple words of advice, don't use any old retro style games or anything completely unnatural (like katamari) as they'll generally look terrible for anything else...

IlikeHDTVs · 07-11-2010, 10:42 AM

It's funny that you mention video games. Obviously having Contrast, brightness and tint is always essential no matter what content your viewing. With that said, Following the Rec 709 color gamut and a 6500k tracking gray scale will most likely leave you pretty disappointed in the realm of video games.

A cooler grayscale (but not TOO cool) would most likely liven things up a bit, as well as some extra color saturation.

The point that you are bringing up, about liking more "pop" in the picture, is exactly what led the television industry down the road that strayed away from the standard that IFS/THX follows. The REC 709 is actually pretty dull. There is nothing wrong with you pumping up that color control and using a "wider color gamut" as the tv manufacturers call it today.

I wonder if a game like FFXIII would look more accurate following a japanese gray scale standard? Don't they tend to calibrate there colors based on a 9300k gray scale?

Enjoy your game settings!

ZoSo · 07-14-2010, 09:54 AM

I too am looking for some ideal game settings. Right now my TV is calibrated correctly which is great for movies and such but I don't think it is optimum for video games and I share your concerns.
The simple way is just to adjust the brightness using an in-game settings screen. Brightness can't be all that needs to be adjusted though...

jkkyler · 07-14-2010, 10:59 AM

I was lucky enough to solve this by playing many of my games on my projector as it has a dedicated "game' mode that is awesome. Specifically it has an algorhythm that boosts shadow detail and dark scenes. Works perfectly. If not on my proj. I do like 2+2 and bump brightess and go to 'custom' mode on the panny plasma which seems to have a higher gamma level.

ZoSo · 07-14-2010, 12:04 PM

Good plan you have there jk.

I will have to play around with my settings and see what works...

Ty burton · 12-10-2012, 02:44 AM

Wow this link is old and I'm posting in it XD.

I'd just like to say, there IS a standard for video games. They use the REC709/sRGB space ( well the artists do what I believe) so you should calibrate to that. All video games use D65k Color temp ect.

Try to find some sRGB patterns to setup a Game Mode and it should look great, it certainly does on mine. And if necessary, you can always tweak brightness in game if it seems too dark/too bright, although a few people I've spoke to say don't bother with them, simply because alot of game developers don't have a clue about calibration.

Ty burton · 12-10-2012, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynt55hia

There is nothing wrong with you pumping up that color control and using a "wider color gamut" as the tv manufacturers call it today.

Surely that would make the image over saturated? Although there is no difference between 16-235 ( limited range) and 0-255 ( full range) when calibrated correctly, 0-255 is what the game industry has been using for quite awhile, though bear in mind your TV has to support it.

If it's a monitor then DEFINETLY set to 0-255.

jkkyler · 12-10-2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty burton

Surely that would make the image over saturated? Although there is no difference between 16-235 ( limited range) and 0-255 ( full range) when calibrated correctly, 0-255 is what the game industry has been using for quite awhile, though bear in mind your TV has to support it.

If it's a monitor then DEFINETLY set to 0-255.

What you responded to was a dummy post - cut and pasted from a response earlier so the poster could get to 5 posts and start with their spam.

Ty burton · 12-10-2012, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkkyler

What you responded to was a dummy post - cut and pasted from a response earlier so the poster could get to 5 posts and start with their spam.

Hhh. I have much to learn about spam lol

BlackOps · 12-10-2012, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

I just finished break-in on my VT25 and calibrated the THX mode.

Not a lot of tweaking was necessary on the VT25's THX, actually.

Well I may check once more with a different calibration disc...the brightness setting I ended up with seems a bit on the high side...but that may be the room/my eyes.

Anyway, I like slightly different settings for video games. Also it's important to be able to see the shadows from enemies lurking around corners so they don't jump out and shoot me.

I like a bit higher contrast/slightly brighter colors when gaming but not nearly the "pop" that comes from GAME mode. GAME mode doesn't look right. I will use CUSTOM.

My typical way of "calibrating" for video games is to load up a couple of Final Fantasy XIII save files and just "eyeball" it.

Is there no better way to calibrate for video games? Is there a disc that helps me calibrate for games? I'd buy it...

It is very difficult to do so. Video game developers do not typically follow established video reproduction standards. Achieving an accurate image for gaming is darn near impossible given the variations from game to game.

07-05-2010, 10:45 PM	#1
TwoPlusTwo 2x GTX Titan SLI Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Academia Posts: 6,836	Video Game Calibration?? I just finished break-in on my VT25 and calibrated the THX mode. Not a lot of tweaking was necessary on the VT25's THX, actually. Well I may check once more with a different calibration disc...the brightness setting I ended up with seems a bit on the high side...but that may be the room/my eyes. Anyway, I like slightly different settings for video games. Also it's important to be able to see the shadows from enemies lurking around corners so they don't jump out and shoot me. I like a bit higher contrast/slightly brighter colors when gaming but not nearly the "pop" that comes from GAME mode. GAME mode doesn't look right. I will use CUSTOM. My typical way of "calibrating" for video games is to load up a couple of Final Fantasy XIII save files and just "eyeball" it. Is there no better way to calibrate for video games? Is there a disc that helps me calibrate for games? I'd buy it... __________________ Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO-101FD, HP ZR30w 30" 1600p Monitor, 7.1 Surround Sound Equipment, Gaming PC, Playstation 3. Harmony One Remote. Currently Playing: Metro Last Light (PC) , Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon (PC) Steam ID: NonTensorial

