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Old 08-07-2006, 05:43 PM   #1
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I am trying to find out how to watch DVD's in High Def. If I have a home theater system with built-in DVD player, is it possible to watch regular DVD's in High Def? Right now I am going through component out from my tuner to my television.
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I am trying to find out how to watch DVD's in High Def. If I have a home theater system with built-in DVD player, is it possible to watch regular DVD's in High Def? Right now I am going through component out from my tuner to my television.

Unless you are talking about changing your player settings to progressive which will give you a better picture.
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I am trying to find out how to watch DVD's in High Def. If I have a home theater system with built-in DVD player, is it possible to watch regular DVD's in High Def? Right now I am going through component out from my tuner to my television.
Component is fine but, no - regular DVDs are standard definition (480 lines) not high definition (720 or 1080) - nothing you can do to them will convert them to HD. However they will look a lot better on an HDTV than a regular TV as the HDTV will upconvert the picture to suit the native resolution of your HDTV - this does not add information but fills in the lines to create a more dense picture with the lines less visible than on an SDTV or EDTV.
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There is no way to turn your typical DVDs' picture into "real" HD quality.

The DVD image could be upscaled or converted to match HD resolutions (i.e. 720p or 1080i/p), but no detail is being added. You would need to purchase either a Blu-ray or HD DVD player (along with the respective BR or HD DVD discs) to watch movies in HD.

To sum up / clarify... is it possible to watch regular DVD's in High Def? ... no.
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i just got a 60" lcd and so far everything looks horrible. i understand that it's because everything is blown up and i don't have hd programming yet. but shouldn't my dvds look nice at least? i'm running component cables for both my dvd player and ps2. my ps2 looks like nintendo.
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DVD's might look ok but it will depend upon factors such as your dvd player and the dvd's you are watching. Some dvd's are just plain poor...such as the early seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. On a good dvd player, however, some like Fifth Element, Lord of the Rings and Star Wars will look near-high def. This all presumes that you have taken the time to set up your TV properly...calibrated etc. You really won't see the capability of your TV until you have high def programming or perhaps HD DVD, however.
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i just got a 60" lcd and so far everything looks horrible. my ps2 looks like nintendo.
Think of it as digital zoom on a camera. With that 60" screen, you've just zoomed in about 5 times or more compared to the amount of resolution you have availible. That's why it looks so splotchy.
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Negative, you don't say what equipment you have, but if it's decent quality (dvd, dvd player, tv) then it should look very good. I have a 70" display and some standard dvds approach a hi-def look at times.

I would suggest you make sure that on both your dvd player and tv that none of the full screen settings are enabled such as zoom, stretched, full etc. Zoom for instance looks really bad on my tvs.
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i just got a 60" lcd and so far everything looks horrible. i understand that it's because everything is blown up and i don't have hd programming yet. but shouldn't my dvds look nice at least? i'm running component cables for both my dvd player and ps2. my ps2 looks like nintendo.
I'm no gamer, but I don't think that PS2 has Component outputs. Are you sure it's a Component conncetion you are using on you DVD player? That would be 5 wires for each connection. Also I have at least one progresive scan DVD player that need to have Progresive scan enabled before it would play progrersively. I don't know if this is the case with your player.
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I'm no gamer, but I don't think that PS2 has Component outputs. Are you sure it's a Component conncetion you are using on you DVD player? That would be 5 wires for each connection. Also I have at least one progresive scan DVD player that need to have Progresive scan enabled before it would play progrersively. I don't know if this is the case with your player.
Incorrect.
All three major consoles, PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube all have component cables and support progressive scan, and PS2/XBOX can go into HD. I should know, because all of the consoles I have are qired as such.
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Like I said. I'm not a gamer. My kids have the PS2, but I have never seen them use Component
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You need an accesory I believe and of course you also need a HDTV to use component also.
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I am trying to find out how to watch DVD's in High Def. If I have a home theater system with built-in DVD player, is it possible to watch regular DVD's in High Def? Right now I am going through component out from my tuner to my television.
When I watch regular "24" episode DVDs -for instance - with a 110" LCD 1280x720 FP using an Oppo upscaling to the FP DVI input - most of the scenes look as good as the average PQ on the screen at the movies - when faded prints, bad focus and dirty optics at the multiplex are factored in.
Some scenes though - like the (static) interiors seem even better - virtually High Def - while some of the outdoor action sequences are reminiscent of just very good analog video - which is still enjoyable - even at 110" - when upscaled and carefully adjusted for contrast and color and sharpness -
- obviously (to me anyway) - the VBR of the standard DVD, the scaler(s), the transfer techniques and the original DP and post-production staff are all effective - in the regular DVDs and even more so for the High Def versions -
Some HD-DVDs are said to be no better than regular DVD version by purchasers -while others are praised as works of art -

