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Old 07-01-2009, 07:41 AM   #1
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Hey,

I'm new to this forum and was wondering if anyone in here is familiar with the samsung LEDs and willing to help out.

Until couple of months ago, I still had CRT TVs in my living room and bedroom. I know, very quaint. Well the living room TV finally gave out after 10 plus years, so I decided to finally get with the times and get two new TVs. My friend was good enough to sell me a samsung 46" LCD for $700. Great deal I tought, considering the TV was only 2years old and never used. Surprise, surprise, turning on the TV it reavealed an image quality a bit worse than my old TVs. Well shame on me for not doing my homework. As it turns out the TV specs were 60 Hz, 7000:1 and 720p.

I went to BB and checked out some TV's and found the really goodlooking Samsung LEDs.

-The 6000 series with 120Hz, 3000 000:1 and 1080p.

-The 7000 series seems to have the same speccs.

-The 8000 series with 240Hz, 5000 000:1 and 1080p.

Why is it that the 7000 series with the same specs cost more than the 6000? Is twice the Hz (240Hz) in the 8000 series worth the price difference?

I'm currently leaning towards the UN55B7000 and the UN40B6000. Call me crazy but one of the reasons I'm shying away from the 8000 series is that I really like the red touch of colour (the 8000 is blue).

The best deal I found is from an E bay merchant (best buy electronics) which will deliver both for $4196 otd. Seems like a huge discount compared to what BB is selling it for. I checked the feedback and they have a 99.7% positive. I spoke to a guy over the phone and they seem legit. He says the stuff is factory brand new and not refurbished. Is this a good deal or TGTBT? Should I hold off since electronics have a tendency to cost a lot at inception and drop off steeply very quickly? Is there any point in getting the 7000 over the 6000 in the 55"? Should I hold out for the 240Hz to become cheaper?

Any information would be much appreciated.

-Peter Oh

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Old 07-01-2009, 07:48 AM   #2
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I was never able to do a side by side comparison. None of the BBs close to me, had them side by side.

From what the sales guys told me, the 120Hz to 240Hz is a marginal improvement and the jump from 3000 000:1 to 5000 000:1 is negligible.

Is this correct or would the upgrades make a big difference?

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Old 07-01-2009, 07:52 AM   #3
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Another concern I have is that even the 8000 series with 240Hz has some motion blurr. I suppose I can't expect a perfect image unless I go the the movies. However, can we expect a much improved quality in coming LED generations?

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:24 AM   #4
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Ok so I went over some of the stickys. I imagine a few guys rolling their eyes.

So I guess forget the q about contrast ratio.

I already stated that they will be replacing two tube tvs and a 46" samsung lcd which I have grown to detest.

I watch a lot of sports, news but also movies on cable as well as dvd. Im going to stick to my dvd players and skip blue ray since I think the next step will be streaming downloadable movies to make all other players obsolete.

I really prefer the LED's over anything else I've seen. My buddy has an Elite 62 inch plasma. A few years ago the whole setup cost over $10 000. I went over to his house after looking at LED's, and thought the quality of the plasma was shyte.

I see very little difference between LCD and LED but the LED exterior design just looks so much nicer. It's probably laughable for most guys but design and aesthetic appeal is extremely important to me.

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Old 07-02-2009, 04:55 AM   #5
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Hmmm nothing but crickets here.

Can anyone tell me about the Smoot Hawley tariff?.........anyone,anyone?

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Old 07-02-2009, 10:51 AM   #6
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The differences between the 6000 and 7000 series seem to be slightly better
contrast on the 7000. The 7000 series also has what Samsung dubs "Medi@ 2.0", which is a way to network the TV to receive various internet enabled widgets via your television. The 8000 series adds 240Hz AutoMotion Plus processing. If you know what to look for, you can see a slight difference in a side-by-side comparison in the 120 vs. 240, however, I will say that 90%+ people won't be able to tell.

The 8000 series has a touch of grey, not blue. It's more like a dark charcoal color at the very edge of the bezel.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:52 PM   #7
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Hmmm nothing but crickets here.

Can anyone tell me about the Smoot Hawley tariff?.........anyone,anyone?

-Peter Oh
Yeah, I'm just shocked no one has tried to sell you a plasma yet. I own the 7000 series. It's a great TV, I have a 32" LG LCD and replaced a 50" Samsung DLP. My jaw hits the floor everytime I enter the room and look at this thing. The widgets are a gimic imo at this stage unless they do some firmware updates. Who doesn't have a wireless network with a laptop or a smartphone handy for browsing the weather or email. Blu-rays and HD programming look out of this world, nothing like in the store. Just read some other reviews on CNET or HDguru, they give pretty good information about the panels.
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:52 PM   #8
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When I view plasmas, they don't seem to have the motion blurr. On the other hand, the colours aren't as vivid and the screen appears darker to me.

