Blu-Ray's success won't equate to PS3's success

mahmer · 01-14-2008, 04:08 PM

Now obviously it will help the PS3 that it seems as if Blu-Ray has won the format war. But I don't think it is going to push the PS3 past the Xbox 360. With Sony lowering the cost of Blu-Ray machines, buying a PS3 is no longer the cheapest way to enjoy the format. It will boil down to the games as usual. But to me, it comes down to the ports not the exclusives. So far, the slight edge goes to the Xbox 360 with smoother frame rates on games like Madden. The PS3 would have to start using its supposed power to outshine 360 games head to head. Once that starts happening, then a shift will occur. But there is no evidence of this happening as of yet.

GLOW · 01-14-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mahmer

Now obviously it will help the PS3 that it seems as if Blu-Ray has won the format war. But I don't think it is going to push the PS3 past the Xbox 360.

So, using your logic, the Xbox 360 isn't successful because the Wii is doing much better?

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With Sony lowering the cost of Blu-Ray machines, buying a PS3 is no longer the cheapest way to enjoy the format.

That's just plain false. The cheapest standalone BD player is $499, and the cheapest PS3 is $399.

Bigloww · 01-14-2008, 04:40 PM

Not that it really matters or I care, But they have a few BD stand alones on the market today for $399. I know most of them are last gen models (Sony S300/S1, Panasonic BD10a and the Sammy BDP1400), but they are around.....

http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/Ntt/...ewidesearch.do

And I seen the Panny DMPBD30K floating around for $419 on Amazon, $479 at CC..

jquick77 · 01-14-2008, 05:02 PM

I think that I have also read that you can't update some of the BD players. The PS3 you can, because it is connected to the internet.
I guess this means that you won't be able to get some of the newer features.

Steve44 · 01-14-2008, 05:15 PM

Bluray may not help the PS3 but I assure you the PS3 will help bluray!!!

KEEBS1984 · 01-14-2008, 05:52 PM

Beating a system in consoles sold does not equate to success. For example, the Nintendo DS has sold over 50,000,000 handheld units worldwide. This is a pretty big number and probably seems pretty daunting for the PSP right?

Well the PSP has sold about 25,000,000 handhelds. Does that mean Sony should pack up and go home? The DS is clearly, and very obviously, selling way more units than the PSP. No, the PSP is still a very successful system. Both are very siccessful at what they do and it shows in their sales.

The PS3 may be in third place in terms of consoles sold (and that may or may not change in the years ahead) but I have no doubt in my mind that it will be a successful console.

junehhan · 01-14-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW

So, using your logic, the Xbox 360 isn't successful because the Wii is doing much better?

That's just plain false. The cheapest standalone BD player is $499, and the cheapest PS3 is $399.

The Costco by me has the Sony BDP's at regular price for $349 or less, while the cheapest PS3 bundle they sell is still over $500. Didn't Sony drop the price on their BDP's?

gameguru1360 · 01-14-2008, 06:56 PM

maybe costco is getting rid of their 40gb bundles and only having the 80gb bundles available.....

Bleedgreen71 · 01-14-2008, 11:23 PM

costco cleaned up this christmas with their bundled deals since that was all at was left in many areas of the coutry. Most people IMO wouldn't get bundles unless left with no option, which was the case this holiday season. Alot of people paid upwards of $400-$500 for a Wii bundle because they couldn't find them otherwise.

Razor05 · 01-15-2008, 09:45 AM

Lol, you guys have to quit comparing the HD consoles to the Wii. Not in the same league.

gameguru1360 · 01-15-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor05

Lol, you guys have to quit comparing the HD consoles to the Wii. Not in the same league.

so what kind of console is the Wii considered to be?? A new generation exercise console??

Razor05 · 01-15-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gameguru1360

so what kind of console is the Wii considered to be?? A new generation exercise console??

Heh, I'll go for that!

Loves2Watch · 01-15-2008, 03:16 PM

The reverse is actually a truer statement, if it wasn't for the PS3 Blu-ray would be nowhere. The PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray has been as successful as it has to this point in time.

gameguru1360 · 01-15-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

The reverse is actually a truer statement, if it wasn't for the PS3 Blu-ray would be nowhere. The PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray has been as successful as it has to this point in time.

wonder if blu-ray might've become blu-ray/UMD if Sony decided to use blu-ray only for the PSP!!!

