OT:Google / Android questions

jkkyler · 12-31-2012, 08:59 AM

So I picked my new android tablet up on fri night and started to set it up over the weekend. It is awesome - just what I had hoped for. One thing though since it is an android tablet part of the set-up process was synching it to my google account but my phone is also synched to my google account and so it put all the apps from my phone onto my tablet. Is there a way to keep the synch/back-ups separate. You would think there would be some sort of id associated with each. Is there a setting somewhere I can set? My google account has pretty much been dormant since I got my phone, that is the only reason I even had my google account but I want to start using my tablet for scheduling , calendar e-mail, office stuff etc. and getting the full experience.

awol · 12-31-2012, 09:13 AM

Maybe through the Google Play portion of your Google Dashboard?

When you open your gmail, there should be a black bar across the top with "PLAY" as an option. This is where all your purchases should be located. As to whether there's a way to say "This is phone vs this is tablet" I don't know.

jkkyler · 12-31-2012, 09:20 AM

Thanks AWOL, I'll start there I guess if I had to I could have all my phone stuff on my tablet and just not have the app icons on the desktop but my tablet has a lot more memory than my phona and sooner or later there will be a conflict if I can't keep them separate.

**rbinck** · 12-31-2012, 09:28 AM

I set up a tablet account separate from my google/youtube account. It seemed to be the only way. I had to reset the tablet back to factory to redo the account. Hopefully you may find a better way for others who run into this issue.

marcallo · 12-31-2012, 10:38 AM

I would imagine that you can selectively remove apps you don't want. I would prefer to keeptthem linked because of the calendar.

railven · 12-31-2012, 12:12 PM

Sort of what Marc is saying. The sync function is to keep all apps that share any date/time/subscription tied together. If you don't want to autoload all the crap, don't auto-sync your device.

I use my G-Mail account on 3 devices, none of which ever auto download/synch with my main account, however, I also don't have all my contact infos spread across (which is fine with me.)

jkkyler · 12-31-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by railven

Sort of what Marc is saying. The sync function is to keep all apps that share any date/time/subscription tied together. If you don't want to autoload all the crap, don't auto-sync your device.

I use my G-Mail account on 3 devices, none of which ever auto download/synch with my main account, however, I also don't have all my contact infos spread across (which is fine with me.)

Yea that makes more sense. After looking carefully not everything was duplicated - just those sharing info like you noted. Had some time this afternoon since we only worked half day today and managed to get pretty much everything like I wanted. Only thing is even though flash is no longer supported on mobile devices it still works but only in stock browsers not in chrome which I want to use. Oh well - for those few instances I will just have to switch. The new speech function though not as robust as Apples Suri is kind of neat.

marcallo · 12-31-2012, 02:02 PM

What speech function? I have Jelly Bean on my GNexus and I have no idea what you're talking about.

awol · 12-31-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jkkyler

Yea that makes more sense. After looking carefully not everything was duplicated - just those sharing info like you noted. Had some time this afternoon since we only worked half day today and managed to get pretty much everything like I wanted. Only thing is even though flash is no longer supported on mobile devices it still works but only in stock browsers not in chrome which I want to use. Oh well - for those few instances I will just have to switch. The new speech function though not as robust as Apples Suri is kind of neat.

I like it much better than Siri actually. They enabled it on the Google native app for iOS. It is significantly faster and drastically more accurate in the results it throws back.

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Originally Posted by marcallo

What speech function? I have Jelly Bean on my GNexus and I have no idea what you're talking about.

On a Nexus device, I think you simply tap on your "all apps" icon and swipe up.

jkkyler · 12-31-2012, 05:17 PM

On mine, there is a little microphone in the upper left hand corner next to the word google. It looks just like the one you use for speech to text. You tap on it then speak a query and it returns results - often it will speak them back but if it can't it will do a google search.

