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Old 07-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #61
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TVersity and ISOhunt make an even better pairing then any of the above if you have a PS3
I know this is going to seem crazy, but I actually like to pay for what I use. I know it's a strange concept, but I believe in following the spirit of the law more-so than following the letter of the law. I have no problem making a copy of any media that I own for personal use, but I find just downloading (stealing) a movie to be morally wrong.

It may be legal in Canada, but I don't think it's ethical.

Oh, BTW. Once PS3 starting being able to directly stream divx, I deleted TVersity.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:12 PM   #62
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I know this is going to seem crazy, but I actually like to pay for what I use. I know it's a strange concept, but I believe in following the spirit of the law more-so than following the letter of the law. I have no problem making a copy of any media that I own for personal use, but I find just downloading (stealing) a movie to be morally wrong.

It may be legal in Canada, but I don't think it's ethical.

Oh, BTW. Once PS3 starting being able to directly stream divx, I deleted TVersity.
TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.
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Heh...I wonder how well that logic will work in court... But it does sound good

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TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:10 PM   #64
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TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.
Ummm, I'm going to idsagree with you here. When you borrow a movie from a friend, the film itself is not being duplicated. The friend does not maintain the ability to watch the movie while the film is in your hands.

This is not the case with ISOhunt. With ISOhunt the film is copied to your HDD, while the seeders keep their copies. In my mind this is the same as theft. If you want to borrow a movie, there are legal alternatives out there.

Once again, I acknowledge that I live in a country where downloading is legal (for now), but in my mind there is a big disconnect between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
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Ummm, I'm going to idsagree with you here. When you borrow a movie from a friend, the film itself is not being duplicated. The friend does not maintain the ability to watch the movie while the film is in your hands.

This is not the case with ISOhunt. With ISOhunt the film is copied to your HDD, while the seeders keep their copies. In my mind this is the same as theft. If you want to borrow a movie, there are legal alternatives out there.

Once again, I acknowledge that I live in a country where downloading is legal (for now), but in my mind there is a big disconnect between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
Who said I was downloading copyrighted films? There are plenty of films who's copyright has expired and is now public property. Also, it's a good way to share home films with friends.
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Who said I was downloading copyrighted films? There are plenty of films who's copyright has expired and is now public property. Also, it's a good way to share home films with friends.
Umm, this depends on where you live and where the copyright was registered. In the US the copyright duration on films is 50 years (in some cases it can be up to 120 years), and as such some films created before 1958 are currently public domain. However in places like the UK (and many commonwealth countries), copyright is 70 from the death of the last creator (director, scriptwriter, author, composer...they all have to be dead). What this means is that there are very few films that fall under public domain under these laws.

It should also be noted that the waters get muddier when trademarks are included in the picture (Thanks CETA). Although a film property may become public domain, the use of a trademarked character in the film mar not be. A good example of this would be the film Steamboat Mickey. This film is in the public domain, but the trademark for Mickey Mouse is still in effect. As such, the distribution of the film is prohibited (primarily commercial distribution, but there has never been a case testing this) by the trademark holder.

The home films are not a problem, since you are the creator and have distribution rights for your own film.
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