Panasonic TC-P58V10 released

Cle. Plasma · 08-12-2009, 05:20 PM

VIERA's wide color gamut covers 120% of the HDTV color standard. This approaches the level of colors in cinemas and produces images with extremely rich colors.

THX reproduces movie images exactly as the movie's creators intended them. In the early 1980's, Lucasfilm, established the THX Standard to stipulate the audio and video quality criteria for cinema environments. The overall aim was to improve the experience of cinema-goers and faithfully recreate the audio and visual ambience that film makers intended. VIERA meets the high standards set by the THX Certified Display Program.

Enjoy the Internet contents* right on your TV. With VIERA CAST™ technology, you can enjoy online content such as videos, photos, weather and stock information through an easy-to-use Web interface that's built into the TV. No extra equipment required.

600Hz technology lets you view superb full-HD motion and still images with 1,080 lines of resolution**. For even greater clarity with motion images, Panasonic uses its own unique image-analysis technology. This technology converts the motion in each scene into data. And each frame is practically displayed for a shorter length of time than in previous systems, to reduce aftereffects.

Over 2,000,000:1* High Contrast (Native 40,000:1)
New VIERA models incorporate an improved panel production process and the new Real Black Drive system. A pre-discharge control system, the Real Black Drive system combines with NeoPDP technology to achieve next-generation black reproduction. When you're watching movies, VIERA renders images just the way the director intended, even in scenes where it's difficult to achieve a proper balance of light and dark.

VIERA recreates the unique atmosphere of movie images. Enjoy cinema quality in your own home. The images that are recorded onto movie film at 24 frames per second (fps) are reproduced at four times that speed by 24p Cinematic Playback. This achieves film like reproduction than 2:3 pull down method.

View breathtaking images with rich, vivid colors from anywhere in the room. Because plasma TVs are self-illuminating, images look beautiful from any angle. Black areas do not fade, and colors look virtually the same no matter where you sit.

This advanced filter keeps images sharp, with minimal glare. While dramatically reducing reflections from external light, it helps to produce clear images. This filter creates pure, crisp images in a wide range of colors.

BBE ViVA is new High Definition 3D Sound technology which integrates a 3Denhancement effect with BBE High Definition Sound. ViVA creates an authentic and exciting 3D sound effect from stereo speakers while preserving the clarity, definition, presence and texture for which BBE High Definition Sound is noted. BBE ViVA is now being offered to BBE licensees in the consumer electronics industry.

It's easy to view full-HD images with the SD card slot. Watch and show your photos and motion images right after you take them. Simply insert an SD card into VIERA to display photos and full-HD videos on the large screen.
You can also choose from among 3 types of background music and 4 display effects. It's much more fun when you can view them on a large-screen HDTV with family and friends in 1920 x 1080-pixel high definition and a wide 16:9 aspect ratio.

VIERA Link allows interconnected operation of various AV devices using only the VIERA remote control, by simply connecting the devices to each other by an HDMI cable.

With the new VIERA Tools user interface, simply press a button on the remote control and icons such as the photos or movies from the menu screen. Now you can just select the one you want. This kind of easy operation means you have more fun and less hassle.

In Game mode, quicker image response increases the enjoyment of video games when a game console is connected to the TV. What's more VIERA produces the dark images in video games more clearly. This mode works anti-image retention (wobbling) too.

VIDEO .
Screen Size 58" Class (58.0" diagonal)
Contrast Ratio Dynamic: Infinite Black/Over 2,000,000:1
Native: 40,000:1
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Native Resolution (Number of Pixels) 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080)
Pixel Pitch (H x V) 0.669 x 0.669 mm
Moving Picture Resolution 1080 lines
Shades of Gradation 6,144 equivalent
HDTV Display Capability (1080p, 1080i, 720p) Yes
EDTV Display Capability (480p) Yes
Aspect Control Normal, Zoom, Full, Just, H-fill for TV/AV modes
4:3, Full for PC mode
Panel G12 Progressive HD Plasma Display Panel
Screen Coating (Filter) New AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter
Progressive Scan Yes
LAN Port 1
24p Cinematic Playback Yes
24p Playback(2:3) Yes
Digital Cinema Color Yes
Deep Color Yes
x.v.Color Yes
Studio Ref Mode Yes
Pro Setting Yes
THX Mode Yes
Motion Adaptive 3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter Yes
3D Color Management Yes
Sub Pixel Control Yes
Motion Pattern Noise Reduction Yes

