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Old 11-16-2012, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default ToysR'Us Xbox 360 w/Kinect Bundles for $99

Did the math on this, and despite the fact MS is still getting their money, this is still an awesome deal I think.

http://www.toysrus.com/shop/index.js...ader:Home-Page

I dont mind the small HD as Im not one to store a bunch on there and I would assume it can be upgraded later. Picking mine up tomorrow, being as my original 360 has been in pieces for the last 3 years lol. Need to get my Tiger Woods fix
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:08 AM   #2
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Wow, $15/month for XBL... Mine just renewed for $60/year, or $5/month. So you're paying $459 for an Xbox, Kinect, and 4gb HDD over the course of 2 years. A regular 4GB Kinect bundle is $249, plus $120 for 2 years of XBL, so you're paying an extra $90 in order to mortgage out this purchase over 2 years...

You basically just borrowed $369 for the console at 25% interest over 2 years.

Nice work!
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:28 AM   #3
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Wow, $15/month for XBL... Mine just renewed for $60/year, or $5/month. So you're paying $459 for an Xbox, Kinect, and 4gb HDD over the course of 2 years. A regular 4GB Kinect bundle is $249, plus $120 for 2 years of XBL, so you're paying an extra $90 in order to mortgage out this purchase over 2 years...

You basically just borrowed $369 for the console at 25% interest over 2 years.

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Basically, it's rent to own.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:40 AM   #4
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Wow, $15/month for XBL... Mine just renewed for $60/year, or $5/month. So you're paying $459 for an Xbox, Kinect, and 4gb HDD over the course of 2 years. A regular 4GB Kinect bundle is $249, plus $120 for 2 years of XBL, so you're paying an extra $90 in order to mortgage out this purchase over 2 years...

You basically just borrowed $369 for the console at 25% interest over 2 years.

Nice work!
For some a monthly fee is manageable (as awol pointed out RTO) while an up front cost of of $370 can be a tough pill to swallow a $99 up front with $15 a month is not so bad. Think college kids with a fixed income, I know some of my friends who used to pay monthly for XBL as $7 a month is in their budget but $60 up front was not. It did not make sense to me but everyone is different.

In the end its a scam like Rent to Own places but if its all people can afford (monthly costs vs up front) then choices are never a bad thing.
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For some a monthly fee is manageable (as awol pointed out RTO) while an up front cost of of $370 can be a tough pill to swallow a $99 up front with $15 a month is not so bad. Think college kids with a fixed income, I know some of my friends who used to pay monthly for XBL as $7 a month is in their budget but $60 up front was not. It did not make sense to me but everyone is different.

In the end its a scam like Rent to Own places but if its all people can afford (monthly costs vs up front) then choices are never a bad thing.
And we've discussed that there are probably more important financial priorities in a household if they're using this method to buy something like this. I get what you're saying about something more essential like a couch or a bed or something. But this is a luxury item. And so, IMO, is a complete rip-off and is an example of MS taking advantage of those who likely aren't reading the fine print or actually realizing real costs in their entirety.
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I forgot who originally ran this (Joystiq or Gamasutra) but they found out that this also includes the Microsoft 2 year extended warranty (or something of the sort) that is on it's own a $50-60 value (forgot the exact value.)

It covers everything for the console (such as scratched disc from titling the thing.) While some of here might not care for it, those who would buy this bundle should be aware of the warranty.

EDIT: I mention this because remember with RROD now not an issue, these units don't have the extended 3 year coverage the old systems have. I think they are now standard 90 days parts and labor and 1yr limited.

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And we've discussed that there are probably more important financial priorities in a household if they're using this method to buy something like this. I get what you're saying about something more essential like a couch or a bed or something. But this is a luxury item. And so, IMO, is a complete rip-off and is an example of MS taking advantage of those who likely aren't reading the fine print or actually realizing real costs in their entirety.
Rent to own places do equal business with electronics (TVs, Computers, etc) and furniture and that is a booming business. Which goes to show that a lot of people out there cannot afford large up front costs but have no problem with smaller monthly (or bi weekly) payments. Also who are you to say what is and isn't essential for somebody else? Yea I know its your opinion but why should it be Microsoft's fault for someone not reading the fine print?!

As I already mentioned its not for me and I would never recommend this to someone I know but what if a single mother wanted to make her kid happy this Christmas with an Xbox that she cant afford because it would be $300+ up front to do so. Maybe this way she can manage the small monthly payment. Priorities for me are not the same for you and who are we to force what we think is a priority onto others?