Example if you ask how many feet in a mile the voice will reply back 5280 or ask what is Barack O'bama's birthday and it will tell you but if you were to say "tell me a joke" while suri would tell a joke this would just list the google search of 'joke telling' I don't know if it will put stuff on your calendar if you ask I am just beginning to experiment with it. I found out about it from an on-line video - "what is new and cool in Jelly Bean"

marcallo · 12-31-2012, 06:25 PM

Okay turns out I do know what you're talking about. It's not nearly as robustas Suri .

awol · 12-31-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jkkyler

I found out about it from an on-line video - "what is new and cool in Jelly Bean"

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Originally Posted by marcallo

Okay turns out I do know what you're talking about. It's not nearly as robustas Suri .

Jkkyler, I think what you're referring to is Google Now. It's Google's version of Siri. And it's slick. Just the voice recognition alone works better than Siri.

Maybe the Mayan's were just off by a few days or it's going to get frosty down below, but I'm about to acknowledge a benefit of Android/Google over Siri/Apple.

I don't use Siri. She's generally useless in all honesty. She will "tell" you a really lame joke ("two iphones walk into a bar, I forget the rest"). She will tell you where to find the nearest prostitute. And she will tell you where to bury a body. And yes, she will keep you moderately entertained with quirky answers to questions like these. But in all honesty, she just doesn't work all that well when it comes to productivity. I have three different calendars. She can only schedule things to one of them. And even with that, it's only the default. She's also very very slow. Making the trip to Apple's servers and back apparently takes a while. Even the voice recognition is done at the server level. Google's is too, but I'm not kidding when I say it's a LOT faster.

Right now, Google Now is only available on Nexus devices (I think...). But when it's broadly released, it's going to be great, and Apple will really have to step up their game. Again.

jkkyler · 12-31-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by awol

Jkkyler, I think what you're referring to is Google Now. It's Google's version of Siri. And it's slick. Just the voice recognition alone works better than Siri.

Maybe the Mayan's were just off by a few days or it's going to get frosty down below, but I'm about to acknowledge a benefit of Android/Google over Siri/Apple.

I don't use Siri. She's generally useless in all honesty. She will "tell" you a really lame joke ("two iphones walk into a bar, I forget the rest"). She will tell you where to find the nearest prostitute. And she will tell you where to bury a body. And yes, she will keep you moderately entertained with quirky answers to questions like these. But in all honesty, she just doesn't work all that well when it comes to productivity. I have three different calendars. She can only schedule things to one of them. And even with that, it's only the default. She's also very very slow. Making the trip to Apple's servers and back apparently takes a while. Even the voice recognition is done at the server level. Google's is too, but I'm not kidding when I say it's a LOT faster.

Right now, Google Now is only available on Nexus devices (I think...). But when it's broadly released, it's going to be great, and Apple will really have to step up their game. Again.

I don't have a nexus device - I have an ASUS android tablet running jelly bean

marcallo · 01-01-2013, 08:32 AM

I think Google now is Jelly Bean specific not Nexus. If I spent more time with the program it would probably be more useful. It seems to learn as you use it.

awol · 01-01-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by marcallo

I think Google now is Jelly Bean specific not Nexus. If I spent more time with the program it would probably be more useful. It seems to learn as you use it.

Hmmm... That's good to know.

I'm going to have to get hubby to install on his new(ish) EVO.

12-31-2012, 08:59 AM	#1
jkkyler I bleed for HD Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,638	OT:Google / Android questions So I picked my new android tablet up on fri night and started to set it up over the weekend. It is awesome - just what I had hoped for. One thing though since it is an android tablet part of the set-up process was synching it to my google account but my phone is also synched to my google account and so it put all the apps from my phone onto my tablet. Is there a way to keep the synch/back-ups separate. You would think there would be some sort of id associated with each. Is there a setting somewhere I can set? My google account has pretty much been dormant since I got my phone, that is the only reason I even had my google account but I want to start using my tablet for scheduling , calendar e-mail, office stuff etc. and getting the full experience. __________________ HT- Panasonic TH-50PZ800U 1080p plasma, Panasonic PT-AX200u LCD projector, Elite Vmax Electric 100' screen, Onkyo TX-NR905 AVR, Paradigm Titan Monitor v5 fronts, Paradigm CC-190 v6 center, Paradigm Atom Monitors v5 surrounds(x4), HSU research VTF-2 sub, xbox360+hd-dvd player ,Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray, Dtv H21 HD-DVR Bedroom: Insignia NS-lcd26, Samsung BDP-1400 blu-ray Den - Vizio 20" 1080p LCD + Samsung BD-p1600 Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Albert Einstein Last edited by jkkyler; 12-31-2012 at 09:19 AM.*

