Gamespy on PS3 @ E3

Cygnus · 05-11-2006, 08:26 AM

GameSpy's 5 Editors have all trounced Sony's showing. So much for the "next-generation starts with us", hunh Kaz Hirai(sp?)..

Sony's Score: C, D, C+, D+, C
Nintendo: B, B+, B+, B, B
Microsoft: B+, B, B-, A-, NA

http://ps2.gamespy.com/articles/706/706921p1.html

Bryn Williams (EIC, Console)

Sony

Being the first out of the gate is sometimes a good thing. And other
times it's not. The big focus for Sony this year was obviously the
PlayStation 3. And while there's no doubt in my mind that the platform is extremely competent and exceptionally powerful, I couldn't help feel a little disappointed after the presentation had wrapped up. The biggest bummer was the lack of "must-see" games on display. Sure, Heavenly Sword made a great impression on the crowd, and the demo played very well indeed, but other than that and perhaps Resistance: Fall of Man, I felt like Sony failed to capitalize on its opportunity.

I also truly believe that the price point announced for the hardware
was a blow to morale as well. I have a hard time believing that the
average or casual gamer is going to want to blow $700+ for a PS3 and a few games at time of launch. It's just too costly. I understand that cutting edge technology comes at a price, but both Nintendo and
Microsoft's machines cost considerably less. Aside from the rather dry delivery of the presentation in general, there were some cool nuggets that filtered through. I really think Sony is going to have its act together in terms of a decent, functional online system for the PS3 and PSP (it might even give Xbox Live a run for its money), and I also think the direction of the PSP is going to help the company keep its foot in the handheld market. At the end of the day, this is the
PlayStation 3 we're talking about -- and it's a very powerful brand to
be sure. It's going to be really interesting to see how well the
hardware is adopted when it launches at the end of the year.

Sony's Final Grade: C

Gerald Villoria (Associate Console Editor)

Sony

It all began for us this year at Sony's press conference. Not only did
the event start late, it ran on for what seemed like forever, thanks to
countless PowerPoint slides and glowing recaps of the success of Sony's previous two consoles. Once they finally got around to showing us the games, I was underwhelmed. Gran Turismo HD, despite a gloriously detailed Grand Canyon track, gave me the impression of being a glorified tech demonstration. Games like Warhawk, Genji 2, and Resistance: Fall of Man just failed to really give me the impression that the powerful PS3 was capable of truly significant graphical upgrades over what we've seen on the Xbox 360. A trailer for Metal Gear Solid 4 drew lots of applause from the fans, but I would have liked to see some gameplay footage.

The exception to this was Heavenly Sword, which blew me away. As David so succinctly stated in his preview, this game plays like God of War on steroids. I played through the full E3 demo and got a good look at the great depth behind the game's combat system. With so many attacks, counters, and nifty finishers at your disposal, all things are pointing to this one being a must-play. That didn't save the conference from being a huge disappointment to me, though, capped off by the outrageous pricing announcement. Will consumers be willing to pay close to a thousand dollars for a console, an extra controller, and a couple games? I sure wouldn't.

Sony's Final Grade: D

Miguel Lopez (MMO Editor)

Sony

No question about it: Sony had some sick exclusive games on show, many of which I'm personally excited about playing. I'm a consummate Metal Gear fan, and chances are, I'll be playing MGS4 on PS3 long before I'll see it on a more, err, considerately-priced console. Same with Virtua Fighter 5, though I'd be surprised to see that on another platform, period.

Which brings us to the ugly, unavoidable topic. Cash money. Sony wants a lot of my money for a PS3, and frankly, I'm not sure if I'm prepared to part ways with it. Sure, I'm in a privileged position; there will be a PS3 at GameSpy's offices, and at worst, I'll just have to fight with my colleagues in order to spend some time with it. But for the average gamer, $500-600 is a lot of money, and I could very well see many people passing on it simply because they can't justify the expense. This brings up some interesting questions -- are game consoles going to require the same level of investment as PCs from here on out? I accept the fact that the PS3 will be the most technologically sophisticated console at the time of its release. But does that justify the fact that Sony is making gamers stretch so far beyond their means?