You are coming off like this HUGE cost is going to stop someone from paying thier bills...
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Rent to own places do equal business with electronics (TVs, Computers, etc) and furniture and that is a booming business. Which goes to show that a lot of people out there cannot afford large up front costs but have no problem with smaller monthly (or bi weekly) payments. Also who are you to say what is and isn't essential for somebody else? Yea I know its your opinion but why should it be Microsoft's fault for someone not reading the fine print?!

As I already mentioned its not for me and I would never recommend this to someone I know but what if a single mother wanted to make her kid happy this Christmas with an Xbox that she cant afford because it would be $300+ up front to do so. Maybe this way she can manage the small monthly payment. Priorities for me are not the same for you and who are we to force what we think is a priority onto others?

You are coming off like this HUGE cost is going to stop someone from paying thier bills...
I think it shows a lot of people are willing to play themselves out

It's okay as long as it's only an inch at a time!

Making payments only makes sense where it's a large, necessary purchase (IMO)
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Rent to own places do equal business with electronics (TVs, Computers, etc) and furniture and that is a booming business. Which goes to show that a lot of people out there cannot afford large up front costs but have no problem with smaller monthly (or bi weekly) payments. Also who are you to say what is and isn't essential for somebody else? Yea I know its your opinion but why should it be Microsoft's fault for someone not reading the fine print?!

As I already mentioned its not for me and I would never recommend this to someone I know but what if a single mother wanted to make her kid happy this Christmas with an Xbox that she cant afford because it would be $300+ up front to do so. Maybe this way she can manage the small monthly payment. Priorities for me are not the same for you and who are we to force what we think is a priority onto others?

You are coming off like this HUGE cost is going to stop someone from paying thier bills...
It's not MS's fault people don't read the fine print (makes me think of the SP episode Human CentiPad). But they are practicing what is in my opinion an unscrupulous business practices that prey on people who don't know or are too naive to think that someone wouldn't actually take advantage of them.

You think they're not. Fine. Good on you. I care more about people.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:13 PM   #10
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Making payments only makes sense where it's a large, necessary purchase (IMO)
This I completely agree with. Houses, cars and whores... The three necessities.

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It's not MS's fault people don't read the fine print (makes me think of the SP episode Human CentiPad). But they are practicing what is in my opinion an unscrupulous business practices that prey on people who don't know or are too naive to think that someone wouldn't actually take advantage of them.

You think they're not. Fine. Good on you. I care more about people.
I never said they weren't, I simply said how is it their fault?

Its like all rent to own places, Pawn shops, cash for gold or cash checking places that give payday loans. They exist because there are people who are willing to put up with it, its not because they do not know the fine print, they do. Maybe ignorance plays into it, I'm sure stupidity does and several other factors but I cannot blame those companies as there is a market for it.
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I never said they weren't, I simply said how is it their fault?
Um.... because they're the ones doing it. They're doing it so therefor it's their "fault".

Thought that was pretty self-explanatory.
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For some a monthly fee is manageable (as awol pointed out RTO) while an up front cost of of $370 can be a tough pill to swallow a $99 up front with $15 a month is not so bad. Think college kids with a fixed income, I know some of my friends who used to pay monthly for XBL as $7 a month is in their budget but $60 up front was not. It did not make sense to me but everyone is different.

In the end its a scam like Rent to Own places but if its all people can afford (monthly costs vs up front) then choices are never a bad thing.
I'm not saying its the worst deal in the world, I'm just stating what it is; $100 down and the rest borrowed at 25%... Its like a credit card for people with really bad credit.
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Um.... because they're the ones doing it. They're doing it so therefor it's their "fault".

Thought that was pretty self-explanatory.
No you think its their fault and that they this is a shady practice, I said how can we blame them if there is a market that is willing to go for this..

Being Shady would not explain what they are doing, they clearly state (Microsoft) what you are paying up front and what the monthly fee is and for how long. If people cant figure this out for themselves why is Microsoft to blame?

I know you downgraded yourself to Apple fan but they are far worse than this. Once your Mac hits 2-3 years old it is essentially (there are some exceptions) no longer compatible with their new OS that is launched every year. Talk about shady practices.....

Its BS, with Windows you can have a PC that is 10+ years old that will load up Win 7, it may not be optimal but you can if you want. Mac, try again because once you hit that 3-4 years your $2k device is obsolete and pretty much useless (sensationalized statement).
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I'm not saying its the worst deal in the world, I'm just stating what it is; $100 down and the rest borrowed at 25%... Its like a credit card for people with really bad credit.
Exactly and those with really bad credit would be ideal for this, I would never advocate it but who I am I to tell someone else how to spend their money or force my ideology on what is an important purchase and what isn't.

Awol is okay with that though....
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I think I already went off on a tangent about this on another thread.
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