AUDIO .
Speakers Full-range x 2 (L, R)
Number of Speakers 2
BBE® VIVA HD3D Sound Yes
Surround Sound Yes

INPUTS & JACKS .
Integrated ATSC Tuner Yes
VIERA Image Viewer™ Y (AVCHD/MPEG2/JPEG Playback)
HDMI Input 4 (1 side)
Analog Audio Input (for HDMI) Yes
Composite Video Input 2 (1 side)
S-Video Input 1
Audio Input (for Video) 2 (1 side)
PC Input Mini D-sub 15-pin x 1 (side)
Component Video Inputs (Y, PB, PR) 2
Audio Input (for Component Video) 2
RS232C 1
Analog Audio Output 1
Digital Audio Output 1

CONVENIENCE .
VIERA Link™ Y (with Network Camera)
VIERA Cast™ (IPTV) Yes
VIERA® Tools Yes
Game Mode Yes
Pixel Orbiter (Anti-Image Retention) Yes
V-Chip Program Lockout Yes
Built-In Closed Caption Decoder Yes
Timers Yes
Video Input Label Yes
Video Picture Memory Yes
Remote Control IR

GENERAL .
Power Supply AC 120 V, 60Hz
Energy Star Yes
Receiving System ATSC/QAM/NTSC
Operating Temperature 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C)
Optional Wall-mounting Bracket TY-WK5P1RW

SPECIFICATIONS .
Dimensions (H x W x D) with Stand 56.0" × 36.8" × 15.3"
Dimensions (H x W x D) without Stand 56.0" × 34.7" × 2.5" (3.7")
Weight (lbs.) w/Stand 114.7 lbs.
Weight (lbs.) without Stand 110.3 lbs.
600 Hz Sub-field Drive Yes

PFC5 · 08-12-2009, 06:36 PM

I want one, but my wallet keeps saying "NO" damn it.

tRidiot · 08-12-2009, 08:16 PM

Any word on "street prices"?

Cle. Plasma · 08-12-2009, 09:10 PM

Hows $2600 delivered....

Loves2Watch · 08-12-2009, 09:25 PM

If I hadn't just bought that 85"er I would jump on it...

Lee Stewart · 08-12-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

VIERA's wide color gamut covers 120% of the HDTV color standard. This approaches the level of colors in cinemas and produces images with extremely rich colors.

The level of colors for HD is 16.7 million colors. The same for SD. They are at 8 bit color depth (gamut).

Quote:

The DMD’s use pulse-width modulation to generate color intensity and are capable of up to 15 bits of color depth. This allows over 1 trillion colors to be displayed.

http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~...CinemaTalk.pdf

Loves2Watch · 08-12-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

The level of colors for HD is 16.7 million colors. The same for SD. They are at 8 bit color depth (gamut).

I guess you then missed the part about the TV being 12 bit.

Codes20 · 08-12-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

If I hadn't just bought that 85"er I would jump on it...

Yeah, yeah...rub it in.

Loves2Watch · 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codes20

Yeah, yeah...rub it in.

You should see it when I play Fallout...just amazing.

Lee Stewart · 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

I guess you then missed the part about the TV being 12 bit.

But the content is 8bit.

12bit would yield BILLIONS of colors - not a 20% increase over 16.7M

PFC5 · 08-13-2009, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

But the content is 8bit.

12bit would yield BILLIONS of colors - not a 20% increase over 16.7M

Didn't it say something about "expanding" (which I read as the same as upscaling) from 8 bit when actually displayed?

We do know that it is usually better to do conversions at least at 10 bit internally for scaling purposes even if the output is brought back to 8 bit for display from what I read about 1 year ago when this whole HDMI DeepColor debacle started.

Lee Stewart · 08-13-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFC5

Didn't it say something about "expanding" (which I read as the same as upscaling) from 8 bit when actually displayed?

