Netflix streaming coming to PS3

Mase · 10-26-2009, 02:28 PM

This is the solution PS3 owners were needing, PlayOn was nice but for SD only content.. I know I have watched some pretty good movies on the streaming service that I normally would not have rented. I also got into some pretty good tv shows I somehow missed when they originally came out (Dexter, Californication and such)

I look forward to trying this service out..

**kamspy** · 10-26-2009, 03:01 PM

This is probably going to stop me from renewing my XBL Gold in ~8 months.

jjufon · 10-26-2009, 03:43 PM

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Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter believes the BD-Live technique was chosen to work around some exclusivity clauses between Netflix and Microsoft, but the real reason is unknown. We've contacted Netflix and Sony for comment on Pachter's hypothesis, and will update with their responses as they arrive."

mobiushky · 10-26-2009, 03:50 PM

from the source in the OP:

"Initially, watching movies instantly streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system will be enabled by a free, instant streaming Blu-ray disc that is being made available to all Netflix members. The free instant streaming disc leverages Blu-ray’s BD-Live™ technology to access the Internet and activate the Netflix user interface on the PS3 system, which must be online via Wi-Fi or Ethernet."

Implication is that while it will require a disc at first, at some point that will not be needed anymore.

Also, makes me wonder if only the PS3 will work with this... If the system is BD-Live, how do they prevent other BD-Live players from working? Not that they didn't, just a question.

jjufon · 10-26-2009, 03:57 PM

i think this is a short term solution until Sony can get software built to handle it.

**kamspy** · 10-26-2009, 04:03 PM

Funny Netflix jumping the contract with MS like that.

What are they gonna do? Drop the streaming?

Pinoy · 10-26-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiushky

from the source in the OP:

"Initially, watching movies instantly streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system will be enabled by a free, instant streaming Blu-ray disc that is being made available to all Netflix members. The free instant streaming disc leverages Blu-ray’s BD-Live™ technology to access the Internet and activate the Netflix user interface on the PS3 system, which must be online via Wi-Fi or Ethernet."

Implication is that while it will require a disc at first, at some point that will not be needed anymore.

Also, makes me wonder if only the PS3 will work with this... If the system is BD-Live, how do they prevent other BD-Live players from working? Not that they didn't, just a question.

That's a good question. I'm going to guess that the HDD in the PS3 is going to make a little bit of a difference, should be easier to buffer the movies slightly. Other than that I don't see any reason any other BD live capable player couldn't use it...

**kamspy** · 10-26-2009, 04:19 PM

I guess it depends if it's really using pure BD+.

Because otherwise I think it's kinda violating the deal between MS and Netflix.

It's probably just an app that could run fine without the disc, but it's needed to avoid some type of legal mumbo from MS.

I wonder how the ol EDD is reacting to this news.

scsa · 10-27-2009, 03:51 AM

I like how Cyn and a few others on here were laughing and loving that the netflix was and would always be exclusive to the 360 and yet here we go with the opposite. The funny thing is that netflix knows that only going to the 360 would of been stupid so instead of just taking the payoff that Microsoft gave them they decide lets find loopholes around this deal instead smart of them I say. Though does anyone know when the service should be available for the ps3.

pearl-drum-man · 10-27-2009, 06:31 AM

From Gamespot:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6238087...dlines;title;4

Q & A: VP Steve Swasey explains how video service works on the PS3; firmware update planned for 2010, will offer same options as PC and Xbox Live streaming.

After nearly a year of game-console exclusivity on the Xbox 360, Netflix branched out today. This morning, the company announced it was bringing its video streaming service to the PlayStation 3 starting next month.

PS3 owners will need a disc to access Netflix…for now.

Despite a different interface, the Netflix viewing experience will be essentially the same on the Xbox 360 and PS3, according to Steve Swasey, the company's vice president of corporate communication. However, accessing Netflix from the two consoles will differ. Whereas Netflix is integrated into the Xbox Live dashboard and firmware, accessing the service via the PS3 will require a Blu-ray disc, which contains the required software. (Those wishing to be sent a disc can reserve one on the Netflix site.)

To get more information on Netflix's future on gaming consoles, GameSpot caught up with Swasey, who revealed a few new things about how the service will work on the PS3.

GameSpot: I know you've indicated for several months now you're planning to expand your service onto all three consoles. How long did the PS3 deal take to arrange?