I'm just not going to think about this too much, and allow myself to
get excited about the games as they emerge. Hopefully, by the time the system's release comes around, I'll have won the lottery or something.

Sony's Final Grade: C+

Will Tuttle (Console Editor) Sony

Wow, where to start. Well, actually, I guess I should start out with
the positives. Heavenly Sword looks like an absolute blast, like a more insanely frenetic version of God of War. I got a chance to play
Resistance: Fall of Man, and while it doesn't really bring very many
new elements to the FPS genre, it looks like it'll feature some intense
battlefield action. At this point, the game I'm most looking forward to
is Assassin's Creed by Ubisoft, but we unfortunately only got to see it
in pre-rendered trailer form.

OK, now for the bad. I hope you've got a comfortable seat, because
there are a lot of them. Aside from Heavenly Sword, there wasn't a
single title that made me think "Damn, I gotta get me one of those,"
and even that game mainly made me look forward to the inevitable God of War 3. And what's the deal with that insane price point? I mean, Sony's been saying for months that the system will be "expensive," but that hefty price tag still felt like a slap in the face. Coming into the show, I was sure that Sony had something big in store for us, but the gyroscopic controller felt like either a rushed response to Nintendo's Wii or... well, that's probably exactly what it was.

Sony's Final Grade: D+

David Hodgson (Freelancer)

Sony

Highlights: Aside from Ken Kutaragi's Colonel Saunders outfit, the Sony press conference, which showcased much but sometimes forgot to show the real-deal gameplay goods, gave us two games that rose above the hype: Resistance: Fall of Man, and Heavenly Sword. I'm officially excited about the PS3 after witnessing mass alien grub infestation carnage with 1950s ordnance and Soul Calibur-meets-God of War weapon combat that's as madcap as it is enthralling. But am I $720 dollars excited?

Lowlights: Gran Turismo HD was perhaps not the best example to showcase the supposed power of the PS3; it wasn't clear enough that this was a stop-gap demo, as the trees were as two-dimensional as the crowds; watch the press conference video on a regular television, and you'd be wondering why this was even made. But the biggest problem was what Sony chose to "forget" to mention: a cut-down version of the console that still costs half a grand (no SD card slot? Great!), the omitting of a second HDMI port and a hastily removed rumble feature for the joypad. Then there's the price that means you'll be forking out almost $1000 for a system with a couple of games and peripherals... ouch. But the
biggest concern? No shows for Killzone and Motorstorm, and obviously pre-rendered footage for much of the line-up. Eight Days looks rad, but I'm not sure that was real gameplay, was it? I'm slightly numbed: I expected more.

Sony's Final Grade: C

EddieDZ · 05-11-2006, 02:51 PM

give me a break.. theres PC gamers that pay over $600 for just a graphics card alone... the price is nothing, think about it its a blu-ray player too for godsake's lol..

ViperVenom18 · 05-11-2006, 04:45 PM

Well yeah.. ths PS3 is a deal, but this is about there conference, which totally sucked ahrdcore. Where Nintendo's and Microsofts didn't. I have a 360, and really wanted to get a ps3, but so far I have no interest in it... I don't buy a console for dvd playback, but the games, and sony really is lacking there, besides mgs4. Sony is 99 percent hype, and the games that it has over the rest, aka gta and gt, either lacked (gt) or are now on different consoles (gta4 on 360)

As of now, I have no reason to buy a ps3.