We do know that it is usually better to do conversions at least at 10 bit internally for scaling purposes even if the output is brought back to 8 bit for display from what I read about 1 year ago when this whole HDMI DeepColor debacle started.

We both agree that 1080P coming from an HDMI DVD player is not HD. So why would 8 bit coming from any HD source all of a sudden be considered a higher/deeper color gamut when "upscaling" is applied?

How does it know it add other color hues outside the 16.7M correctly? Guess?

PFC5 · 08-13-2009, 04:01 AM

Pretty much, but IF the display can handle they higher count of different colors it could look better "maybe".

Crash7 · 08-14-2009, 10:21 AM

I highly recommend the V10. I have the 54" and that seems huge, can't imagine the 58"

Cle. Plasma · 08-15-2009, 07:28 PM

TC-P65V10 out of the Question then?

08-12-2009, 05:20 PM	#1
Cle. Plasma WWW.CLEVELAND PLASMA.COM Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CLEVELAND, OHIO Posts: 673	Panasonic TC-P58V10 released VIERA's wide color gamut covers 120% of the HDTV color standard. This approaches the level of colors in cinemas and produces images with extremely rich colors. THX reproduces movie images exactly as the movie's creators intended them. In the early 1980's, Lucasfilm, established the THX Standard to stipulate the audio and video quality criteria for cinema environments. The overall aim was to improve the experience of cinema-goers and faithfully recreate the audio and visual ambience that film makers intended. VIERA meets the high standards set by the THX Certified Display Program. Enjoy the Internet contents* right on your TV. With VIERA CAST™ technology, you can enjoy online content such as videos, photos, weather and stock information through an easy-to-use Web interface that's built into the TV. No extra equipment required. 600Hz technology lets you view superb full-HD motion and still images with 1,080 lines of resolution*. For even greater clarity with motion images, Panasonic uses its own unique image-analysis technology. This technology converts the motion in each scene into data. And each frame is practically displayed for a shorter length of time than in previous systems, to reduce aftereffects. Over 2,000,000:1 High Contrast (Native 40,000:1) New VIERA models incorporate an improved panel production process and the new Real Black Drive system. A pre-discharge control system, the Real Black Drive system combines with NeoPDP technology to achieve next-generation black reproduction. When you're watching movies, VIERA renders images just the way the director intended, even in scenes where it's difficult to achieve a proper balance of light and dark. VIERA recreates the unique atmosphere of movie images. Enjoy cinema quality in your own home. The images that are recorded onto movie film at 24 frames per second (fps) are reproduced at four times that speed by 24p Cinematic Playback. This achieves film like reproduction than 2:3 pull down method. View breathtaking images with rich, vivid colors from anywhere in the room. Because plasma TVs are self-illuminating, images look beautiful from any angle. Black areas do not fade, and colors look virtually the same no matter where you sit. This advanced filter keeps images sharp, with minimal glare. While dramatically reducing reflections from external light, it helps to produce clear images. This filter creates pure, crisp images in a wide range of colors. BBE ViVA is new High Definition 3D Sound technology which integrates a 3Denhancement effect with BBE High Definition Sound. ViVA creates an authentic and exciting 3D sound effect from stereo speakers while preserving the clarity, definition, presence and texture for which BBE High Definition Sound is noted. BBE ViVA is now being offered to BBE licensees in the consumer electronics industry. It's easy to view full-HD images with the SD card slot. Watch and show your photos and motion images right after you take them. Simply insert an SD card into VIERA to display photos and full-HD videos on the large screen. You can also choose from among 3 types of background music and 4 display effects. It's much more fun when you can view them on a large-screen HDTV with family and friends in 1920 x 1080-pixel high definition and a wide 16:9 aspect ratio. VIERA Link allows interconnected operation of various AV devices using only the VIERA remote control, by simply connecting the devices to each other by an HDMI cable. With the new VIERA Tools user interface, simply press a button on the remote control and icons such as the photos or movies from the menu screen. Now you can just select the one you want. This kind of easy operation means you have more fun and less hassle. In Game mode, quicker image response increases the enjoyment of video games when a game console is connected to the TV. What's more VIERA produces the dark images in video games more clearly. This mode works anti-image retention (wobbling) too. VIDEO . Screen Size 58" Class (58.0" diagonal) Contrast Ratio Dynamic: Infinite Black/Over 2,000,000:1 Native: 40,000:1 Aspect Ratio 16:9 Native Resolution (Number of Pixels) 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080) Pixel Pitch (H x V) 0.669 x 0.669 mm Moving Picture Resolution 1080 lines Shades of Gradation 6,144 equivalent HDTV Display Capability (1080p, 1080i, 720p) Yes EDTV Display Capability (480p) Yes Aspect Control Normal, Zoom, Full, Just, H-fill for TV/AV modes 4:3, Full for PC mode Panel G12 Progressive HD Plasma Display Panel Screen Coating (Filter) New AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter Progressive Scan Yes LAN Port 1 24p Cinematic Playback Yes 24p Playback(2:3) Yes Digital Cinema Color Yes Deep Color Yes x.v.Color Yes Studio Ref Mode Yes Pro Setting Yes THX Mode Yes Motion Adaptive 3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter Yes 3D Color Management Yes Sub Pixel Control Yes Motion Pattern Noise Reduction Yes AUDIO . Speakers Full-range x 2 (L, R) Number of Speakers 2 BBE® VIVA HD3D Sound Yes Surround Sound Yes INPUTS & JACKS . Integrated ATSC Tuner Yes VIERA Image Viewer™ Y (AVCHD/MPEG2/JPEG Playback) HDMI Input 4 (1 side) Analog Audio Input (for HDMI) Yes Composite Video Input 2 (1 side) S-Video Input 1 Audio Input (for Video) 2 (1 side) PC Input Mini D-sub 15-pin x 1 (side) Component Video Inputs (Y, PB, PR) 2 Audio Input (for Component Video) 2 RS232C 1 Analog Audio Output 1 Digital Audio Output 1 CONVENIENCE . VIERA Link™ Y (with Network Camera) VIERA Cast™ (IPTV) Yes VIERA® Tools Yes Game Mode Yes Pixel Orbiter (Anti-Image Retention) Yes V-Chip Program Lockout Yes Built-In Closed Caption Decoder Yes Timers Yes Video Input Label Yes Video Picture Memory Yes Remote Control IR GENERAL . Power Supply AC 120 V, 60Hz Energy Star Yes Receiving System ATSC/QAM/NTSC Operating Temperature 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C) Optional Wall-mounting Bracket TY-WK5P1RW SPECIFICATIONS . Dimensions (H x W x D) with Stand 56.0" × 36.8" × 15.3" Dimensions (H x W x D) without Stand 56.0" × 34.7" × 2.5" (3.7") Weight (lbs.) w/Stand 114.7 lbs. Weight (lbs.) without Stand 110.3 lbs. 600 Hz Sub-field Drive Yes __________________ President: Chris WWW.ClevelandPlasma.Com