I viewed plasmas and leds with similar specs, side by side and find myself liking the LEDs more.

Besides, most salesguys I've spoken to say that plasma is an old technology that most likely will be phased out.

Another thing that bothers me, is that plasmas degrade. LEDs on the other hand won't. I guess when an LED is done, the whole thing goes, but until that happens it's just as good as when new.

I'm wondering if I'm not as good with the UNB55B6000 as with the UN55B7000. The price difference is however is less than $200. So maybe the marginal difference is worth the newer model.

Thanks guys for your input.

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Old 07-02-2009, 06:03 PM   #9
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Lol just observed something funny. Im a car guy and spend time on car forums. It seems fellow car forum members rank you according to what you have in the garage. Over here, guys (and gals?) list their home electronics. My sig would look like this:

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When I view plasmas, they don't seem to have the motion blurr. On the other hand, the colours aren't as vivid and the screen appears darker to me. Of course the LCD will look brighter on the sales floor of a store that has high intensity lighting. Things are much different once you see a plasma in your home.

I viewed plasmas and leds with similar specs, side by side and find myself liking the LEDs more.Again you did that comparison in a store which in no way represents the ambient lighting in your home.

Besides, most salesguys I've spoken to say that plasma is an old technology that most likely will be phased out. I've been hearing that for years from "salesguys". Plasma still exists as there is nothing currently better.

Another thing that bothers me, is that plasmas degrade. LEDs on the other hand won't. I guess when an LED is done, the whole thing goes, but until that happens it's just as good as when new. Plasma TV's degrade no sooner than a LCD display would.(20 years +)

I'm wondering if I'm not as good with the UNB55B6000 as with the UN55B7000. The price difference is however is less than $200. So maybe the marginal difference is worth the newer model.

Thanks guys for your input.

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Just for your consideration since you may have some not quite right impressions of plasma technology. I seriously recommend that you look at one in someones home who has it properly adjusted. All in all plasma clearly has a superior picture. Plasma doesn't exhibit motion blur/smear and has much better off axis viewing angles.
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At the current panel life rating on plasmas of 100,000 hours before the brightness reaches half as bright as when it was new, that is better than the life span of most CRT tube TVs get/got. It really is a non-issue.

LED arrays also have a limited life and I remember Samsung rating the LED array for their DLPs using this at only 20,000 hours when they were introduced. It is likely that they improved the lifespan of LEDs since then, but ALL tech has limits to their lifespan so again this IS a non-issue.

It is also true what L2W posted about the store lighting being so much different than home lighting that it doesn't show how much difference it makes for PQ in a home. I own both and plasma wins everytime and regardless of the material being watched.
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So can I assume that plasma is here to stay?

At BB they do have darker rooms where all the high end stuff is displayed. I understand that out in the main warehouse, where the light is bright, the LEDs perform better. However, even in the darker room, I still thought the LEDs looked better than the plasma TVs. Perhaps its just a matter of personal preference, but I really prefer the LEDs.

My buddy had a professional installer set up and calibrate his plasma. Granted that his plasma now is 3 years old (which makes it ancient in tech years), but it was the best, one could get back then. I believe Elite still is Pioneers flagship models and that they still set the benchmark. Even so, looking at it, I think it leaves much to desire. Maybe it's a bit unfair though, considering the size of the screen. I suppose 62" would reveal more imperfections than smaller sizes.

As far as plasma vs LED, I'm pretty much sold on the LED. Just wonder if I should go for the 8,7, or 6K series.

I will however go one last time before purchasing to check out plasmas.

Thanks again for your input.

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Some people like a brighter picture even if it is not as accurate as simply personal taste. If you think you prefer that extra brightness, then an LED backlit LCD would be the best choice for you. After all, you are the one paying for it and will have to look at it for years to come so get what looks best to you.

One thing to make sure of if people will also be watching at an angle, you want check the viewing angles from your seating distance with those LED backlit LCDs. Those models tend to have more narrow viewing angles so look in the darker room at the store for your model where it will likely be more noticeable so you can be sure it is acceptable.

Good luck & enjoy whatever you get.
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There is no big difference for series 6 and 7.They have same contrast ratio but series 7 have DLNA technology that you can access your videos, music and photos from your PC or from your DLNA mobile device - wirelessly and also have USB 2.0.If that is not factor I would suggest get Series 6.
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There is no big difference for series 6 and 7.They have same contrast ratio but series 7 have DLNA technology that you can access your videos, music and photos from your PC or from your DLNA mobile device - wirelessly and also have USB 2.0.If that is not factor I would suggest get Series 6.
If I am connecting this LED to my HTPC, then I just get series 6, so I can browse internet etc and play my vidoes, music and photo as well inside my HTPC, am i right?

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