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Old 11-18-2009, 07:15 PM   #1
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Red face PS3 VGA Nominations... others too.

Ok, ok, ok... I know I'm going to get shit for this, but it's totally worth it.

This is for everybody who said that the only good games on the Wii are from Nintendo.

Here's the category for Best PS3 Game:

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BEST PS3 GAME
inFAMOUS (Sony Computer Entertainment / Sucker Punch)
Killzone 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment / Guerrilla Games)
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time (Sony Computer Entertainment / Insomniac Games)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Sony Computer Entertainment / Naughty Dog)
Apparently Sony is beginning to outshine 3rd parties as well.

Here's the rest of the nominations: http://kotaku.com/5407404/spike-vide...nees-announced

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Same case for the 360 selection except for Batman Arkham Asylum really though.
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Apparently Sony is beginning to outshine 3rd parties as well.
BEST PS3 GAME
inFAMOUS (Sony Computer Entertainment / Sucker Punch)
Killzone 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment / Guerrilla Games)
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time (Sony Computer Entertainment / Insomniac Games)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Sony Computer Entertainment / Naughty Dog)
arent all these games you just listed created by 3rd parties?
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arent all these games you just listed created by 3rd parties?
They are all by Sony first party devs.
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Same case for the 360 selection except for Batman Arkham Asylum really though.
And Left 4 Dead 2... that game isn't funded, published, or even paid for with exclusivity by Microsoft. There's literally nothing binding the two together aside from Valve's preference of the PC and 360.

Aside from that, though, this was largely just semantics, and I found it funny that there were no PS3 games in the list that weren't Sony games. Which is actually a good thing, but still funny.
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so they are development companys that was bought by Sony? kind of like Bungie was bought by Microsoft?

would M.A.G. made by Zipper Interactive also be listed as a 1st Party game by sony?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:38 AM   #7
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so they are development companys that was bought by Sony? kind of like Bungie was bought by Microsoft?

would M.A.G. made by Zipper Interactive also be listed as a 1st Party game by sony?
They are Sony-funded projects.

Same thing happens with Nintendo. Take Smash Bros. Brawl, for example, the game was not actually developed by Nintendo, but rather a company called Sora. Nintendo funded the game, however...

A lot of development actually happens like this where a larger company merely funds the game development.

That said, however, Naughty Dog, Zipper Interactive, and Guerrilla Games are all subsidiary companies of Sony. Insomniac and Sucker Punch are paid contractors I believe.
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so they are development companys that was bought by Sony? kind of like Bungie was bought by Microsoft?

would M.A.G. made by Zipper Interactive also be listed as a 1st Party game by sony?
I think in the name of stuff, these are considered 2nd party titles.

In all my years of reading and what not I've come to accept these as the terms, if anyone disagrees feel free to correct:

1st party - IP owned and published by the console maker and made internally by a owned console maker dev team. Examples: Metroid Prime, Motorstorm 2, and Halo 1/2/3.
2nd party - IP owned and published by the console maker but made externally by a third party dev team (contracted.) Examples: Metroid M (or whatever its called, the first Metroid being worked on by Team Ninja), Motorstorm 1 (before Sony bought the dev team), Halo 3: ODST
3rd party - IP owned by third party entity, dev team and publisher are irrelevant (as they'd contract whoever they want.)

Those are my understands. My question on Uncharted - who owns the IP Naughty or Sony?

Reminds me of the can of beans with Goldeneye. Nintendo owns that IP, but Rare owns the content. Or something of the sort.

EDIT: A 1st and 2nd party title won't ever see the light of day on an opposing console unless contracted and royalties are paid out the ass! 3rd party can go any way.

Gears of War is a great example of a 3rd party game. Microsoft owns the major characters, but Epic still owns the universe. They can draft a new story and new characters and publish it with whomever they want.
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cool. when i think of 1st party i think of Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. i dont think of some development company operating under a different name even though they are owned by said Console maker.
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Those are my understands. My question on Uncharted - who owns the IP Naughty or Sony?
Well technically Sony, because they own Naughty Dog... Not sure if a subsidiary corporation can ever independently own something that it's parent does not.
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Gears of War is a great example of a 3rd party game. Microsoft owns the major characters, but Epic still owns the universe. They can draft a new story and new characters and publish it with whomever they want.
Really? That's interesting. I never thought a game could/would be broken up like that.