Steve Swasey: Well, Netflix desires to be on all the screens and all the platforms you can watch movies on. However, we don't disclose how long particular projects take. We are excited to announce that we are bringing Netflix to the PS3 in November.

GS: Is there an exact launch date?

SS: Not yet. Just November.

GS: So break down how the process works. You need a special Blu-ray disc to access the service, which you sign up for…

SS: Yeah, you just order a disc, and you'll get it generally the next day.

GS: You're already shipping them out?

SS: No, we'll be shipping them out in November. You keep that disc forever, and you plunk it in the tray and connect to the Internet. That gets you to your instant queue, and you're ready to watch it.

GS: Are there any plans for a firmware update that would add this functionality to the PS3's XrossMediaBar (XMB)?

SS: Yeah, actually we'll have that sometime next year.

GS: OK, so Netflix is obviously mail based, but you're focusing more and more on digital distribution. Are you going to offer a streaming-only subscription plan?

SS: No, it's bundled. You get the DVDs by mail and you get streaming too.

GS: And will the service still offer the same standard- and high-definition titles as it does on the PC and 360?

SS: It's the same thing on all the devices, whether it's a TV, Blu-ray disc player, or game console. The streaming functionality is the same.

GS: Now I know you guys announced earlier in the year that Netflix would be available on Internet-capable Bravia HDTVs. Will there be any kind of special Netflix functionality between the PS3 and such TVs?

SS: No, the streaming functionality goes directly to the devices. They're independent.

GS: In today's announcement, Netflix said it had 11.1 million subscribers and that over 9 million Americans own a PlayStation 3. What's the overlap between the two groups?

SS: I'm sure there is some, but we haven't disclosed that. We haven't broken that out.

GS: Are there any plans to have viewing parties, such as those available through Xbox Live, on the PS3?

SS: That's an Xbox initiative. You'd have to ask the folks at Sony about that [coming to the PS3].

GS: Now I know Sony also makes movies through its Sony Pictures arm. Will there be any kind of Sony-produced streaming content exclusive to the PS3 and Bravia?

SS: You'd have to talk to Sony about that.

GS: So this Sony deal will not affect your arrangement with Microsoft to stream movies on the Xbox 360, correct?

SS: No, we're continuing on the 360.

GS: And do you know how many 360 owners use Netflix currently?

SS: We know, but we don't break it out publically.

GS: Well, I guess the big advantage of streaming Netflix via the PS3 is you don't have to pay a premium membership cost for Xbox Live Gold. Do you know if Netflix will be available to Xbox Live Silver members in the future?

SS: That's a question you'd have to ask Microsoft. We just think they're both great platforms. [EDITOR'S NOTE: Microsoft has since confirmed Xbox Live Gold membership will still be mandatory to access Netflix on the 360.]

GS: So now, with you being on the 360 and PS3, the next question is--when will Netflix be coming to the Wii?

SS: It's a great platform, but there's nothing we've announced. We're continuing to grow both sides of the business, both DVD by mail and instant watching, and it's gratifying to see the market respond.

Pinoy · 10-27-2009, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pearl-drum-man

From Gamespot:

[EDITOR'S NOTE: Microsoft has since confirmed Xbox Live Gold membership will still be mandatory to access Netflix on the 360.]

Ouch... WTF MS

$100 wifi adapters, $100+ HDD's, annual fee to play online or even stream movies. No wonder your entertainment division shows profit...

MikeRox · 10-27-2009, 08:08 AM

It's an approach that works though. Look at mobile phone contracts. People would rather pay 2x as much to get a top of the range phone at £40 a month, than buy the phone up front and pay half the price for the handset.

It seems better value because there is a smaller lump payment, but I believe the 360 is actually the most expensive console on the market right now. Very clever pricing strategy from Microsoft that is clearly paying off for them.

**PFC5** · 10-27-2009, 12:16 PM

I wonder how long it will take for someone to figure out how to install that Netflix disc to run off the internal PS3 hard drive? That would be nice huh?

I also will try this in my BD35 player after seeing if others can get the disc to work with thier non Netflix players that have BD live.

eiger · 10-27-2009, 04:44 PM

Microsoft responds.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/m...etflix-on-ps3/

mobiushky · 10-27-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eiger

Microsoft responds.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/m...etflix-on-ps3/

Wow. That was intensely weak. Oh crap I can't watch a netflix movie being streamed over the internet with my friend in france.... Oh wait, I don't care about that. Never mind.