I'm surprised to say that I'm lookin forward to buying a wii, and keeping my 360

True2daGame · 05-11-2006, 05:20 PM

Hey Vipe I agree ,thats something we both finnally agree on.LOL

ChaosMan1014 · 05-11-2006, 07:07 PM

I'm only going to address the 60GB bundle here so please read with care:

Not that I'm rushing to defend SONY because honestly I think I enjoyed Wii's conference best but you have to conisder a couple of things. It's high def thus will automaticaly cost more than Wii. While 360 is also high def it does not have a Hi Def movie player built in. Their HD DVD drive will cost a MINIMUM of 100 dollars. Which means for the premium package, now the only package OFFICIALLY supported my M$, you will end up paying 500 dollars. Add the fact there is no wifi (you must buy this separately) or memory readers (okay maybe it's a little eccentric but it can count) or a 60GB hard drive that the premium bundle (as opposed to the 20GB bundle you'd have to be a retard to buy if you were to buy a PS3) currently standard with the system. This makes the PS3 really not THAT much more expensive than a "fully loaded" 360 sytem.

EddieDZ · 05-11-2006, 09:18 PM

personally i felt Sony's conference was not "beyond anything" either.. then again i feel neither where the other two, especiallies microsoft, blahh.

Sony did show alot of gameplay footage, gave a date and price. the only good thing microsoft showed where gameplay footage of Gears of War(very sweet!) and an annoucement(with a not the greatest trailer) of Halo 3.. personally i feel that is about it, all the rest was just talk talk talk.

on the other hand i personally think nintendos conference "WOWED" me the most... at first when i first saw the controller i was totally like "what the F~~~??!!" but after seeing the games and the way your suppose to use the controller.. i think with that controller alone its completely revolutionary!.. yea the Wii(funny name too lol) is not the most powerful console nor are they doing HD, however the games did look better then current gamecube games and on top of that personally the best thing they announced was Zelda as a launch title.. OH MY GOD WOW!!!! that right there is going to sell the console plus throw in Mario galaxy for a launch title too and you got one hell of a deal.. oh wait did i mention its going to be alot less then the PS3 and 360... YIKES.

I am a sony(playstation) fan hardcore but i feel bad this time around.. i for one will more then likely(95%+) not be getting the PS3 on launch date OR anytime soon.. i'll wait for the price to drop thank you very much and i'll wait for a killer app game(MGS4, GT4, FFXIII etc), though i must admit some games are look very hot like heavenly sword, resistance and warhawk.

tanaka · 05-11-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosMan1014

I'm only going to address the 60GB bundle here so please read with care:

Not that I'm rushing to defend SONY because honestly I think I enjoyed Wii's conference best but you have to conisder a couple of things. It's high def thus will automaticaly cost more than Wii. While 360 is also high def it does not have a Hi Def movie player built in. Their HD DVD drive will cost a MINIMUM of 100 dollars. Which means for the premium package, now the only package OFFICIALLY supported my M$, you will end up paying 500 dollars. Add the fact there is no wifi (you must buy this separately) or memory readers (okay maybe it's a little eccentric but it can count) or a 60GB hard drive that the premium bundle (as opposed to the 20GB bundle you'd have to be a retard to buy if you were to buy a PS3) currently standard with the system. This makes the PS3 really not THAT much more expensive than a "fully loaded" 360 sytem.

I know what you are saying.
I don't think that most people are like "why is the ps3 so expensive, theirs nothing in it."
Most people i think are more like "the ps3 is so expensive why did they have to put so much in it."
Most people don't see paying for things like 7.1 surround, 1080p technology and a format that has yet to be seen whether or not it will become dominant over another.
Is a blue ray player plus a video game system a steal for 600$? Most definetely...if you want it, and if it becomes the dominant format. Otherwise the answer is no. Its a complete waste. And people just don't know yet, and thats going to hurt sony.

