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Old 01-05-2008, 11:42 AM   #1
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I just purchased a Samsung 5884, great TV . I have been read about a break in period. I asked sales reps at BB and CC and they said the break in period was not necessary. My BIL and brother have purchased plasma TV in the past 2 years and both have never heard of the break in period and have never had a problem with burn in or IR.

I noticed Samsung is saying:


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Opposing View on Break-In: Not all plasma owners believe a break-in period is necessary for the later generations of Samsung plasma sets. The Samsung factory supports this view. as of 2007, states: "Samsung Plasma TVs do not require a break-in period." Much concern and confusion over this issue is because both Pioneer and Panasonic published documents as late as 2004 stating their plasma sets required 1,000 hours of break-in. As of 2007, no plasma manufacturers suggest their sets require break-in. Some owners see this as good news, while some market analysts believe as plasmas continue to lose market share to LCD's, plasma manufacturers are no longer pointing out areas of concern that could impact sales. NET: Use your own best judgment.


I also called Samsung and the told me the same thing.


Is break in still necessary or is it a thing of the past with Plasma TVs?
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:10 PM   #2
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I just purchased a Samsung 5884, great TV . I have been read about a break in period. I asked sales reps at BB and CC and they said the break in period was not necessary. My BIL and brother have purchased plasma TV in the past 2 years and both have never heard of the break in period and have never had a problem with burn in or IR.

I noticed Samsung is saying:


http://www.samsungplasmatvfaq.com/in...mage_retention


Opposing View on Break-In: Not all plasma owners believe a break-in period is necessary for the later generations of Samsung plasma sets. The Samsung factory supports this view. as of 2007, states: "Samsung Plasma TVs do not require a break-in period." Much concern and confusion over this issue is because both Pioneer and Panasonic published documents as late as 2004 stating their plasma sets required 1,000 hours of break-in. As of 2007, no plasma manufacturers suggest their sets require break-in. Some owners see this as good news, while some market analysts believe as plasmas continue to lose market share to LCD's, plasma manufacturers are no longer pointing out areas of concern that could impact sales. NET: Use your own best judgment.


I also called Samsung and the told me the same thing.


Is break in still necessary or is it a thing of the past with Plasma TVs?
Break-in was an issue where people would take a brand new plasma display and turn on the channel guide for an hour. It had a tendancy to burn a still image in faster when brand new. Burn-in is essentially a thing of the past. Unless you watch the same image on the screen for say 2 days, you are going to have any problems.

If you are not sure, go easy on the static images on the screen for the first month or so. It's probably not even worth mentioning, but if you are really concerned, go easy with it. You certainly aren't going to hurt it by babying the display a little. But the peace of mind could be worth it.
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Phosphor based displays are susceptible to image retention. Period. It's a matter of physics. If you don't believe it, leave a static image on your screen for 48 hours (as the experts at Pioneer proved) and see for yourself. However, in real world usage, the problem is reduced because many consumers vary their programming such that there is no static image displayed for an appreciable period. Don't pause your DVD on screen and go to the store (unless it has a screen saver); don't keep your set on channels that constantly display tickers or solid channel logos at the same spot on the screen; don't run video games at the torch setting; reduce contrast by at least 50% during the first 100 hours of usage; use a video calibration DVD (I personally prefer Digital Video Essentials); don't use your display as a primary computer monitor. In other words, use good common sense and you will not have to worry about burn in.
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Phosphor based displays are susceptible to image retention. Period. It's a matter of physics. If you don't believe it, leave a static image on your screen for 48 hours (as the experts at Pioneer proved) and see for yourself. However, in real world usage, the problem is reduced because many consumers vary their programming such that there is no static image displayed for an appreciable period. Don't pause your DVD on screen and go to the store (unless it has a screen saver); don't keep your set on channels that constantly display tickers or solid channel logos at the same spot on the screen; don't run video games at the torch setting; reduce contrast by at least 50% during the first 100 hours of usage; use a video calibration DVD (I personally prefer Digital Video Essentials); don't use your display as a primary computer monitor. In other words, use good common sense and you will not have to worry about burn in.
where do i get that calibration dvd?
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You can get the DVE (Digital Video Essentials) Calibration disc on amazon and any BB or Circuit City.

You do not need to worry about burn in. You will get a bit of Image retention when the tv is still brand new. Burn in an Image retention are the same thing except burn in is permanent and IR is not. IR is when you have a static image on the screen like a guide or a logo for a bit. When you go to a black screen you can still see the logo a bit or you can still see a faint menu image. That is what IR is and it typically goes away by just watching a few minutes of a full screen moving image. After the first couple hundred hours on your plasma, you won't even get IR anymore.

When I first got my plasma, the loading screen of my dvd player (30 seconds on the screen) would leave a ghost image. The plasma was that sensitive, but always quickly went away. Now, I have almost 1000 hours, maybe a little less on my plasma, and I don't get any IR at all.

Long story short, you may get a little IR in the first couple hundred hours but don't worry. It will go away easily. Once you get past that period, you won't get any IR at all.
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360, I'm a bit curious and always looking to learn new things. Did I understand you to say that when your tv was new, you noticed image retention from an image displayed for 30 seconds? This seems a bit unusual. Where did you have your contrast/picture settings at that time?
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I have about 49 hours logged so far on my Pioneer Plasma. I have not used any break in DVD's or anything.

I have played Xbox 360, and im just carefull not to let static images sit on the screen for long periods of time. I dont have HD yet, so I keep all my SD programming on full screen or zoom if I have to.

I have not seen one bit of image retention on my screen at all...
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Neither have I on Panasonics, although I don't do any gaming. That's why I wondered about the poster who noticed ghosting after 30 seconds.
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i have has my samsung 5884 for 4 days now, i decided against the break in since samsung does not recommend it. i watch my regular TV shows/channels, ESPN, football games and xbox360. no problems.
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Good old Samsung. The renegade.
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i have has my samsung 5884 for 4 days now, i decided against the break in since samsung does not recommend it.
Samsubg should they have the most ir and burn in problems of all sets Ive seen on the net.
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does the break-in only apply to negative aspects like burn in and image retention or are there positive effects (better PQ?)
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Samsubg should they have the most ir and burn in problems of all sets Ive seen on the net.
Z, glad you said it. If Loves2watch or I had made the same statement, they'd call us biased or worse!!!
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I am considering purchasing this set and already own a Hitachi 50 inch 601 and I read that in the Hitachi they actually shift the static images by a pixel all the time which is what eliminates the problem with their sets. I love the plasma and now that you can purchase this set for about 3gs it seems like a great deal

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