With everything and your camera able to facebook, twitter-pate, and every other social networking deal, who cares? Xbox is now behind the curve.

My only kudos to MacroShaft (and I may actually have to stop calling them that now...) is that Windows 7 is actually pretty cool. I can finally stream AVCHD to my PS3 without a 3rd party application.

10-26-2009, 02:28 PM	#16
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10-26-2009, 03:43 PM	#18
jjufon CMMS Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Frisco Tx Posts: 968	" Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter believes the BD-Live technique was chosen to work around some exclusivity clauses between Netflix and Microsoft, but the real reason is unknown. We've contacted Netflix and Sony for comment on Pachter's hypothesis, and will update with their responses as they arrive." __________________ JJufon

10-26-2009, 03:50 PM	#19
mobiushky More than meets the eyes! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,764	from the source in the OP: "Initially, watching movies instantly streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system will be enabled by a free, instant streaming Blu-ray disc that is being made available to all Netflix members. The free instant streaming disc leverages Blu-ray’s BD-Live™ technology to access the Internet and activate the Netflix user interface on the PS3 system, which must be online via Wi-Fi or Ethernet." Implication is that while it will require a disc at first, at some point that will not be needed anymore. Also, makes me wonder if only the PS3 will work with this... If the system is BD-Live, how do they prevent other BD-Live players from working? Not that they didn't, just a question. __________________ DRM is roughly the equivalent of poking you in the eye, repeatedly. ---------------------------------------------------- Main Setup: Pioneer PDP-5070HD Pioneer VSX-80TXV Dish Vip622 PS3 (120Gb), someone tried to tell me my BD player could play games too, what an idiot. Logitech Harmony 1000 remote All Klipsch speakers Bedroom Setup: Sony KDR-40XBR4 Dish Vip622 PS3 (80Gb, no BC) I think I have too many PS3s. Sony Commander RM-AV3000

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jjufon CMMS Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Frisco Tx Posts: 968	i think this is a short term solution until Sony can get software built to handle it. __________________ JJufon

10-27-2009, 03:51 AM	#24
scsa High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,107	I like how Cyn and a few others on here were laughing and loving that the netflix was and would always be exclusive to the 360 and yet here we go with the opposite. The funny thing is that netflix knows that only going to the 360 would of been stupid so instead of just taking the payoff that Microsoft gave them they decide lets find loopholes around this deal instead smart of them I say. Though does anyone know when the service should be available for the ps3. __________________ BLU-RAY Movies (27) Donnie Darko, Twister, Me Myself and Irene, Austin Powers 1, Austin Powers 2, Austin Powers 3, Friday the 13th, Halloween 1980, Halloween (2007), Smallville season 7, Freddy Vs Jason,Iron man, Transformers, Sarah Connor Chronicles. Independence Day, and Tropic Thunder,Die Hard, Die Harder, Die Hard with a Vengeance, Die hard 4,The Dark Knight, the matrix, The Matrix 2, The matrix 3, Spiderman, Spiderman 2, Spiderman 3. [/b][/color] [/color][/b] Last edited by scsa; 10-27-2009 at 03:58 AM.

10-26-2009, 03:01 PM	#17
kamspy Esteban Moderatoro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati,OH Good Posts: 12 Posts: 13,051	This is probably going to stop me from renewing my XBL Gold in ~8 months.

10-26-2009, 04:03 PM	#21
kamspy Esteban Moderatoro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati,OH Good Posts: 12 Posts: 13,051	Funny Netflix jumping the contract with MS like that. What are they gonna do? Drop the streaming?

10-26-2009, 04:19 PM	#23
kamspy Esteban Moderatoro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati,OH Good Posts: 12 Posts: 13,051	I guess it depends if it's really using pure BD+. Because otherwise I think it's kinda violating the deal between MS and Netflix. It's probably just an app that could run fine without the disc, but it's needed to avoid some type of legal mumbo from MS. I wonder how the ol EDD is reacting to this news.