Cygnus · 05-12-2006, 09:01 AM

Yeah but the big difference is this: with 360 you have the choice of getting the HD-DVD, but you don't with sony. Its just yet another tactic by sony to force their proprietary crap on consumers. They arrogantly think consumers will buy PS3 at whatever amount its price. Regarding the 360's lack of wifi, I already have a wireless switch, so I use it to make 360 wireless, as I did with PS2. So that is no big deal to me. Besides most people that played PS2 or XB online, prob has it connected wireless anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMan1014

I'm only going to address the 60GB bundle here so please read with care:

Not that I'm rushing to defend SONY because honestly I think I enjoyed Wii's conference best but you have to conisder a couple of things. It's high def thus will automaticaly cost more than Wii. While 360 is also high def it does not have a Hi Def movie player built in. Their HD DVD drive will cost a MINIMUM of 100 dollars. Which means for the premium package, now the only package OFFICIALLY supported my M$, you will end up paying 500 dollars. Add the fact there is no wifi (you must buy this separately) or memory readers (okay maybe it's a little eccentric but it can count) or a 60GB hard drive that the premium bundle (as opposed to the 20GB bundle you'd have to be a retard to buy if you were to buy a PS3) currently standard with the system. This makes the PS3 really not THAT much more expensive than a "fully loaded" 360 sytem.

siccivic420 · 05-12-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cygnus

Yeah but the big difference is this: with 360 you have the choice of getting the HD-DVD, but you don't with sony. Its just yet another tactic by sony to force their proprietary crap on consumers. They arrogantly think consumers will buy PS3 at whatever amount its price. Regarding the 360's lack of wifi, I already have a wireless switch, so I use it to make 360 wireless, as I did with PS2. So that is no big deal to me. Besides most people that played PS2 or XB online, prob has it connected wireless anyway.

which means you payed more to make your systems cost more right.i believe the wireless adapter is $90-100 extra right.they added the blu-ray drive for a few reasons to give developers more space to make bigger games in high def 720p,1080i and1080p(I know their is only like 4 games that are going to be in 1080p but when developers get used to the technolgy they'll start having all their games in 1080p.adding the blu-ray drive also gets their high def dvd movie player in a lot more homes then toshiba currently has, they said they would like to have 4 million ps3's sold by the end of 2006 that's a whole lot more then what toshiba has currently sold of their hd-dvd players 15,000 so far and seem to be taking their sweet time getting more on the market.
I have also heard rumors that through the wireless or the ir readers on the ps3 and sony psp their working with logictech to turn the psp into a extremely cool home theater remote that can control everything you have through downloads via internet wouldn't that be awesome i think so.I mean they are going to put everything you can possibley think of in that psp GPS,video chat,evetoy,the locationfree player,rss feeds both video and audio,ps1 games,flash games,lots and lots of stuff.i love new gear.
xbox 360

ps3

EddieDZ · 05-12-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cygnus

Yeah but the big difference is this: with 360 you have the choice of getting the HD-DVD, but you don't with sony. Its just yet another tactic by sony to force their proprietary crap on consumers. They arrogantly think consumers will buy PS3 at whatever amount its price. Regarding the 360's lack of wifi, I already have a wireless switch, so I use it to make 360 wireless, as I did with PS2. So that is no big deal to me. Besides most people that played PS2 or XB online, prob has it connected wireless anyway.

they didnt force anything on consumers.. the reason they wanted to use the blu-ray drive is obviously not only for the high def movies but the fact that you can fit 50GB of data on a dual layer blu-ray disc... now compare that to "the whopping" 8GB on a dual layer DVD which 360 uses.. theres no comparison... in the years to come the 360 just wont be able to hold enough data to match to the PS3 games, i can see the future now: a developer makes a multiplatform game for 360 and PS3.. the PS3 will be one BD disc and the 360 well...that same game might just be like 3-5DVD's long LOL! or they might just have to downgrade the graphics due to the lack of space.

so in the long run im super glad they kept the blu-ray drive.. its the nex-gen.. NOT little O' DVD drives. plus with the PS3 whoever wants to watch high def movies doesnt have to purchase something seperate for like $300.

by the way does anyone know whats the media format for the Wii??? DVD??????? mini disc???

