Modern Warfare 2: Official Thread

[eck979]

From what I've read, the shields stop ALL bullets, but you cannot shoot while you have the shield up and the shield melee takes two hits to kill.
When you put the shield away the only weapon available to you is a pistol, the shield protects you from behind when armed w/ the pistol becase you strap it to your back when not in use. It's really only good for defensive measures, like guarding a bomb planter I think. They said it's basically for people that suck at shooting other people but want to contribute and help their team to win.
I think the shield can be knifed around too.

I don't think it'll be a problem, and I also don't see myself using it. I wanna be in the shit, not a freaking lineman.

[Mase]

Originally Posted by Montsta

So long as you get limited maneuverability like you suggested Mase, I'm good with it. But if people can sprint all over the map and rush a .50 cal sniper head on with no fear of death, that's double-cheeseburger shit.

Yea IW has stated that they made the mistake of having Jug and Martydom as a crutch. I think they would have made it a pros and cons type of deal, yea you are invulnerable to bullets, but a claymore or a well thrown frag should do the trick.

IT has to be a tough thing to dev a game and have the weapons balanced, or else it turns in to matches where you have everyone using the same guns and that gets old...

Originally Posted by J-Rod

Maybe the shield will be a form of juggernaut. Hate them juggies.

I dont mind the perk if used by someone who is just learning the game, but then those that are good start using it and its just an exploit. Its not cheating, it just shows lack of class imo.. To each his own though

[eck979]

Originally Posted by Mase

IT has to be a tough thing to dev a game and have the weapons balanced, or else it turns in to matches where you have everyone using the same guns and that gets old...

A la MP40 in CORE gametypes.

[Bigloww]

Originally Posted by raiderfan

You know... I catch a lot of shit for team killing, but i think Big kills our asses just as much as I did!!!!!

No, I was the Marty King.. A big difference. You know I was dropping trow when I bit it, so if you were near me when that happens that's your fault.. If I gotta go, I'm taking evryone with me.

But turning a corner and BAM, there's Nip's unloading a clip into me. Or knowing that if Nips is behind you, getting shot in the back of the ankles is pretty much a done deal.


I believe you are the reason they don't allow tanks in Hard Core...

[Montsta]

Originally Posted by eck979

From what I've read, the shields stop ALL bullets, but you cannot shoot while you have the shield up and the shield melee takes two hits to kill.
When you put the shield away the only weapon available to you is a pistol, the shield protects you from behind when armed w/ the pistol becase you strap it to your back when not in use. It's really only good for defensive measures, like guarding a bomb planter I think. They said it's basically for people that suck at shooting other people but want to contribute and help their team to win.
I think the shield can be knifed around too.

I don't think it'll be a problem, and I also don't see myself using it. I wanna be in the shit, not a freaking lineman.

So theoretically, could a guy plant the bomb in the corner and then just crouch with a shield in front of it and then the other team is pretty much screwed? Or did I misread something?

I hope it doesn't turn to cheese. I will hunt down all shield users with a passion.

[eck979]

Originally Posted by Montsta

So theoretically, could a guy plant the bomb in the corner and then just crouch with a shield in front of it and then the other team is pretty much screwed? Or did I misread something?

I hope it doesn't turn to cheese. I will hunt down all shield users with a passion.

Well, he could, but he can't attack w/ the shield out so you could just run up and knife him, or toss a grenade or have two guys charge him and have one shoot him in the back.. etc.
I don't see how it will be cheese, but if there is a way, someone will find it w/in the first week and everyone will do it.

I have faith in IW though that this will be a balanced and fun game.

[jusHD]

Originally Posted by eck979

I have faith in IW though that this will be a balanced and fun game.

Exactly with IW's track record we should just trust them on this.

[eck979]

Cheevos: http://www.mw2blog.com/full-modern-w...ievement-list/


Call sign and emblem info:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1030704p1.html

Some text below

The original COD4 allowed for clan tagging, but outside of the simple four letter space, players didn't have much customization to go off of outside of their Xbox Live name, rank, and icon. I personally logged over 12 days on the game clock to get my gold cross -- and still play today -- but when it comes to in-game action I look just like every other schmuck out there with a full-prestige account.

