Just bought New LCD and have a Question?

n8dogg · 07-10-2009, 07:08 PM

Well I decided to buy an LG 1080 120hz tv for my bedroom so I can play xbox on it and to watch sports and shows at night. I am coming from a Plasma downstairs , a samsung 720p. The thing is with this new tv its really wierd ? It seems like theres kind of a lag when watching shows that Im not used to with the plasma. Like for example I was watching a re- run of entourage and they are always walking around and it just didnt seem smooth to me? I dont know if there is a term for it but its just tripping me out. Are all lcds like this? I hope I made sense

Loves2Watch · 07-10-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by n8dogg

Well I decided to buy an LG 1080 120hz tv for my bedroom so I can play xbox on it and to watch sports and shows at night. I am coming from a Plasma downstairs , a samsung 720p. The thing is with this new tv its really wierd ? It seems like theres kind of a lag when watching shows that Im not used to with the plasma. Like for example I was watching a re- run of entourage and they are always walking around and it just didnt seem smooth to me? I dont know if there is a term for it but its just tripping me out. Are all lcds like this? I hope I made sense

One of the main differences between plasma and LCD.

n8dogg · 07-10-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

One of the main differences between plasma and LCD.

So this is how all LCD's are?

Loves2Watch · 07-10-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by n8dogg

So this is how all LCD's are?

Yeppers and if you are used to plasma, LCD just won't cut it...

n8dogg · 07-10-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Yeppers and if you are used to plasma, LCD just won't cut it...

ya its like watching a soap opera. Well I only got lcd because of burn in effects of plasmas everyone talks about. Would You say the Panny viera 1080 plasma would eventually get burn in If i play games on it? That was what I was going to get until my friends convinced me to get an lcd. thanks for your responses by the way!

**PFC5** · 07-10-2009, 08:27 PM

I have the prior year model Panasonic plasma and we game on it for hours without ANY burn-in. We play better than we did with the LCD & DLP on the plasma.

Loves2Watch · 07-10-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by n8dogg

ya its like watching a soap opera. Well I only got lcd because of burn in effects of plasmas everyone talks about. Would You say the Panny viera 1080 plasma would eventually get burn in If i play games on it? That was what I was going to get until my friends convinced me to get an lcd. thanks for your responses by the way!

I too game on my plasma TV's frequently without any problems whatsoever.

Go Panasonic plasma...

roddymac · 07-10-2009, 09:32 PM

It actually depends on the LCD unit itself and the refresh rate. The original LCDs to first hit the market were plagued with exceptionally slow refresh rates so for things like sporting events you would always see a trail behind a puck or a thrown football.

The newest units put out by Sharp have refresh rates roughly 15x of the first units to hit the market.

n8dogg · 07-11-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by roddymac

It actually depends on the LCD unit itself and the refresh rate. The original LCDs to first hit the market were plagued with exceptionally slow refresh rates so for things like sporting events you would always see a trail behind a puck or a thrown football.

The newest units put out by Sharp have refresh rates roughly 15x of the first units to hit the market.

I'm not talking about blur or trails ? Its just the picture that lcds create i guess. I don't think I can adjust since I am so used to my plasma that I have had for the previous 3 years. I think I am just going to swap it with the panny 1080. I will just make sure I dont leave any screens on for too long. thanks to all the people that responded!

jam269 · 07-11-2009, 07:59 AM

Most of the Plasmas on the market today have some kind of anti-burnin protection. "Pixel Shifting" for example is one of those.

From Panasonic's FAQ:

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4. What is the "break-in" period and what should I do during the break-in period to minimize any risk of image retention?
When your plasma TV is initially installed, the first 100 hours of use is known as the "break-in period." During this time, to minimize any risk of image retention, you should:

Make sure the plasma TV is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen. The panel is shipped in this condition, in what is called the "Just" mode.
Turn down the Picture setting (in the Picture menu) to +0.
Briefly engage the 4:3 mode and confirm the side bars are set to "Mid", or "Bright". This can be adjusted in the Set Up menu.
Always return the display mode that fills the screen (such as Just, Zoom, Full, or H-FILL).
Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time.
Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.).

5. I've heard that plasma TVs can "burn-in" over time. What is "burn-in" exactly, and is it really a concern?
"Burn-in," or image retention, is an uneven aging of the phosphors in a display device, can occur on any display that uses phosphors to generate an image, including tube TVs, projection TVs that use CRTs, and plasma TVs. Such uneven aging happens when bright, static images are left onscreen for an extended period of time, which can leave a visible "shadow" effect.

Improvements in panel service life to over 60,000 hours have minimized the risk of image retention. In addition, screen savers, pixel shifting, and brightness level adjustments can dramatically reduce any chance of image retention. Use common sense when it comes to your plasma TV; don't pause video games or watch TV stations with station logos onscreen for long periods of time, and use one of the many display calibration DVDs available today for properly setting brightness and contrast.

The rule of thumb: if you don't worry about your traditional tube TV, you don't have to worry about a Panasonic plasma TV

n8dogg · 07-11-2009, 10:44 AM

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Varies from set to set. The better LCD's minimize it.

I went to my friends house last night who just bought a samsung LCD and his was doing the same thing. I'm sure If I had never got a plasma before it would be easier to get used to. The picture quality is top notch though.

tRidiot · 07-11-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by n8dogg

I went to my friends house last night who just bought a samsung LCD and his was doing the same thing. I'm sure If I had never got a plasma before it would be easier to get used to. The picture quality is top notch though.

I know what you mean... the jumpy picture of LCDs... even better ones. Once it has been seen, it is difficult to 'unsee'.

n8dogg · 07-11-2009, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the help guys , and sorry to the lcd fans

I ended up returning it for the Panny viera 1080 plasma and couldn't be happier

**PFC5** · 07-11-2009, 02:38 PM

Glad you like what you have now. As was said previously, once you see the motion issue with LCDs it is hard to not notice it going forward. Some people never notice this and some are very sensitive to it. It is just a matter of how each individual's eyes/brain process what they see and it can vary from person to person. Plasma is much closer to the CRTs we all saw with lightning fast refresh/response rates but without the scan lines which are replaced with individual pixels on plasmas.

Loves2Watch · 07-11-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by n8dogg

Thanks for the help guys , and sorry to the lcd fans

I ended up returning it for the Panny viera 1080 plasma and couldn't be happier

07-10-2009, 07:08 PM	#1
n8dogg High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34	Just bought New LCD and have a Question? Well I decided to buy an LG 1080 120hz tv for my bedroom so I can play xbox on it and to watch sports and shows at night. I am coming from a Plasma downstairs , a samsung 720p. The thing is with this new tv its really wierd ? It seems like theres kind of a lag when watching shows that Im not used to with the plasma. Like for example I was watching a re- run of entourage and they are always walking around and it just didnt seem smooth to me? I dont know if there is a term for it but its just tripping me out. Are all lcds like this? I hope I made sense

07-10-2009, 08:27 PM	#6
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,329	I have the prior year model Panasonic plasma and we game on it for hours without ANY burn-in. We play better than we did with the LCD & DLP on the plasma. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

07-11-2009, 02:38 PM	#14
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,329	Glad you like what you have now. As was said previously, once you see the motion issue with LCDs it is hard to not notice it going forward. Some people never notice this and some are very sensitive to it. It is just a matter of how each individual's eyes/brain process what they see and it can vary from person to person. Plasma is much closer to the CRTs we all saw with lightning fast refresh/response rates but without the scan lines which are replaced with individual pixels on plasmas. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

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