ViperVenom18 · 05-12-2006, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieDZ

they didnt force anything on consumers.. the reason they wanted to use the blu-ray drive is obviously not only for the high def movies but the fact that you can fit 50GB of data on a dual layer blu-ray disc... now compare that to "the whopping" 8GB on a dual layer DVD which 360 uses.. theres no comparison... in the years to come the 360 just wont be able to hold enough data to match to the PS3 games, i can see the future now: a developer makes a multiplatform game for 360 and PS3.. the PS3 will be one BD disc and the 360 well...that same game might just be like 3-5DVD's long LOL! or they might just have to downgrade the graphics due to the lack of space.

so in the long run im super glad they kept the blu-ray drive.. its the nex-gen.. NOT little O' DVD drives. plus with the PS3 whoever wants to watch high def movies doesnt have to purchase something seperate for like $300.

by the way does anyone know whats the media format for the Wii??? DVD??????? mini disc???

DVD, just like 360.

Cygnus · 05-12-2006, 06:35 PM

You have fallen for the PS3 hype. I guess some will never learn... If you think games will need 50GB or even 25GB for actual gaming, then you do not understand game development..unless you want HD cut scenes. Oblivion has shown that DVD has plenty of space for next-gen graphics, hours voice acting, of 5.1 surround sound, and most importantly over 200 hours of game play (the average game has less than 15 hours). People thought that the game was going to require 4 DVDs, but lo and behold the fanboys were wrong: only 1 was needed. If you understand compression technology, BR is even overkill for HD movies. Mpeg 4 is a much more efficient (shall I say "next-gen?

) HD codec than mpeg2. As Public Enemy would say "Don't believe the (Sony) hype"

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieDZ

they didnt force anything on consumers.. the reason they wanted to use the blu-ray drive is obviously not only for the high def movies but the fact that you can fit 50GB of data on a dual layer blu-ray disc... now compare that to "the whopping" 8GB on a dual layer DVD which 360 uses.. theres no comparison... in the years to come the 360 just wont be able to hold enough data to match to the PS3 games, i can see the future now: a developer makes a multiplatform game for 360 and PS3.. the PS3 will be one BD disc and the 360 well...that same game might just be like 3-5DVD's long LOL! or they might just have to downgrade the graphics due to the lack of space.

so in the long run im super glad they kept the blu-ray drive.. its the nex-gen.. NOT little O' DVD drives. plus with the PS3 whoever wants to watch high def movies doesnt have to purchase something seperate for like $300.

by the way does anyone know whats the media format for the Wii??? DVD??????? mini disc???

ViperVenom18 · 05-12-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cygnus

You have fallen for the PS3 hype. I guess some will never learn... If you think games will need 50GB or even 25GB for actual gaming, then you do not understand game development..unless you want HD cut scenes. Oblivion has shown that DVD has plenty of space for next-gen graphics, hours voice acting, of 5.1 surround sound, and most importantly over 200 hours of game play (the average game has less than 15 hours). People thought that the game was going to require 4 DVDs, but lo and behold the fanboys were wrong: only 1 was needed. If you understand compression technology, BR is even overkill for HD movies. Mpeg 4 is a much more efficient (shall I say "next-gen?

) HD codec than mpeg2. As Public Enemy would say "Don't believe the (Sony) hype"

As Metallica would say... "Sad but trueeee"

Agreed.

siccivic420 · 05-13-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cygnus

You have fallen for the PS3 hype. I guess some will never learn... If you think games will need 50GB or even 25GB for actual gaming, then you do not understand game development..unless you want HD cut scenes. Oblivion has shown that DVD has plenty of space for next-gen graphics, hours voice acting, of 5.1 surround sound, and most importantly over 200 hours of game play (the average game has less than 15 hours). People thought that the game was going to require 4 DVDs, but lo and behold the fanboys were wrong: only 1 was needed. If you understand compression technology, BR is even overkill for HD movies. Mpeg 4 is a much more efficient (shall I say "next-gen?