07-11-2010, 10:42 AM	#3
IlikeHDTVs High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49	It's funny that you mention video games. Obviously having Contrast, brightness and tint is always essential no matter what content your viewing. With that said, Following the Rec 709 color gamut and a 6500k tracking gray scale will most likely leave you pretty disappointed in the realm of video games. A cooler grayscale (but not TOO cool) would most likely liven things up a bit, as well as some extra color saturation. The point that you are bringing up, about liking more "pop" in the picture, is exactly what led the television industry down the road that strayed away from the standard that IFS/THX follows. The REC 709 is actually pretty dull. There is nothing wrong with you pumping up that color control and using a "wider color gamut" as the tv manufacturers call it today. I wonder if a game like FFXIII would look more accurate following a japanese gray scale standard? Don't they tend to calibrate there colors based on a 9300k gray scale? Enjoy your game settings! Last edited by IlikeHDTVs; 07-11-2010 at 10:52 AM.

07-14-2010, 09:54 AM	#4
ZoSo Steelers & Flyers in HD! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 162	I too am looking for some ideal game settings. Right now my TV is calibrated correctly which is great for movies and such but I don't think it is optimum for video games and I share your concerns. The simple way is just to adjust the brightness using an in-game settings screen. Brightness can't be all that needs to be adjusted though... __________________ Equipment: VIZIO SV422XVT 42" 1080p LCD, JVC Receiver, D*TV HR21-200, Xbox 360 Elite, PS3 80 GB Xbox Live: iZoSo PSN: ZoSo1969 Recent BD: Alice in Wonderland, Date Night, Unthinkable, Kick-Ass, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince http://www.invelos.com/dvdcollection.aspx/RedDragon

07-14-2010, 10:59 AM	#5
jkkyler I bleed for HD Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,300	I was lucky enough to solve this by playing many of my games on my projector as it has a dedicated "game' mode that is awesome. Specifically it has an algorhythm that boosts shadow detail and dark scenes. Works perfectly. If not on my proj. I do like 2+2 and bump brightess and go to 'custom' mode on the panny plasma which seems to have a higher gamma level. __________________ HT- Panasonic TH-50PZ800U 1080p plasma, Panasonic PT-AX200u LCD projector, Elite Vmax Electric 100' screen, Onkyo TX-NR905 AVR, Paradigm Titan Monitor v5 fronts, Paradigm CC-190 v6 center, Paradigm Atom Monitors v5 surrounds(x4), HSU research VTF-2 sub, xbox360+hd-dvd player ,Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray, D*tv H21 HD-DVR Bedroom: Insignia NS-lcd26, Samsung BDP-1400 blu-ray Den - Vizio 20" 1080p LCD + Samsung BD-p1600 Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Albert Einstein

07-14-2010, 12:04 PM	#6
ZoSo Steelers & Flyers in HD! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 162	Good plan you have there jk. I will have to play around with my settings and see what works... __________________ Equipment: VIZIO SV422XVT 42" 1080p LCD, JVC Receiver, D*TV HR21-200, Xbox 360 Elite, PS3 80 GB Xbox Live: iZoSo PSN: ZoSo1969 Recent BD: Alice in Wonderland, Date Night, Unthinkable, Kick-Ass, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince http://www.invelos.com/dvdcollection.aspx/RedDragon

07-07-2010, 03:21 PM	#2
jmohr1 47" 1080P... Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Age: 31 Posts: 75	Pretty much every game has a different level of brightness and gamma from what you would expect from a "natural" source... Really the best I've found is to do what you're already doing. I use my base blu-ray calibration and go from there... Usually I end up upping brightness and dropping contrast (both slightly, like 2-5 on the scale), but even then, every game will be a little different. Just use whatever you're playing most at the moment. I generally calibrate with whatever CoD just came out as it's the only game I play where it really matters (like you said, don't want to miss shadows or muzzle flashes). Just a couple words of advice, don't use any old retro style games or anything completely unnatural (like katamari) as they'll generally look terrible for anything else...

12-10-2012, 02:44 AM	#7
Ty burton Freeeeeeedooooooom! LoL Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: I live in Britain in a county called Cheshire ( it's not a very interesting place). Posts: 129	Wow this link is old and I'm posting in it XD. I'd just like to say, there IS a standard for video games. They use the REC709/sRGB space ( well the artists do what I believe) so you should calibrate to that. All video games use D65k Color temp ect. Try to find some sRGB patterns to setup a Game Mode and it should look great, it certainly does on mine. And if necessary, you can always tweak brightness in game if it seems too dark/too bright, although a few people I've spoke to say don't bother with them, simply because alot of game developers don't have a clue about calibration. __________________ "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." T.E.Lawrence http://mypsn.eu.playstation.com/psn/...eBurton125.png

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