Wow. Sony is still Sony...

strawberry · 08-10-2005, 12:55 PM

For anyone planning on pirating BR material, you might want to read up on this. Anyone else a little concerned that those of us who use our players in a legitimate way are going to suffer for the actions of a few miscreants?

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...10_131820.html

SLedford · 08-10-2005, 01:14 PM

I have never pirated anything and don't plan to start. But if I buy a BR recorder I will expect to be able to record my favorite HD TV program from cable. And to be able to play that disk on another BR machine. And to burn and play my home movies on a BR disk. Similar to what I could do with VHS or with my DVD burner WITHOUT having the machine hooked up on a continual basis to the internet or my recordings playable only on the machine that made the recording.

If the recording can only play on that particular machine all my recordings become useless when / if that recorder dies or is damaged / stolen. A machine hooked up to some monitoring site over the internet is another bad idea. Do you really want someone being able to monitor what you watch and / or record?

The recording industry really needs to be taught a lesson. Perhaps if we all agreed to not visit a theater or buy a DVD for six months they would get the message that the consumers are not happy and do matter. Or not. They would just blame it on piracy and push for even stronger controls.

**PFC5** · 08-10-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SLedford

I have never pirated anything and don't plan to start. But if I buy a BR recorder I will expect to be able to record my favorite HD TV program from cable. And to be able to play that disk on another BR machine. And to burn and play my home movies on a BR disk. Similar to what I could do with VHS or with my DVD burner WITHOUT having the machine hooked up on a continual basis to the internet or my recordings playable only on the machine that made the recording.

If the recording can only play on that particular machine all my recordings become useless when / if that recorder dies or is damaged / stolen. A machine hooked up to some monitoring site over the internet is another bad idea. Do you really want someone being able to monitor what you watch and / or record?

The recording industry really needs to be taught a lesson. Perhaps if we all agreed to not visit a theater or buy a DVD for six months they would get the message that the consumers are not happy and do matter. Or not. They would just blame it on piracy and push for even stronger controls.

This is going to make the HD-DVD format more desirable than BluRay. IMO

I want to be able to record something on my bedroom HD recorder while no one (read kids) are there to mess it up and play it at night in my home theater. There are just so many legal/moral possibilities lost with these new controls put into BR.

Count me out of BluRay now for sure.

borromini · 08-10-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

...Count me out of BluRay now for sure.

OK...you're out, but remember when you're out...you are OUT. No changing your mind. If you attempt to purchase a BR player, you will be denied by all consumer electronics check-out cashiers.

strawberry · 08-10-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by borromini

OK...you're out, but remember when you're out...you are OUT. No changing your mind. If you attempt to purchase a BR player, you will be denied by all consumer electronics check-out cashiers.

And if he somehow makes it past that point, the self-destruct method will get him once his player is connected and his i.p. address has been identified.

RSawdey · 08-10-2005, 05:12 PM

The CP is only for pre-recorded BD-ROM, nothing to do with recordable BD-RAM.

Since both types of burners will likely only have Firewire inputs, we'll be limited to recording what the source specifies... copy never, copy once, or copy freely. Copy once will probably be keyed to a certain device, copy freely would play anywhere.

**PFC5** · 08-10-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by borromini

OK...you're out, but remember when you're out...you are OUT. No changing your mind. If you attempt to purchase a BR player, you will be denied by all consumer electronics check-out cashiers.

LOL

videobruce · 08-14-2005, 11:22 AM

Phony: overated, status symbol.....

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SLedford HD Fan Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 1,023	If it is not easy to use, won't buy it. I have never pirated anything and don't plan to start. But if I buy a BR recorder I will expect to be able to record my favorite HD TV program from cable. And to be able to play that disk on another BR machine. And to burn and play my home movies on a BR disk. Similar to what I could do with VHS or with my DVD burner WITHOUT having the machine hooked up on a continual basis to the internet or my recordings playable only on the machine that made the recording. If the recording can only play on that particular machine all my recordings become useless when / if that recorder dies or is damaged / stolen. A machine hooked up to some monitoring site over the internet is another bad idea. Do you really want someone being able to monitor what you watch and / or record? The recording industry really needs to be taught a lesson. Perhaps if we all agreed to not visit a theater or buy a DVD for six months they would get the message that the consumers are not happy and do matter. Or not. They would just blame it on piracy and push for even stronger controls.

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