12-31-2012, 09:20 AM	#3
jkkyler I bleed for HD Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,638	Thanks AWOL, I'll start there I guess if I had to I could have all my phone stuff on my tablet and just not have the app icons on the desktop but my tablet has a lot more memory than my phona and sooner or later there will be a conflict if I can't keep them separate. __________________ HT- Panasonic TH-50PZ800U 1080p plasma, Panasonic PT-AX200u LCD projector, Elite Vmax Electric 100' screen, Onkyo TX-NR905 AVR, Paradigm Titan Monitor v5 fronts, Paradigm CC-190 v6 center, Paradigm Atom Monitors v5 surrounds(x4), HSU research VTF-2 sub, xbox360+hd-dvd player ,Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray, D*tv H21 HD-DVR Bedroom: Insignia NS-lcd26, Samsung BDP-1400 blu-ray Den - Vizio 20" 1080p LCD + Samsung BD-p1600 Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Albert Einstein

12-31-2012, 09:28 AM	#4
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,636	I set up a tablet account separate from my google/youtube account. It seemed to be the only way. I had to reset the tablet back to factory to redo the account. Hopefully you may find a better way for others who run into this issue. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

12-31-2012, 05:17 PM	#10
jkkyler I bleed for HD Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,638	On mine, there is a little microphone in the upper left hand corner next to the word google. It looks just like the one you use for speech to text. You tap on it then speak a query and it returns results - often it will speak them back but if it can't it will do a google search. Example if you ask how many feet in a mile the voice will reply back 5280 or ask what is Barack O'bama's birthday and it will tell you but if you were to say "tell me a joke" while suri would tell a joke this would just list the google search of 'joke telling' I don't know if it will put stuff on your calendar if you ask I am just beginning to experiment with it. I found out about it from an on-line video - "what is new and cool in Jelly Bean" __________________ HT- Panasonic TH-50PZ800U 1080p plasma, Panasonic PT-AX200u LCD projector, Elite Vmax Electric 100' screen, Onkyo TX-NR905 AVR, Paradigm Titan Monitor v5 fronts, Paradigm CC-190 v6 center, Paradigm Atom Monitors v5 surrounds(x4), HSU research VTF-2 sub, xbox360+hd-dvd player ,Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray, D*tv H21 HD-DVR Bedroom: Insignia NS-lcd26, Samsung BDP-1400 blu-ray Den - Vizio 20" 1080p LCD + Samsung BD-p1600 Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Albert Einstein

12-31-2012, 09:13 AM	#2
awol I'm Fabulous. Obviously. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 7,596	Maybe through the Google Play portion of your Google Dashboard? When you open your gmail, there should be a black bar across the top with "PLAY" as an option. This is where all your purchases should be located. As to whether there's a way to say "This is phone vs this is tablet" I don't know.

12-31-2012, 10:38 AM	#5
marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,671	I would imagine that you can selectively remove apps you don't want. I would prefer to keeptthem linked because of the calendar.

12-31-2012, 12:12 PM	#6
railven PLS C SIG: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,902	Sort of what Marc is saying. The sync function is to keep all apps that share any date/time/subscription tied together. If you don't want to autoload all the crap, don't auto-sync your device. I use my G-Mail account on 3 devices, none of which ever auto download/synch with my main account, however, I also don't have all my contact infos spread across (which is fine with me.)

12-31-2012, 02:02 PM	#8
marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,671	What speech function? I have Jelly Bean on my GNexus and I have no idea what you're talking about.

12-31-2012, 06:25 PM	#11
marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,671	Okay turns out I do know what you're talking about. It's not nearly as robustas Suri .

01-01-2013, 08:32 AM	#14
marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,671	I think Google now is Jelly Bean specific not Nexus. If I spent more time with the program it would probably be more useful. It seems to learn as you use it.