What would you say is a must have in an HD DVD collection?

JMS · 09-01-2009, 09:52 AM

"An HDTV" sounds right because it is right. The pronunciation of the letter "H" is soft and therefore "an" is appropriate, for the same reason "a honor" is incorrect.

Loves2Watch · 09-01-2009, 10:18 AM

Jeez, you guys, this is my last post on the subject but that an HDTV is not correct. Just because it sounds right to you and others, doesn't mean it is...

Lee Stewart · 09-01-2009, 11:44 AM

Articles: A versus An

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/

Loves2Watch · 09-01-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Articles: A versus An

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/

Thanks Lee, that's more like it...

sawzalot · 09-01-2009, 01:10 PM

Geez if the post by Lee is correct then so is mine and for what it's worth I know that I am 100% right.
check out my link below, somewhat familiar source.

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/

Please read the third section down : remember using A or AN depends on the sound of the next word...

I mean guys I'm using the same resources as LEE so what's wrong with mine ?

JMS · 09-01-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Articles: A versus An

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Thanks Lee, that's more like it...

Yes Lee, that is more like it. At the bottom of the page:

Quote:

Since the 'h' hasn't any phonetic representation, no audible sound, in the first exception, the sound that follows the article is a vowel; consequently, 'an' is used.

Therefore soft "h" words like honor and heir are preceded by "an". Once again, the pronunciation of the letter "h" is soft (with the vowel sound of a long "a", followed by a "tch"), "an" must also precede it. It is therefore an H, not a H.

But oh I forgot, this is the internet....

Quote:

Before a letter or an acronym or before numerals, choose "a" or "an" according to the way the letter or numeral is pronounced: an FDA directive, a United Nations' resolution, a $50.00 bill.
—Information in this presentation is based on statements made in
Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, Mirriam-Webster Inc., Publishers; Springfield, Massachusetts, 1989.

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index...view_unit/3431

Loves2Watch, do you actually read any of these links?

Loves2Watch · 09-01-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMS

Loves2Watch, do you actually read any of these links?

Of course I do but it seems you don't.

JMS · 09-01-2009, 06:29 PM

You can go ahead and say "a HDTV" and you'd be wrong.

Loves2Watch · 09-01-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMS

You can go ahead and say "a HDTV" and you'd be wrong.

Total failure but hey, do what you want...

Lee Stewart · 09-01-2009, 10:56 PM

JMS:

If you accept my link - which it appears that you do - you even highlighted this part:

Quote:

Since the 'h' hasn't any phonetic representation, no audible sound, in the first exception, the sound that follows the article is a vowel; consequently, 'an' is used

Then you have to "follow the rule."

HDTV - we say H......D......T.....V - so the H is hard - that means it gets an a - it's a HDTV

If we say High Definition Television - that is also a hard H so again it uses a - it's a High Definition Television

Ruffrob · 09-02-2009, 03:04 AM

Wow,never thought I'd see English usage on a technical forum....

BTW,Lee,I'm with you,those 'a's and 'an's have to put in their proper places ,cause to a reasonably sound
reader/listener,it's sounds really awkward when they're not....

sawzalot · 09-02-2009, 11:17 AM

This resource was written by Purdue OWL.
Last full revision by Paul Lynch.
Last edited by Allen Brizee on June 3rd 2009 at 4:41PM

Summary: This handout discusses the differences between indefinite articles (a/an) and definite articles (the).Remember, using a or an depends on the sound that begins the next word. So...

* In some cases where "h" is pronounced, such as "historical," use an:

An historical event is worth recording.

Lee Stewart · 09-02-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sawzalot

This resource was written by Purdue OWL.
Last full revision by Paul Lynch.
Last edited by Allen Brizee on June 3rd 2009 at 4:41PM

Summary: This handout discusses the differences between indefinite articles (a/an) and definite articles (the).Remember, using a or an depends on the sound that begins the next word. So...

* In some cases where "h" is pronounced, such as "historical," use an:

An historical event is worth recording.

Always nice to show the WHOLE "article" - you forgot this:

In writing, "a historical event" is more commonly used.

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/

MikeRox · 09-04-2009, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMS

You can go ahead and say "a HDTV" and you'd be wrong.

My dialect lets me say an HDTV

as I'm Yorkshire and the dialect tends to omit H from the start of any word sounds.

However correct English for writing it would be a HDTV.

sawzalot · 09-04-2009, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Always nice to show the WHOLE "article" - you forgot this:

In writing, "a historical event" is more commonly used.

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/

Yes exactly , in writing, well I'm not writing a book here I am posting words exactly as I said them straight from the lip, chatting if you will and I said "an HDTV" as It was intended by the sound that follows a/an /the.

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sawzalot HDTV Football=Euphoria Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cape May,N J Posts: 524	How to use Articles ( a/an/the ) Geez if the post by Lee is correct then so is mine and for what it's worth I know that I am 100% right. check out my link below, somewhat familiar source. http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/ Please read the third section down : remember using A or AN depends on the sound of the next word... I mean guys I'm using the same resources as LEE so what's wrong with mine ? Last edited by sawzalot; 09-01-2009 at 01:21 PM.

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09-01-2009, 09:52 AM	#46
JMS I'm gettin' all pixelated Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,OH Posts: 576	"An HDTV" sounds right because it is right. The pronunciation of the letter "H" is soft and therefore "an" is appropriate, for the same reason "a honor" is incorrect.

09-01-2009, 11:44 AM	#48
Lee Stewart Behold - the future! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 25,188	Articles: A versus An http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/

09-01-2009, 06:29 PM	#53
JMS I'm gettin' all pixelated Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,OH Posts: 576	You can go ahead and say "a HDTV" and you'd be wrong.

09-02-2009, 11:17 AM	#57
sawzalot HDTV Football=Euphoria Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cape May,N J Posts: 524	This resource was written by Purdue OWL. Last full revision by Paul Lynch. Last edited by Allen Brizee on June 3rd 2009 at 4:41PM Summary: This handout discusses the differences between indefinite articles (a/an) and definite articles (the).Remember, using a or an depends on the sound that begins the next word. So... * In some cases where "h" is pronounced, such as "historical," use an: An historical event is worth recording.