That's where the callsign system comes in, and while we saw a bit of it at the multiplayer event, I found in my interweb lurking that there aren't too many people talking about just how large of an offering this system truly is. So with that, let's take a deeper look into it all.

Note: This is info we've gathered from playing Modern Warfare 2 and seeing footage thus far, and is subject to change as more is learned about the game.

The Title
The Title
First off, there are 594 pre-made "titles" within the game, not counting any potential secret ones or additional downloadable content that could come out post-launch. The titles are broken up into 22 pages of 27 tags each, and every tag is made up of both a background and text piece that go hand-in-hand as one unique option. From what we've seen there is no way to swap in different text or backdrops, or combine different titles with other color themes and so on. The text and visual backdrop go hand-in-hand.

As the backdrop of your whole in-game persona, the titles are not only your color theme and background, but also the first thing players read when you pull off amazing in-game actions (like destroying helicopters or getting multi-kills) or putting a bullet in you. Thus far we've seen things like Suppressor (pic of a silencer as the background), FNG (which is a military term for "effing new guy" -- complimented by desert camo), SSDD ("Same… Stuff, Different Day"), Silent Veteran (skulls), Surgical (red cross icons), Armed and Dangerous (magnum), SGT (military rank with what looks like urban or arctic camo), The Specialist, Boom Headshot (with blood splatter), and 402's own "Hello My Name Is" tag with the classic nametag background.

These tags, while not shown how to unlock on the actual selection page itself, are gained through general play. Whether some are single player or not is still up for grabs, but during multiplayer matches at the hands-on event accolades were handed out after matches based on player performance, and along with level-ups and gun challenges these tags were also handed out as rewards for your hard work in-game. For that reason -- and since it's linked in with all the other unlock pieces -- I'd put money on all titles and emblems unlocked due to online-only play. Maybe IW will surprise us on that one, but there are 70 levels per prestige now, and that's a whole lot of room for unlocking content.

While we can only speculate so far with what some of these tags take to unlock it's pretty obvious that Suppressor is awarded to those that use silenced weapons, Boom Headshot is used for noggin kill rewards, and the like. There have been talks online about what Surgical is used for, but I'd place money on that working as a reward for doing medic assists in the game, as it looks like a paramedic backdrop.

During the multiplayer session I was also awarded one title for payback kills. After completing a match where I killed players that killed me (essentially taking out rivals) I earned a title. I can't remember the exact name, but it was handed out after the match during the accolades process, and then became available in the title select menu.

As another note on titles, the final page or so is all flag-themed tags, and they were unlocked during our event (and presumably at the start of the final version too, for that matter). For those that just love to rep their region online, all major countries seemed to be represented; perhaps ideal for clans to use as a way of unifying them all on the field.


The Emblems

The Emblem
As for the emblems, players have 294 to look forward to, and these seem to unlock in the same manner. Though more subtle than the titles, emblems are another way to distinguish yourself (or your full clan) with a specific icon to team with your new call-sign/tag name. The starting group of rank emblems unlock with each level gained (the first time through), and I'd assume then that each prestige will also unlock a new emblem as well that can be assigned. It'd be awesome (if IW doesn't decide to use the gold cross as a prestige level in MW2) to actually have the classic cross icon unlocked for those players that got a gold cross in COD4; I know I'd use that indefinitely until getting whatever the new max prestige emblem is. Note, however, that the emblems only effect your in-game callsign and not your actual lobby icon; that pic is always locked to your current level.

As for other emblems we've seen in the wild, you've got dogtags, dual pistols, a shark face, shotgun shells, different soldier faces (both generic and in-game characters, such as Ghost), and also animated icons such as the rotating skull seen in the first multiplayer gameplay trailer. Since the emblems are also part of the customization/unlocks system I'd assume all icons will be unlocked during multiplayer play as well, but that's just speculation thus far. For those clans out there that want to get synchronized as well (and those good enough to all have specific emblems unlocked) I could see teams running around with everyone matching up their emblems to one main icon across the team. If there's an attack dog icon you can bet your ass that my clan -- The "Up Dogs" (or UPDG) -- will all run with that as our emblem across every member. We've also seen an IW emblem as well, which could either be locked for IW only players (like the IW clan tag is in COD4) or as a way for people to suck up to 402.