) HD codec than mpeg2. As Public Enemy would say "Don't believe the (Sony) hype"

first of all oblivion wasn't in 1080p which would have taken more space.yes i know that only a few games on the ps3 are going to due 1080p so far but with more experence with the hardware in a few years all the games will be at 1080p.the xbox 360 can't do dolby digital true HD(lossless) surround sound but it could that would take up a lot more space than their dvd's could handle,but some people would probley so what,but atleast sony's ps3 is going to be future proof for us gear freaks and gear freaks of the future.
xbox 360

PS3

Wii

Cygnus · 05-14-2006, 08:34 PM

Meh, my 57in HDTV supports 1080i and I am happy. I am not going to rush out and buy another TV just for a console or for the hollyweird elites. Besides only a few TVs support 1080p the vast majority of TVs people have are 1080i as well. And lets not forget, the majority of consumers don't have HDTV. Until I see side by side the benefits of 1080p over 1080i for gaming (and movies), I will take the PS3 hype with a grain of salt. I watched gamespot's "hi res" coverage of sony and M$ presentations, PS3 games were weak graphically or CG.

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Originally Posted by siccivic420

first of all oblivion wasn't in 1080p which would have taken more space.yes i know that only a few games on the ps3 are going to due 1080p so far but with more experence with the hardware in a few years all the games will be at 1080p.the xbox 360 can't do dolby digital true HD(lossless) surround sound but it could that would take up a lot more space than their dvd's could handle,but some people would probley so what,but atleast sony's ps3 is going to be future proof for us gear freaks and gear freaks of the future.
xbox 360