-Rent a regular DVD movie you think is a good DVD transfer - I like "The Legend of Bagger Vance" for it's detail and color (from high bitrate)- and see what you can do to optimize your present setup.
In the mature (generally out-of-print) world of High Definition (D-Theater) VHS -some of the best PQ titles sell for $50-$100 (even used) for single tapes on Amazon - hopefully HD-DVD or BluRay will issue those primo movies in equal - or better - PQ for under $30 - someday

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I have not seen any HD-DVD movies that didn't look better than SD DVDs on my 720p HDTV. I have seen a couple that have some poor scenes that only look a little better than SD, but even those movies look better overall than the SD version.

The ones that have this problem are the ones that were improperly bobbed when they were converted from 1080i to 1080p for HD-DVD transfers. Warner stated that they will no longer dothis subpar method anymore. They even pulled a couple of releases this summer that used this faulty process. I watched The Fugitive (one of those such transfers), and it definately looked better than the SD DVD version still.

Some movies will always have better transfers than others. It still happens with SD DVDs too after 9 years. It really depends on the studios and so far, the BD only studios seem to care much less about PQ than Universal Studios. I have not seen ONE HD-DVD from them that did not look outstanding.

The poster "GoPanthers" that you quoted will NEVER get as good a PQ with ANY upscaler (even the A1) with SD DVDs. You cannot add data that isn't there to make it HD when the source is SD. You might make it a little/somewhat better IF the upscaler does a better job at scaling than the display does, but no cheap upscalers do that. The closest one to do that is the Oppo at $200.00. But then you might have macroblocking with that if your display is prone to show it like a lot of plasma HDTVs do.
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I have not seen any HD-DVD movies that didn't look better than SD DVDs on my 720p HDTV....The poster "GoPanthers" that you quoted will NEVER get as good a PQ with ANY upscaler (even the A1) with SD DVDs. You cannot add data that isn't there to make it HD when the source is SD. You might make it a little/somewhat better IF the upscaler does a better job at scaling than the display does, but no cheap upscalers do that. The closest one to do that is the Oppo at $200.00. But then you might have macroblocking with that if your display is prone to show it like a lot of plasma HDTVs do.
"You cannot add data that isn't there" -
That's the mantra for all the 100's of "upscaling is fake" posts - on this board

The fact is decoders whether Mpeg2 or VC-1 are producing a 1200Gb/s (1080i/30) or 2500Gb/s (1080p/60) data from a mere 8-30Mb/s encoded data bitrate. -
Fewer than 2% of the bits displayed are actually sent - 50 times as many are added at "your place" by the decoder -

The modest extra decoding (scaling -if you will) -using motion vectors and interpolation algorithms mathematically no more complex than the techniques used by encoder) These quality scalers made by several sources documented on these forums are commonly used to generate as many pixels and frames from SD material - as desired - for quality displays

Continuing to claim - "You cannot add data that isn't there" is about the same as saying denying a 15 or 30 GB disc can hold the same HD PQ as a 35 or 50 GB disc -probably not true -
Even better possibilities exist - if you spend your money on good codecs and use them properly - but it takes engineering commitment (money) - not marketing hype (money) to accomplish -
Like the Zensonic Z500 Stand alone Wireless Media player which costs almost as much as a Toshiba HD-DVD player - but how many people here know of it -

There's an analogy over on AVS comparing SD upscaling to HD inputs to the way old time Western Union telegraphers would send the very fewest words or symbols necessary to convey the message - and the guy at the end would guess on what the original was when typing the telegram.

Or my version -Back in the 50's - "live" teletype or even telegraph feeds of not much more than statistics - to local radio stations allowed them to do real time play-by-plays of baseball games even including "Foley Props" - that were ostensibly as accurate as ifthe accouncer were hundreds of miles away at the actual game -It all depended on the talents of the "encoder+decoders+scalers"
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