I wonder if Microsoft or Epic owns the name Gears of War...
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after all this 2st party 3rd party talk i decided to look up what microsoft makes and here is a list of the 1st party companys:

Lionhead Studios
343 Industries
Rare LTD
Turn 10 Studios
Wingnut Interactive


sony's 1st party are:

Naughty Dog
Santa Monica Studio
Sony Bend
San Diego Studio
Incognito Entertainment
Zipper Interactive
Sony Online Entertainment
Eveolution Studio
Bigbig Studio
Guerrilla Games

bottom line..... SONY HAS WAY BETTER 1ST PARTY COMPANYS... WAY BETTER !!!!!
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Here are my picks (anyone up for avatar/sig bets? ):

GAME OF THE YEAR
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Publishing / Infinity Ward)


STUDIO OF THE YEAR
Infinity Ward

BEST SHOOTER
Halo 3: ODST (Microsoft Game Studios / Bungie)

BEST RPG
Borderlands (2K Games / Gearbox Software)

BEST FIGHTING GAME
Street Fighter IV (Capcom / Capcom/Dimps)

BEST INDIVIDUAL SPORTS GAME
UFC 2009 Undisputed (THQ / Yuke's Media Creations)

BEST HANDHELD GAME
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (Rockstar Games / Rockstar Leeds)

BEST GRAPHICS
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Sony Computer Entertainment / Naughty Dog)

BEST GAME BASED ON A MOVIE OR TV SHOW
X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged Edition (Activision Publishing / Raven Software)

BEST MUSIC GAME
The Beatles: Rock Band (MTV Games / Harmonix)

BEST DRIVING GAME
Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft Game Studios / Turn 10)

BEST ACTION ADVENTURE GAME
Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos Interactive - Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment / Rocksteady Studios)

BEST TEAM SPORTS GAME
Madden NFL 10 (Electronic Arts / EA Tiburon)

BEST SOUNDTRACK
The Beatles: Rock Band (MTV Games / Harmonix)

BEST XBOX 360 GAME
Halo 3: ODST (Microsoft Game Studios / Bungie)

BEST Wii GAME
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)

BEST PS3 GAME
Killzone 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment / Guerrilla Games)

BEST PC GAME
Left 4 Dead 2 (Valve)

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Publishing / Infinity Ward)

BEST MULTIPLAYER GAME
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Publishing / Infinity Ward)

BEST PERFORMANCE BY A HUMAN MALE
Samuel L. Jackson as Afro Samurai / Ninja Ninja in Afro Samurai (Surge)

BEST PERFORMANCE BY A HUMAN FEMALE
Megan Fox as Mikaela Banes (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen / Activision Publishing)

BEST CAST
Brütal Legend (Electronic Arts / Double Fine Productions)

BEST VOICE
Jack Black as Eddie Riggs (Brütal Legend / Electronic Arts)

BEST DOWNLOADABLE GAME
Battlefield 1943 (Electronic Arts / DICE)

BEST DLC
Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost & Damned (Rockstar Games / Rockstar North)

BEST INDEPENDENT GAME FUELED BY DEW
Trials HD (RedLynx)

MOST ANTICIPATED GAME
God of War III (Sony Computer Entertainment / SCE Studios Santa Monica)
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GLOW !!!! how can you not say the best DLC in 2009 was the nazi zombie maps added to COD W@W???
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after all this 2st party 3rd party talk i decided to look up what microsoft makes and here is a list of the 1st party companys:

Lionhead Studios
343 Industries
Rare LTD
Turn 10 Studios
Wingnut Interactive
Makes matter's worse when you realize that 343 industries only works on Halo spin-offs, and Wingnut interactive hasn't made a game yet that I'm aware of but was also created to work on a Halo game. I might be going out on a limb here but I'm gonna guess that the only ones worth anything on that list (game wise) are Rare and Turn 10 which are both awesome.

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sony's 1st party are:

Naughty Dog
Santa Monica Studio
Sony Bend
San Diego Studio
Incognito Entertainment
Zipper Interactive
Sony Online Entertainment
Eveolution Studio
Bigbig Studio
Guerrilla Games

bottom line..... SONY HAS WAY BETTER 1ST PARTY COMPANYS... WAY BETTER !!!!!
And I'm pretty sure there's more to that list, like Polyphony Digital, Team ICO, Clap Hanz, Studio London, Liverpool, and Cambridge, and a small slew of other 2nd party devs like Sucker Punch and Media Molecule.

Does Sony have more 1st and 2nd party devs than Ninty?!
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