How Windows 8 Rewrites the Rules of PC Gaming.

eiger · 12-06-2012, 09:35 AM

http://www.pcworld.com/article/20143...pc-gaming.html

zip2play · 12-06-2012, 09:53 AM

I've come to hate the word REWRITE!

marcallo · 12-06-2012, 11:31 AM

Color me unconvinced. This all seems very "casual" orientated. Core gaming is still, in my opinion, all about controller, graphics, and gameplay/storytelling. And my controller I mean the game controller. That's why there's 200 dollar Mice and 300 dollar gaming keyboards. But Kinect in SKyrim where you SHOUT is considered a goof.

jkkyler · 12-06-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by marcallo

Color me unconvinced. This all seems very "casual" orientated. Core gaming is still, in my opinion, all about controller, graphics, and gameplay/storytelling. And my controller I mean the game controller. That's why there's 200 dollar Mice and 300 dollar gaming keyboards. But Kinect in SKyrim where you SHOUT is considered a goof.

Agreed - I don't think casual gaming is what is driving the pc gaming industry (handhelds and tablets are another category altogether) and from a game studio/dev standpoint, win 8 especially with the metro UI and the beginnings of M$ walled garden is certainly not welcome.

PS To really see gaming change you will have to wait on OUYA

railven · 12-06-2012, 12:16 PM

This article is hinting at what I was saying in another thread. This is Microsoft's chance to really put DirectX in a place where NO ONE will ever touch it.

If Microsoft makes the tools and developers use them (properly), pricing would be the last little morsel of detail but can you guys imagine this:

You buy a game for PC, it uses some new Microsoft DX API with multiplatform technology. For, just to use a number, $5 you can buy a mobile license. Now this game works on your tablet/smartphone if it is x86 compatible with proper hardware requirements. Say another $5 and you can now play this game on your Xbox.

Microsoft getting Xbox in everyone's house is the only company that can do this right now. They have the PC install base, and now a strong console install base, but they have to make a strong mobile install base.

There are a few games that I've played on my PC and my Note 2, the controls are a little different but the games are the same. These are mostly click-story games, but slowly I can see how smart control design, BT controllers, and the sort can easily make games cross the canyon.

Of course, since everyone will want money I can see this going no where (fast), but the idea is a good one. They just need to garner the support.

awol · 12-06-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by railven

There are a few games that I've played on my PC and my Note 2, the controls are a little different but the games are the same.

I had no idea there was an Android version of WoW.

Razor05 · 12-06-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by awol

I had no idea there was an Android version of WoW.

Lol me either.

Pinoy · 12-06-2012, 02:52 PM

So do we finally get Gears 2+ and Halo on PC? If not...

Mase · 12-06-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcallo

Color me unconvinced. This all seems very "casual" orientated. Core gaming is still, in my opinion, all about controller, graphics, and gameplay/storytelling. And my controller I mean the game controller. That's why there's 200 dollar Mice and 300 dollar gaming keyboards. But Kinect in SKyrim where you SHOUT is considered a goof.

That maybe what core gaming is but casual gaming is what is driving the market right now. Look at the Wii and the hundreds of social/mobile gaming devs out there who are making money hand over fist.

The Wii has been somewhat dead the last 2 years and it still has a rather large lead because of the casual crowd.

There is just not as much money in core gaming as there used to be. Games cost too much to make these days and require too many copies to be sold to make a profit. Look at the closures we have had of late from core gaming devs.

marcallo · 12-06-2012, 08:03 PM

Then I guess in the next 5 years I won't be a gamer anymore? I don't know what else to say. I hope there will always be core games and pc parts, but maybe it's a dying industry. 35mm and Kodachrome went away, perhaps too will the desktop computer.

railven · 12-07-2012, 05:55 AM

Traditional games aren't dying, they're sort of evolving beyond a KB+M or living room setting.

I have one of these:
http://www.powera.com/moga

And I'm telling you, right now it is fucking cool. I'm currently only playing emulators, but can you imagine with Windows 8 if full PC games can scale to Smartphones/Tablets? The hardware is getting there, I came across this game (didn't even know about it until I read the new iPad4 review):

+ YouTube Video

Clearly the hardware can support more than just Angry Birds and the junk.

Devs just need the motivation to make decent multiplatform games, and I feel Microsoft is in a great position to actually do it (and in the process solidify Direct X as the GO-TO API for game development.)

Mase · 12-07-2012, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcallo

Then I guess in the next 5 years I won't be a gamer anymore? I don't know what else to say. I hope there will always be core games and pc parts, but maybe it's a dying industry. 35mm and Kodachrome went away, perhaps too will the desktop computer.

No, it wont be that drastic, we just wont have as many core games to look forward to. Most of the core games we love now have been casualized and hopefully they wont further dumb them down.

I don't mind the casual aspects of most games but I have my limits...

jkkyler · 12-07-2012, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by railven

Traditional games aren't dying, they're sort of evolving beyond a KB+M or living room setting.

I have one of these:
http://www.powera.com/moga

And I'm telling you, right now it is fucking cool. I'm currently only playing emulators, but can you imagine with Windows 8 if full PC games can scale to Smartphones/Tablets? The hardware is getting there, I came across this game (didn't even know about it until I read the new iPad4 review):

+ YouTube Video

Clearly the hardware can support more than just Angry Birds and the junk.

Devs just need the motivation to make decent multiplatform games, and I feel Microsoft is in a great position to actually do it (and in the process solidify Direct X as the GO-TO API for game development.)

Dude- that thing is awesome - just found a Christmas wish to add to my list.

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marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,624	Color me unconvinced. This all seems very "casual" orientated. Core gaming is still, in my opinion, all about controller, graphics, and gameplay/storytelling. And my controller I mean the game controller. That's why there's 200 dollar Mice and 300 dollar gaming keyboards. But Kinect in SKyrim where you SHOUT is considered a goof. GLOW, awol and TwoPlusTwo like this.

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railven PLS C SIG: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,501	This article is hinting at what I was saying in another thread. This is Microsoft's chance to really put DirectX in a place where NO ONE will ever touch it. If Microsoft makes the tools and developers use them (properly), pricing would be the last little morsel of detail but can you guys imagine this: You buy a game for PC, it uses some new Microsoft DX API with multiplatform technology. For, just to use a number, $5 you can buy a mobile license. Now this game works on your tablet/smartphone if it is x86 compatible with proper hardware requirements. Say another $5 and you can now play this game on your Xbox. Microsoft getting Xbox in everyone's house is the only company that can do this right now. They have the PC install base, and now a strong console install base, but they have to make a strong mobile install base. There are a few games that I've played on my PC and my Note 2, the controls are a little different but the games are the same. These are mostly click-story games, but slowly I can see how smart control design, BT controllers, and the sort can easily make games cross the canyon. Of course, since everyone will want money I can see this going no where (fast), but the idea is a good one. They just need to garner the support.

12-06-2012, 08:03 PM	#10
marcallo Two Words, No Refunds. Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,624	Then I guess in the next 5 years I won't be a gamer anymore? I don't know what else to say. I hope there will always be core games and pc parts, but maybe it's a dying industry. 35mm and Kodachrome went away, perhaps too will the desktop computer.