PS3

Wii

05-11-2006, 08:26 AM	#1
Cygnus The Bringer of Balance Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,798	Gamespy on PS3 @ E3 GameSpy's 5 Editors have all trounced Sony's showing. So much for the "next-generation starts with us", hunh Kaz Hirai(sp?).. Sony's Score: C, D, C+, D+, C Nintendo: B, B+, B+, B, B Microsoft: B+, B, B-, A-, NA http://ps2.gamespy.com/articles/706/706921p1.html Bryn Williams (EIC, Console) Sony Being the first out of the gate is sometimes a good thing. And other times it's not. The big focus for Sony this year was obviously the PlayStation 3. And while there's no doubt in my mind that the platform is extremely competent and exceptionally powerful, I couldn't help feel a little disappointed after the presentation had wrapped up. The biggest bummer was the lack of "must-see" games on display. Sure, Heavenly Sword made a great impression on the crowd, and the demo played very well indeed, but other than that and perhaps Resistance: Fall of Man, I felt like Sony failed to capitalize on its opportunity. I also truly believe that the price point announced for the hardware was a blow to morale as well. I have a hard time believing that the average or casual gamer is going to want to blow $700+ for a PS3 and a few games at time of launch. It's just too costly. I understand that cutting edge technology comes at a price, but both Nintendo and Microsoft's machines cost considerably less. Aside from the rather dry delivery of the presentation in general, there were some cool nuggets that filtered through. I really think Sony is going to have its act together in terms of a decent, functional online system for the PS3 and PSP (it might even give Xbox Live a run for its money), and I also think the direction of the PSP is going to help the company keep its foot in the handheld market. At the end of the day, this is the PlayStation 3 we're talking about -- and it's a very powerful brand to be sure. It's going to be really interesting to see how well the hardware is adopted when it launches at the end of the year. Sony's Final Grade: C Gerald Villoria (Associate Console Editor) Sony It all began for us this year at Sony's press conference. Not only did the event start late, it ran on for what seemed like forever, thanks to countless PowerPoint slides and glowing recaps of the success of Sony's previous two consoles. Once they finally got around to showing us the games, I was underwhelmed. Gran Turismo HD, despite a gloriously detailed Grand Canyon track, gave me the impression of being a glorified tech demonstration. Games like Warhawk, Genji 2, and Resistance: Fall of Man just failed to really give me the impression that the powerful PS3 was capable of truly significant graphical upgrades over what we've seen on the Xbox 360. A trailer for Metal Gear Solid 4 drew lots of applause from the fans, but I would have liked to see some gameplay footage. The exception to this was Heavenly Sword, which blew me away. As David so succinctly stated in his preview, this game plays like God of War on steroids. I played through the full E3 demo and got a good look at the great depth behind the game's combat system. With so many attacks, counters, and nifty finishers at your disposal, all things are pointing to this one being a must-play. That didn't save the conference from being a huge disappointment to me, though, capped off by the outrageous pricing announcement. Will consumers be willing to pay close to a thousand dollars for a console, an extra controller, and a couple games? I sure wouldn't. Sony's Final Grade: D Miguel Lopez (MMO Editor) Sony No question about it: Sony had some sick exclusive games on show, many of which I'm personally excited about playing. I'm a consummate Metal Gear fan, and chances are, I'll be playing MGS4 on PS3 long before I'll see it on a more, err, considerately-priced console. Same with Virtua Fighter 5, though I'd be surprised to see that on another platform, period. Which brings us to the ugly, unavoidable topic. Cash money. Sony wants a lot of my money for a PS3, and frankly, I'm not sure if I'm prepared to part ways with it. Sure, I'm in a privileged position; there will be a PS3 at GameSpy's offices, and at worst, I'll just have to fight with my colleagues in order to spend some time with it. But for the average gamer, $500-600 is a lot of money, and I could very well see many people passing on it simply because they can't justify the expense. This brings up some interesting questions -- are game consoles going to require the same level of investment as PCs from here on out? I accept the fact that the PS3 will be the most technologically sophisticated console at the time of its release. But does that justify the fact that Sony is making gamers stretch so far beyond their means? I'm just not going to think about this too much, and allow myself to get excited about the games as they emerge. Hopefully, by the time the system's release comes around, I'll have won the lottery or something. Sony's Final Grade: C+ Will Tuttle (Console Editor) Sony Wow, where to start. Well, actually, I guess I should start out with the positives. Heavenly Sword looks like an absolute blast, like a more insanely frenetic version of God of War. I got a chance to play Resistance: Fall of Man, and while it doesn't really bring very many new elements to the FPS genre, it looks like it'll feature some intense battlefield action. At this point, the game I'm most looking forward to is Assassin's Creed by Ubisoft, but we unfortunately only got to see it in pre-rendered trailer form. OK, now for the bad. I hope you've got a comfortable seat, because there are a lot of them. Aside from Heavenly Sword, there wasn't a single title that made me think "Damn, I gotta get me one of those," and even that game mainly made me look forward to the inevitable God of War 3. And what's the deal with that insane price point? I mean, Sony's been saying for months that the system will be "expensive," but that hefty price tag still felt like a slap in the face. Coming into the show, I was sure that Sony had something big in store for us, but the gyroscopic controller felt like either a rushed response to Nintendo's Wii or... well, that's probably exactly what it was. Sony's Final Grade: D+ David Hodgson (Freelancer) Sony Highlights: Aside from Ken Kutaragi's Colonel Saunders outfit, the Sony press conference, which showcased much but sometimes forgot to show the real-deal gameplay goods, gave us two games that rose above the hype: Resistance: Fall of Man, and Heavenly Sword. I'm officially excited about the PS3 after witnessing mass alien grub infestation carnage with 1950s ordnance and Soul Calibur-meets-God of War weapon combat that's as madcap as it is enthralling. But am I $720 dollars excited? Lowlights: Gran Turismo HD was perhaps not the best example to showcase the supposed power of the PS3; it wasn't clear enough that this was a stop-gap demo, as the trees were as two-dimensional as the crowds; watch the press conference video on a regular television, and you'd be wondering why this was even made. But the biggest problem was what Sony chose to "forget" to mention: a cut-down version of the console that still costs half a grand (no SD card slot? Great!), the omitting of a second HDMI port and a hastily removed rumble feature for the joypad. Then there's the price that means you'll be forking out almost $1000 for a system with a couple of games and peripherals... ouch. But the biggest concern? No shows for Killzone and Motorstorm, and obviously pre-rendered footage for much of the line-up. Eight Days looks rad, but I'm not sure that was real gameplay, was it? I'm slightly numbed: I expected more. Sony's Final Grade: C