Oh, and call it wild speculation, but I think there's something to the whole "animated emblem" we saw in the multiplayer footage. Will those be extra difficult to unlock, or a reward for completing a certain prestige or challenge? Seeing as it's the only animated emblem I can recall thus far, I'd say there's bragging rights behind having one.

That wraps up this debut of the Gold Cross Corner. If you've got your own thoughts on the title or emblem system in Modern Warfare 2, or have something you want us to go in-depth with based on our time with the game just sound off in our comments section below. And yes, we'll get to the guns...

[eck979]

Spec-Ops mode detailed (shouldn't be blocked by proxies )
http://www.mw2blog.com/what-is-moder...cial-ops-mode/

[eck979]

Wow! Just read that there is dynamic weather in the MP maps. SO, it could be a dust storm during one match and then next time you play that map it could be clear. Maybe night/day, rain, snow, fog on each map??
Could change the way you play a map each time you play it and keep things fresh for a longer time.

Awesomness!!!

EDIT:
Sorry, that was just people talking about what if's. This isn't confirmed. My bad for getting everyone hyped.

They should totally do this though!!

[kamspy]

Thanks for the links Eck.

[Montsta]

So you guys here all in a clan together? I'd like to join if possible, as the leader of my clan from MW died from complications from an infection in his brain, and the clan just sort of all disbanded after that. He was kind of the glue that held everyone together. I'd like to join another clan that plays well, but isn't uptight or dickheaded about it. After playing a bunch of you in Madden, that seems to be how everyone is here.

It usually takes me a long while before I become really good at any shooter, as my marksmanship skills are lacking and my talent mostly relies on knowing the maps and good "route-running" so to speak. Let me know guys.

R.I.P. docshep42

[eck979]

Originally Posted by Montsta

So you guys here all in a clan together? I'd like to join if possible, as the leader of my clan from MW died from complications from an infection in his brain, and the clan just sort of all disbanded after that. He was kind of the glue that held everyone together. I'd like to join another clan that plays well, but isn't uptight or dickheaded about it. After playing a bunch of you in Madden, that seems to be how everyone is here.

It usually takes me a long while before I become really good at any shooter, as my marksmanship skills are lacking and my talent mostly relies on knowing the maps and good "route-running" so to speak. Let me know guys.

R.I.P. docshep42

Hell yeah man.. You're welcome in my book. We don't have a real "clan" per se, but we play together a bunch and try to coordinate some and occasionallly all put HDF in the clan tag. It's pretty easy the first few months a COD comes out, jump on around 9pm and later and there's plenty of peeps playing together into the late hours. We have a few beasts, but most of us are just average or plain shitty. If you can deal w/ not winning every match then you should enjoy it.

Check out the earlier glory days of posts in teh COD WAW party up thread, it's a good time. There's also a COD4 party thread or two floating around in the archives from it's glory days.


Sorry about your friend dude, I know how it feels.

[Montsta]

Originally Posted by eck979

Hell yeah man.. You're welcome in my book. We don't have a real "clan" per se, but we play together a bunch and try to coordinate some and occasionallly all put HDF in the clan tag. It's pretty easy the first few months a COD comes out, jump on around 9pm and later and there's plenty of peeps playing together into the late hours. We have a few beasts, but most of us are just average or plain shitty. If you can deal w/ not winning every match then you should enjoy it.

Check out the earlier glory days of posts in teh COD WAW party up thread, it's a good time. There's also a COD4 party thread or two floating around in the archives from it's glory days.


Sorry about your friend dude, I know how it feels.

Yeah, he was only 25 years old. It sucked big time. Everytime I go on XBL it shows him as "offline" now, and I don't think I'll ever have the heart to take him off my friend's list so it's like this constant reminder, you know? It's shiity seeing his acheivements and games played and just knowing that no more than a year ago he was watching my back during Search & Destroy missions.

[Montsta]

My bad for the off-topic somber mood. Anyhow, I usually come on fairly late Pacific time, so I'll probably catch the tail-end of you guys playing, but that's fine by me.