08-12-2009, 06:36 PM	#2
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	I want one, but my wallet keeps saying "NO" damn it. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

08-12-2009, 09:10 PM	#4
Cle. Plasma WWW.CLEVELAND PLASMA.COM Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CLEVELAND, OHIO Posts: 673	Hows $2600 delivered.... __________________ President: Chris WWW.ClevelandPlasma.Com

08-12-2009, 09:25 PM	#5
Loves2Watch Former Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In Flux Posts: 20,284	If I hadn't just bought that 85"er I would jump on it... __________________ It's always time for pie Live everyday as if it was your last and plan on living forever...

08-13-2009, 04:01 AM	#13
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	Pretty much, but IF the display can handle they higher count of different colors it could look better "maybe". __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

08-12-2009, 08:16 PM	#3
tRidiot High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 216	Any word on "street prices"?

08-14-2009, 10:21 AM	#14
Crash7 How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 23	I highly recommend the V10. I have the 54" and that seems huge, can't imagine the 58" __________________ Panasonic TC-P54V10 Yamaha HTR-6160, LG BH-200, Motorola DCT-6412, JBL 7.1 speakers XBOX 360 Harmony One

08-15-2009, 07:28 PM	#15
Cle. Plasma WWW.CLEVELAND PLASMA.COM Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CLEVELAND, OHIO Posts: 673	TC-P65V10 out of the Question then? __________________ President: Chris WWW.ClevelandPlasma.Com

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