Xbox 360 and 1080p :confused:

Bigloww · 10-04-2006, 11:52 AM

I am pretty sure this subject has already been address but I want to confirm a couple things about 360 and 1080p. I don't really care about the whole 1080p thing and my plasma doesn't support it anyway but just checking. A couple articles state that the only way (for now) to display 1080p will be via the VGA cable. What if you don't have a 1080p display with VGA (but I think most do). I think they said if your display is capable of 1080p through component, games still can be played in 1080p. Other articles state that 360 HD DVD may soon support HDMI?? Is that true? I heard that was a dead issue. Again, none of these issues really concern me now and just trying to iron out the rumor mill. I am eagerly awaiting the release of the 360 HD DVD addon and am ready to pounce on it.

720p and 1080i is good enough for me........

http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/21...ent-1080p-vga/

GLOW · 10-04-2006, 11:55 AM

games can output 1080p through component b/c games don't have the same restrictions that movies do. for the HD DVD add-on, only vga can output 1080p.

InitialDMP5 · 10-04-2006, 12:48 PM

yeah, the whole HDMI issue is something that shouldn't be. I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't make an HDMI cable!! Its not that hard.

They use the excuse that they are waiting for more customer demand, and higher market penetration for HDMI, but its been a fixture on every HD tv for the last 3 years.

Even so, they could manufacture a smaller supply of HDMI cables and see how it goes. Nintendo did this with the component cables, and then sold them online. At the time there was not a strong market for the cables, but now its almost required. Nobody knows the real reason for Microsofts blunder here.

As far as 1080p goes for games, you can do that with component just as GLOW said. And all of the movies released in both Blu Ray and HD DVD up to this point have not applied the encryption token, so they can run 1080p through component, but once HD movies start to get copied and ripped online, HDMI will be required.

This is where it gets sticky. If you have a device that doesn't support the method of watching the movie, you have a giant paperweight.

ht_addict · 10-04-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by InitialDMP5

yeah, the whole HDMI issue is something that shouldn't be. I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't make an HDMI cable!! Its not that hard.

They use the excuse that they are waiting for more customer demand, and higher market penetration for HDMI, but its been a fixture on every HD tv for the last 3 years.

Even so, they could manufacture a smaller supply of HDMI cables and see how it goes. Nintendo did this with the component cables, and then sold them online. At the time there was not a strong market for the cables, but now its almost required. Nobody knows the real reason for Microsofts blunder here.

As far as 1080p goes for games, you can do that with component just as GLOW said. And all of the movies released in both Blu Ray and HD DVD up to this point have not applied the encryption token, so they can run 1080p through component, but once HD movies start to get copied and ripped online, HDMI will be required.

This is where it gets sticky. If you have a device that doesn't support the method of watching the movie, you have a giant paperweight.

So if MS makes a HDMI cable will it just be the same as the component cable right now with an HDMI end instead off component? I just picked up a 360 and run the component into my 4806 and output to my LCD via HDMI. I'd love too keep everything HDMI if possible.

bboncorr · 10-04-2006, 06:56 PM

there could be 2 reasons ms is waiting.

1. they are losing so much money on each 360 so they gotta make as much as possiable off any add on available. component cables are very cheap but they can charge a premium since there not regular component cables that you can just buy from any store.

2. they were waiting for the whole hdmi 1.3 specs to be finalized. this is very likely the reason for the wait. its been finalized so im sure one will be on its way. more then likely around when the hddvd add on comes out.

sufs · 10-04-2006, 07:17 PM

Come spring 07 probablly but not with the HD DVd add on for sure, they have confirmed that like 3 times.

bboncorr · 10-04-2006, 07:57 PM

guess i misprinted that. i meant sometime after the hddvd add on came out. i was thinking late winter or early spring. it wont really matter to me unless i need it for dolby truehd.