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True2daGame True2daGame Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 276	Hey Vipe I agree ,thats something we both finnally agree on.LOL __________________ What Ever I Touch....Turns Hi Def In My Clutch 360{HDMI} /HD Player Mitsubishi 65" DLP 1080P Motorola DCH6416 HDMI Dual Tuner Cable Receiver/DVR Onkyo TX-SR605 Receiver Onkyo SKS-HT740 7.1 Speaker System

05-11-2006, 07:07 PM	#5
ChaosMan1014 Scrumdidlyumptious Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 851	I'm only going to address the 60GB bundle here so please read with care: Not that I'm rushing to defend SONY because honestly I think I enjoyed Wii's conference best but you have to conisder a couple of things. It's high def thus will automaticaly cost more than Wii. While 360 is also high def it does not have a Hi Def movie player built in. Their HD DVD drive will cost a MINIMUM of 100 dollars. Which means for the premium package, now the only package OFFICIALLY supported my M$, you will end up paying 500 dollars. Add the fact there is no wifi (you must buy this separately) or memory readers (okay maybe it's a little eccentric but it can count) or a 60GB hard drive that the premium bundle (as opposed to the 20GB bundle you'd have to be a retard to buy if you were to buy a PS3) currently standard with the system. This makes the PS3 really not THAT much more expensive than a "fully loaded" 360 sytem. __________________ If only we could develop a real Katamari... It would be the ultimate globe conquering tool! Consoles Currently Being Played PlayStation 3 60GB PSP Wii PlayStation 2 Phat Dreamcast

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05-11-2006, 02:51 PM	#2
EddieDZ The Taker of Balance Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saint John, NB Canada Posts: 3,610	give me a break.. theres PC gamers that pay over $600 for just a graphics card alone... the price is nothing, think about it its a blu-ray player too for godsake's lol..

05-11-2006, 04:45 PM	#3
ViperVenom18 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 641	Well yeah.. ths PS3 is a deal, but this is about there conference, which totally sucked ahrdcore. Where Nintendo's and Microsofts didn't. I have a 360, and really wanted to get a ps3, but so far I have no interest in it... I don't buy a console for dvd playback, but the games, and sony really is lacking there, besides mgs4. Sony is 99 percent hype, and the games that it has over the rest, aka gta and gt, either lacked (gt) or are now on different consoles (gta4 on 360) As of now, I have no reason to buy a ps3. I'm surprised to say that I'm lookin forward to buying a wii, and keeping my 360

05-11-2006, 09:18 PM	#6
EddieDZ The Taker of Balance Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saint John, NB Canada Posts: 3,610	personally i felt Sony's conference was not "beyond anything" either.. then again i feel neither where the other two, especiallies microsoft, blahh. Sony did show alot of gameplay footage, gave a date and price. the only good thing microsoft showed where gameplay footage of Gears of War(very sweet!) and an annoucement(with a not the greatest trailer) of Halo 3.. personally i feel that is about it, all the rest was just talk talk talk. on the other hand i personally think nintendos conference "WOWED" me the most... at first when i first saw the controller i was totally like "what the F~~~??!!" but after seeing the games and the way your suppose to use the controller.. i think with that controller alone its completely revolutionary!.. yea the Wii(funny name too lol) is not the most powerful console nor are they doing HD, however the games did look better then current gamecube games and on top of that personally the best thing they announced was Zelda as a launch title.. OH MY GOD WOW!!!! that right there is going to sell the console plus throw in Mario galaxy for a launch title too and you got one hell of a deal.. oh wait did i mention its going to be alot less then the PS3 and 360... YIKES. I am a sony(playstation) fan hardcore but i feel bad this time around.. i for one will more then likely(95%+) not be getting the PS3 on launch date OR anytime soon.. i'll wait for the price to drop thank you very much and i'll wait for a killer app game(MGS4, GT4, FFXIII etc), though i must admit some games are look very hot like heavenly sword, resistance and warhawk.