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Old 01-14-2007, 01:26 AM   #1
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As of right now, as well as most of us, I am loving the way HD DVD is showing itself over blue ray at the moment... I won't go into my reasons as we all know what the majority of them are and what not.

However, at CES blu ray seemed to be the unanimously supported technology when it came to other companies displaying HD content.

Check out Peer's blog on IGN for example. It is the second blog down from the top at the moment... scroll to the bottom of the blog.

http://blogs.ign.com/Peer-IGN/

I really hope HD DVD succeeds not just because of the fact that (as of now) it is technically more impressive, but because of its price.

I'd really be pissed off if blu ray won in the end, only to make us consumers pay literally twice as much for next gen dvd formats for no reason whatsoever.
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twice as much? huh? in my eyes HD-DVD movies prices and blu-ray movie prices are practically the same(well where im at in canada at least). blu-ray movies up here range from $29.99-$32.99 and HD-DVD movies range from $28.99-31.99... a big one dollar difference is hardly anything... where im at (at least walmart so far) has more blu-ray titles then HD-DVD since both new formats sit onthe same wall in the same shelf.

"technically more impressive"
now thats one quote i simply do not understand. both formats are HD, both formats look amazing.
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Eddie I think he is refering to the hardware to play it and no a PS3 is not a stand alone BRD player and is only marginally a game console. I agree there is no way in hell I am paying that much money for any BD player for a format from a company I will not support ie SONY.
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PS3 is not a stand alone BRD player and is only marginally a game console.
WTF is that supposed to mean? What is the PS3?
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I really hope HD DVD succeeds not just because of the fact that (as of now) it is technically more impressive
How is HD DVD more "technically impressive" than Blu-ray?
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How is HD DVD more "technically impressive" than Blu-ray?
I know you didn't ask me, but I've been impressed by the level of interactivity shown so far (HDi) and I'm also impressed by the specs mandating the support of certain advanced audio codecs.

I'm also impressed with the consistent PQ and AQ that HD DVD has provided.

I'm not impressed with what BD has shown so far in terms of BD-J/interactivity. I'm also not impressed with multiple profiles that aren't clearly revealed to the public. The lack of disclosure leaves me very unimpressed in that regard.
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I know you didn't ask me, but I've been impressed by the level of interactivity shown so far (HDi) and I'm also impressed by the specs mandating the support of certain advanced audio codecs.

I'm also impressed with the consistent PQ and AQ that HD DVD has provided.

I'm not impressed with what BD has shown so far in terms of BD-J/interactivity. I'm also not impressed with multiple profiles that aren't clearly revealed to the public. The lack of disclosure leaves me very unimpressed in that regard.

Also add to that the fact that all of this impressive technology only costs $500!
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A M$ VP who plays a big part in VC-1, HD-DVD, etc, addressed this. Read this thread: http://www./avs-vb/showt...&&#post9441455
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Go slower, I do not understand what you are saying here.

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Eddie I think he is refering to the hardware to play it and no a PS3 is not a stand alone BRD player and is only marginally a game console.
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Go slower, I do not understand what you are saying here.
i think he meant that a regular hd-dvd player costs $500, where as a blu-ray dvd player costs $1000....so if the movies cost roughly the same, and you get the exact same picture quality out of both formats, things seem to point to hd-dvd coming out on top in the end. sony tried to push blu-ray on everyone by including it in the ps3, but as we have seen, that was a big mistake since it only led to delays and less than eye-popping sales.

oh one more thing....there was a new article online that said that 3 top porn production companies back hd-dvd and not blu-ray because blu-ray is partly owned by disney...if this is true, this spells doom for blu-ray since it was largely suggested that the support from the porn industry is what helped vhs beat out betamax when that forwat war was going on.....
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Also add to that the fact that all of this impressive technology only costs $500!

Only for the time being. The current HD-DVD players that cost $500 will soon be replaced by the $1000 Toshiba HD-DVD player that will actually do 1080p. So therefore your cost comparison is flawed.
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The current HD-DVD players that cost $500 will soon be replaced by the $1000 Toshiba HD-DVD player that will actually do 1080p. So therefore your cost comparison is flawed.
Wrong. The A2 was just released, smart guy. There was also a new player - the A20 - announced at CES that will carry an MSRP of $599.99.

Plus, there's always the add-on, for $199.99 if you're a 360 owner.

Your 1080p comment shows you know very little about the technology. You should really educate yourself a little better before you comment.
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Plus, there's always the add-on, for $199.99 if you're a 360 owner.
or a PC owner.
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Only for the time being. The current HD-DVD players that cost $500 will soon be replaced by the $1000 Toshiba HD-DVD player that will actually do 1080p. So therefore your cost comparison is flawed.

As stated by 2 other people, the HD-A2 was just released and has an MSRP of $499. It is currently selling for $409 on Amazon, and probably at a similar price via Robert at valueelectronics. I would imagine that the HD-A2 will probably only get replaced when the HD-A3 comes out next year. The HD-XA2 that you are thinking of has just been released and carries a price of $908 to $999. 1080p might sound like a great thing to the very few who have a large 1080p tv, but it really is meaningless when you only have a 720p or 1080i HDTV. I plan on getting a 40 inch Samsung, Sharp, Sony(the 3 S's) 1080p TV next Christmas(if my current budgeting strategy holds), and probably won't even bother with the HD-XA2 since there just isn't hardly a difference in a 1080p TV that size between 1080i vs. 1080p. Gaming would be a different story, but it doesn't matter since games really arn't going to run in 1080p until the next next-gen consoles hit the market in 3 years or so. I'm just glad that unlike the BDP crowd, I get to enjoy high definition audio from my movies right now with built in DD+ and DTHD decoders in my HD-A1.
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Wrong. The A2 was just released, smart guy. There was also a new player - the A20 - announced at CES that will carry an MSRP of $599.99.

Plus, there's always the add-on, for $199.99 if you're a 360 owner.

Your 1080p comment shows you know very little about the technology. You should really educate yourself a little better before you comment.

Oh I beg to differ. I'm simply comparing the price of a Toshiba HD-DVD player that outputs 1080p. Therefore it is wrong to compare a 1080p Blu-Ray with a 720p/1080i HD-DVD player. And correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a $400 360 in order to add a $200 add on? Now the price is definitely above your $500 price comparison. Now who needs educated.
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