Razor05 · 01-15-2008, 05:09 PM

Better yet, I wonder where the PS3 would be without BluRay?

01-14-2008, 04:08 PM	#1
mahmer High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 49	Blu-Ray's success won't equate to PS3's success Now obviously it will help the PS3 that it seems as if Blu-Ray has won the format war. But I don't think it is going to push the PS3 past the Xbox 360. With Sony lowering the cost of Blu-Ray machines, buying a PS3 is no longer the cheapest way to enjoy the format. It will boil down to the games as usual. But to me, it comes down to the ports not the exclusives. So far, the slight edge goes to the Xbox 360 with smoother frame rates on games like Madden. The PS3 would have to start using its supposed power to outshine 360 games head to head. Once that starts happening, then a shift will occur. But there is no evidence of this happening as of yet.

01-14-2008, 04:40 PM	#3
Bigloww Shitter was full. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In a van, down by the river. Posts: 5,135	Not that it really matters or I care, But they have a few BD stand alones on the market today for $399. I know most of them are last gen models (Sony S300/S1, Panasonic BD10a and the Sammy BDP1400), but they are around..... http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/Ntt/...ewidesearch.do And I seen the Panny DMPBD30K floating around for $419 on Amazon, $479 at CC.. Last edited by Bigloww; 01-14-2008 at 04:45 PM.

01-14-2008, 06:56 PM	#8
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01-14-2008, 05:02 PM	#4
jquick77 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 223	I think that I have also read that you can't update some of the BD players. The PS3 you can, because it is connected to the internet. I guess this means that you won't be able to get some of the newer features.

01-14-2008, 05:15 PM	#5
Steve44 Super Moderater Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington D.C. metropolitan area Age: 28 Posts: 1,045	Bluray may not help the PS3 but I assure you the PS3 will help bluray!!!

01-14-2008, 05:52 PM	#6
KEEBS1984 Loves me some Blu-rays :) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 2,261	Beating a system in consoles sold does not equate to success. For example, the Nintendo DS has sold over 50,000,000 handheld units worldwide. This is a pretty big number and probably seems pretty daunting for the PSP right? Well the PSP has sold about 25,000,000 handhelds. Does that mean Sony should pack up and go home? The DS is clearly, and very obviously, selling way more units than the PSP. No, the PSP is still a very successful system. Both are very siccessful at what they do and it shows in their sales. The PS3 may be in third place in terms of consoles sold (and that may or may not change in the years ahead) but I have no doubt in my mind that it will be a successful console.

01-15-2008, 03:16 PM	#13
Loves2Watch SPAM Police Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ, NM, TX, MX Posts: 13,940	The reverse is actually a truer statement, if it wasn't for the PS3 Blu-ray would be nowhere. The PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray has been as successful as it has to this point in time. __________________ Theater 1 - Panasonic TH-85PF12U Plasma TV, 6 Conrad Johnson LP275M Amps, Anthem Statement D-2 Pre/Pro, 6 Thiel SCS4 Speakers, 2 REL T-1 Subs, Infinity Interlude 120S Sub, Simaudio MOON Orbiter Universal Disc Player, ELP Laser Turntable, 2 Dish Network ViP 622 DVR's, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray Player, Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD Player. Friends don't let friends buy Korean brand TV's.

01-15-2008, 05:09 PM	#15
Razor05 HD = 65 beautiful inches Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Better yet, I wonder where the PS3 would be without BluRay? __________________ Panasonic TH-65PZ850U Sony KDL37XBR6 Panasonic TH-37PX50U Cambridge Audio Azur 640R & 740C Paradigm Studio 60's, 20's, CC-590 & Seismic 12 Panasonic DMP-BD35 Toshiba HD-XA2 & A35 Motorola VIP1200 Monster HTFS1000, PB2100 AA 1154a MW2 LE Xbox 360 & Halo3 LE + HD-DVD GT: Razor59 Sony PS3 slim GT:Razor_59 Sony PSP

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