Vudu offering HD downloads, say goodbye to HD DVD and Blu-ray

v1001 · 11-20-2007, 08:31 PM

I'm cool with it. As long as it's the same quality. And then I could burn it to an HD-DVD Recordable.

It should be able to work if you consider that FIOS is really taking off. Fios is fast enough to handle that large of file sizes. And even then I dont think people will mind if they have to "order it" and have it be playable later that night or in the morning. They wait days for rentals they wont mind waiting a bit for a download. They could queue up a bunch too. Would be all ready for them when they want to watch.

Besides that they could make it a "pre-download". Then it's on their Hard drive and ready to go when it's "released". So no time lost. It's there that day to be unlocked.

This could be great to. Then we would get 4k transfers sooner. whenever some super high res TV's start showing up.

And think about this.... there won't be "Blu" or "red" movies. All movies would be available at some point

fmw · 11-21-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

but even then, people still buy CD's and there is really no reason to. .

Sound quality?

Dare · 11-21-2007, 02:01 AM

It's because CDs are >> UNCOMPRESSED PCM << !!

(clouds parting, rays of light, choirs singing, etc)

oblioman · 11-21-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by v1001

I'm cool with it. As long as it's the same quality. And then I could burn it to an HD-DVD Recordable.

It should be able to work if you consider that FIOS is really taking off. Fios is fast enough to handle that large of file sizes. And even then I dont think people will mind if they have to "order it" and have it be playable later that night or in the morning. They wait days for rentals they wont mind waiting a bit for a download. They could queue up a bunch too. Would be all ready for them when they want to watch.

Besides that they could make it a "pre-download". Then it's on their Hard drive and ready to go when it's "released". So no time lost. It's there that day to be unlocked.

This could be great to. Then we would get 4k transfers sooner. whenever some super high res TV's start showing up.

And think about this.... there won't be "Blu" or "red" movies. All movies would be available at some point

Be cheaper to burn to BD - at today's prices.

cbcdesign · 11-21-2007, 05:18 AM

Yeah and we all know how 100% reliable burning is don't we?
There is no substitute for having a manufactured disk in a nice case that can be stored easily and played anytime. Downloading will compliment bought disks but any idea that it will replace them is nonsense in my case and I suspect many others.

hippy fascist · 11-21-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by oblioman

Be cheaper to burn to BD - at today's prices.

oblioman, since you're so into the idea of burning, why do you support the format that uses such excessive DRM?

MikeRox · 11-21-2007, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dare

It's because CDs are >> UNCOMPRESSED PCM << !!

(clouds parting, rays of light, choirs singing, etc)

So why did we need SACD and DVD-As?

Kinda helps explain why they didn't take off

**PFC5** · 11-21-2007, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

So why did we need SACD and DVD-As?

Kinda helps explain why they didn't take off

SACD/DVD-Audio had higher sampling & bit rates compared to CD.

hippy fascist · 11-21-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

SACD/DVD-Audio had higher sampling & bit rates compared to CD.

lol

did these make as much of a difference as the higher bandwidth has for blu-ray?

**PFC5** · 11-21-2007, 07:31 AM

Actually it made an ACTUALLY REAL WORLD difference unlike the BD bandwidth.

kbaker2002de · 11-21-2007, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fmw

Sound quality?

But I don't listen to the CD, I listen to it on my iPod, and on my Computer at work. I really don't hear that much difference in quality, althought I could just be adjusting my expectations based upon the quality of speakers I am running it through.

**PFC5** · 11-21-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

But I don't listen to the CD, I listen to it on my iPod, and on my Computer at work. I really don't hear that much difference in quality, althought I could just be adjusting my expectations based upon the quality of speakers I am running it through.

Using headphones will cloud the hearing somewhat, but the differences are there to hear if you have an ear for it and know what to listen for. Many people just use music as background noise, instead of intently listening to every nuance of every note.

GLOW · 11-21-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Actually it made an ACTUALLY REAL WORLD difference unlike the BD bandwidth.