10-27-2009, 06:31 AM	#25
pearl-drum-man High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 647	From Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6238087...dlines;title;4 Q & A: VP Steve Swasey explains how video service works on the PS3; firmware update planned for 2010, will offer same options as PC and Xbox Live streaming. After nearly a year of game-console exclusivity on the Xbox 360, Netflix branched out today. This morning, the company announced it was bringing its video streaming service to the PlayStation 3 starting next month. PS3 owners will need a disc to access Netflix…for now. Despite a different interface, the Netflix viewing experience will be essentially the same on the Xbox 360 and PS3, according to Steve Swasey, the company's vice president of corporate communication. However, accessing Netflix from the two consoles will differ. Whereas Netflix is integrated into the Xbox Live dashboard and firmware, accessing the service via the PS3 will require a Blu-ray disc, which contains the required software. (Those wishing to be sent a disc can reserve one on the Netflix site.) To get more information on Netflix's future on gaming consoles, GameSpot caught up with Swasey, who revealed a few new things about how the service will work on the PS3. GameSpot: I know you've indicated for several months now you're planning to expand your service onto all three consoles. How long did the PS3 deal take to arrange? Steve Swasey: Well, Netflix desires to be on all the screens and all the platforms you can watch movies on. However, we don't disclose how long particular projects take. We are excited to announce that we are bringing Netflix to the PS3 in November. GS: Is there an exact launch date? SS: Not yet. Just November. GS: So break down how the process works. You need a special Blu-ray disc to access the service, which you sign up for… SS: Yeah, you just order a disc, and you'll get it generally the next day. GS: You're already shipping them out? SS: No, we'll be shipping them out in November. You keep that disc forever, and you plunk it in the tray and connect to the Internet. That gets you to your instant queue, and you're ready to watch it. GS: Are there any plans for a firmware update that would add this functionality to the PS3's XrossMediaBar (XMB)? SS: Yeah, actually we'll have that sometime next year. GS: OK, so Netflix is obviously mail based, but you're focusing more and more on digital distribution. Are you going to offer a streaming-only subscription plan? SS: No, it's bundled. You get the DVDs by mail and you get streaming too. GS: And will the service still offer the same standard- and high-definition titles as it does on the PC and 360? SS: It's the same thing on all the devices, whether it's a TV, Blu-ray disc player, or game console. The streaming functionality is the same. GS: Now I know you guys announced earlier in the year that Netflix would be available on Internet-capable Bravia HDTVs. Will there be any kind of special Netflix functionality between the PS3 and such TVs? SS: No, the streaming functionality goes directly to the devices. They're independent. GS: In today's announcement, Netflix said it had 11.1 million subscribers and that over 9 million Americans own a PlayStation 3. What's the overlap between the two groups? SS: I'm sure there is some, but we haven't disclosed that. We haven't broken that out. GS: Are there any plans to have viewing parties, such as those available through Xbox Live, on the PS3? SS: That's an Xbox initiative. You'd have to ask the folks at Sony about that [coming to the PS3]. GS: Now I know Sony also makes movies through its Sony Pictures arm. Will there be any kind of Sony-produced streaming content exclusive to the PS3 and Bravia? SS: You'd have to talk to Sony about that. GS: So this Sony deal will not affect your arrangement with Microsoft to stream movies on the Xbox 360, correct? SS: No, we're continuing on the 360. GS: And do you know how many 360 owners use Netflix currently? SS: We know, but we don't break it out publically. GS: Well, I guess the big advantage of streaming Netflix via the PS3 is you don't have to pay a premium membership cost for Xbox Live Gold. Do you know if Netflix will be available to Xbox Live Silver members in the future? SS: That's a question you'd have to ask Microsoft. We just think they're both great platforms. [EDITOR'S NOTE: Microsoft has since confirmed Xbox Live Gold membership will still be mandatory to access Netflix on the 360.] GS: So now, with you being on the 360 and PS3, the next question is--when will Netflix be coming to the Wii? SS: It's a great platform, but there's nothing we've announced. We're continuing to grow both sides of the business, both DVD by mail and instant watching, and it's gratifying to see the market respond. __________________ Samsung 32" LCD LN-S3238D Toshiba HD D2 Yamaha YHT-390BL 5.1 HTiB Samsung DVD-VR375 DVD recorder/VCR Xbox 360

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10-27-2009, 12:16 PM	#28
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,385	I wonder how long it will take for someone to figure out how to install that Netflix disc to run off the internal PS3 hard drive? That would be nice huh? I also will try this in my BD35 player after seeing if others can get the disc to work with thier non Netflix players that have BD live. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

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