10-04-2006, 11:52 AM	#1
Bigloww Chi Town Baby.. Da Bears. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In a van, down by the river. Posts: 5,130	Xbox 360 and 1080p :confused: I am pretty sure this subject has already been address but I want to confirm a couple things about 360 and 1080p. I don't really care about the whole 1080p thing and my plasma doesn't support it anyway but just checking. A couple articles state that the only way (for now) to display 1080p will be via the VGA cable. What if you don't have a 1080p display with VGA (but I think most do). I think they said if your display is capable of 1080p through component, games still can be played in 1080p. Other articles state that 360 HD DVD may soon support HDMI?? Is that true? I heard that was a dead issue. Again, none of these issues really concern me now and just trying to iron out the rumor mill. I am eagerly awaiting the release of the 360 HD DVD addon and am ready to pounce on it. 720p and 1080i is good enough for me........ http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/21...ent-1080p-vga/

10-04-2006, 06:56 PM	#5
bboncorr High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,418	there could be 2 reasons ms is waiting. 1. they are losing so much money on each 360 so they gotta make as much as possiable off any add on available. component cables are very cheap but they can charge a premium since there not regular component cables that you can just buy from any store. 2. they were waiting for the whole hdmi 1.3 specs to be finalized. this is very likely the reason for the wait. its been finalized so im sure one will be on its way. more then likely around when the hddvd add on comes out. __________________ Living Room pioneer kuro plasma PDP-5010FD (9.9) Denon 4308CI (9.5) B&W 683's, HTM61, 685's (9.0) Sony PS3 (9.0) Sony BD-S350 (9.5) HSU VTF-3 MK3 sub (9.0) Harmony 1000 (9.5) XBOX360 + HD DVD (9.2) Nintendo Wii (7.5) Netflix Roku (9.0) Gaming Room 60A3000 (8.7) Halcro ssp200 (10. perfection) Deftech BP7004, C/L/R2002, BP2X (8.7) Sony Remote Commander (7.0) Toshiba HDA35 (7.9) Samsung 1400 (5.0) Bedroom Panasonic TH-42PZ85U (8.7) Tivo HD (9.7)

10-04-2006, 07:57 PM	#7
bboncorr High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,418	guess i misprinted that. i meant sometime after the hddvd add on came out. i was thinking late winter or early spring. it wont really matter to me unless i need it for dolby truehd. __________________ Living Room pioneer kuro plasma PDP-5010FD (9.9) Denon 4308CI (9.5) B&W 683's, HTM61, 685's (9.0) Sony PS3 (9.0) Sony BD-S350 (9.5) HSU VTF-3 MK3 sub (9.0) Harmony 1000 (9.5) XBOX360 + HD DVD (9.2) Nintendo Wii (7.5) Netflix Roku (9.0) Gaming Room 60A3000 (8.7) Halcro ssp200 (10. perfection) Deftech BP7004, C/L/R2002, BP2X (8.7) Sony Remote Commander (7.0) Toshiba HDA35 (7.9) Samsung 1400 (5.0) Bedroom Panasonic TH-42PZ85U (8.7) Tivo HD (9.7)

10-04-2006, 11:55 AM	#2
GLOW PUBLIC ENEMY #1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chi 'til I die Age: 30 Posts: 7,643	games can output 1080p through component b/c games don't have the same restrictions that movies do. for the HD DVD add-on, only vga can output 1080p.

10-04-2006, 12:48 PM	#3
InitialDMP5 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco Age: 28 Posts: 336	yeah, the whole HDMI issue is something that shouldn't be. I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't make an HDMI cable!! Its not that hard. They use the excuse that they are waiting for more customer demand, and higher market penetration for HDMI, but its been a fixture on every HD tv for the last 3 years. Even so, they could manufacture a smaller supply of HDMI cables and see how it goes. Nintendo did this with the component cables, and then sold them online. At the time there was not a strong market for the cables, but now its almost required. Nobody knows the real reason for Microsofts blunder here. As far as 1080p goes for games, you can do that with component just as GLOW said. And all of the movies released in both Blu Ray and HD DVD up to this point have not applied the encryption token, so they can run 1080p through component, but once HD movies start to get copied and ripped online, HDMI will be required. This is where it gets sticky. If you have a device that doesn't support the method of watching the movie, you have a giant paperweight.

10-04-2006, 07:17 PM	#6
sufs Generation HD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lebanon Posts: 1,019	Come spring 07 probablly but not with the HD DVd add on for sure, they have confirmed that like 3 times.