We still haven't had the chance to hear a max bitrate DTS-HD MA track vs DDTHD vs PCM for the same movie. According to a reviewer at HTF it sounds better than anything he's ever heard. We've already established that uncompressed often sounds better than DDTHD even with the dialnorm off.

GLOW · 11-21-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

But I don't listen to the CD, I listen to it on my iPod

There is no way an iPod can sound even remotely close to a CD. iPods have the WORST low's ever (read: no bass period, it's like listening through a tin can). Even if you use a bass booster adapter it will still sound like crap because it's just a lame attempt to round out the mid's and high's. I hate iPods.

But I still use them.

MikeRox · 11-21-2007, 11:55 AM

Sony Walkmans produce a pretty decent sound. I've got a nice official Sony docking kit for mine that I use as a stereo at work, it's just more conveniant to use my phone rather than cart CDs to and from work.

Depressing as it is, I'm yet to experience any noticible improvement depending on audio codecs used so I guess it's just not the sort of thing that would benefit me having all this high def lossless audio hoo-har.

I can tell the difference between 2.1 and 5.1, and I can tell if something is tinny/lacking bass etc. But when it comes to Dolby 5.1, DTS, THX and the like, I can't really tell much difference. So I've always assumed lossless would probably be similar. At the current prices for lossless receivers over here, it's not a difference I want to really notice either

11-20-2007, 08:31 PM	#16
v1001 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 118	I'm cool with it. As long as it's the same quality. And then I could burn it to an HD-DVD Recordable. It should be able to work if you consider that FIOS is really taking off. Fios is fast enough to handle that large of file sizes. And even then I dont think people will mind if they have to "order it" and have it be playable later that night or in the morning. They wait days for rentals they wont mind waiting a bit for a download. They could queue up a bunch too. Would be all ready for them when they want to watch. Besides that they could make it a "pre-download". Then it's on their Hard drive and ready to go when it's "released". So no time lost. It's there that day to be unlocked. This could be great to. Then we would get 4k transfers sooner. whenever some super high res TV's start showing up. And think about this.... there won't be "Blu" or "red" movies. All movies would be available at some point Last edited by v1001; 11-20-2007 at 08:40 PM.

11-21-2007, 02:01 AM	#18
Dare I moon you. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,436	It's because CDs are >> UNCOMPRESSED PCM << !! (clouds parting, rays of light, choirs singing, etc) __________________ LG GGC-H20L Super Multi Blue Blu-ray & HD DVD ROM Drive 58 31

11-21-2007, 07:31 AM	#25
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11-21-2007, 11:55 AM	#30
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,416	Sony Walkmans produce a pretty decent sound. I've got a nice official Sony docking kit for mine that I use as a stereo at work, it's just more conveniant to use my phone rather than cart CDs to and from work. Depressing as it is, I'm yet to experience any noticible improvement depending on audio codecs used so I guess it's just not the sort of thing that would benefit me having all this high def lossless audio hoo-har. I can tell the difference between 2.1 and 5.1, and I can tell if something is tinny/lacking bass etc. But when it comes to Dolby 5.1, DTS, THX and the like, I can't really tell much difference. So I've always assumed lossless would probably be similar. At the current prices for lossless receivers over here, it's not a difference I want to really notice either __________________ REGION B 4TW! Latest HD additions - I Love You Man - 17 Again - Born on the 4th of July - Paul Blart: Mall Cop - Monsters, Inc. HD Movies - Um... Lost count >_< bout 250 Latest Gaming Additions - Mirrors Edge - Scene It BOS - Wartech: Senko No Ronde - Lego Indiana Jones/Kung Fu Panda 2 pack - Silent Hill

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11-21-2007, 05:18 AM	#20
cbcdesign High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Somerset, UK Posts: 1,313	Yeah and we all know how 100% reliable burning is don't we? There is no substitute for having a manufactured disk in a nice case that can be stored easily and played anytime. Downloading will compliment bought disks but any idea that it will replace them is nonsense in my case and I suspect many others.