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Old 02-03-2008, 09:02 PM   #661
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Like I said before my complete house is wired with RG59 and my panny is stunning......... in hd..........so tipstir I think mr. scott has you on that one dude.....
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:47 PM   #662
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Like I said before my complete house is wired with RG59 and my panny is stunning......... in hd..........so tipstir I think mr. scott has you on that one dude.....
Ditto here.

Tried the Philipps RG6 quad shield as tippy recommended. To me it looked worst than the RG6 18awg I had used earlier (see previous post of mine). Since RG6's didn't look any better than the original RG59 I had, took back the RG6.

Soooooo...if you have RG59 and contemplating on ripping it off for RG6, buy a test cable first and try it for yourself. No sense in spending moolah for something that won't improve your pq. RG59 works with HD, contrary to what someone here had claimed. Just my 2 pixels.

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Old 02-04-2008, 07:03 AM   #663
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My new house came pre wired with RG59, also has some kind of a amp for the signal, not sure why, maybe all the splitters coming off the main line? Anyway, I have 2 HD TV's, Cox highspeed internet, a desktop computer, 3 laptops running wireless, and am getting great pics on my HDTV.s and blazeing speed on the computers. (6mbps). All on RG59.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:02 AM   #664
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Like I said before my complete house is wired with RG59 and my panny is stunning......... in hd..........so tipstir I think mr. scott has you on that one dude.....

Z you're pretty smart dude, in my opinion.. You're been fair at times you go the other way, like most who hang out here. I am not sold on RG59 I never care for that coax (listen to me can't believe we're still talking about coax cable)

Demands of the HDTV, High Speed downloading and VOIP you got to use RG6 Quad. Just maybe most of you can get by with the RG59 as you all claim it has the best picture. One RG59 with all RG6 can cause issues with HDTV. This was the problem I had here still. If you start to un-roll the raw RG6 coax out of the truck should be able to do the entire house and replace all the RG59 that was here right. Sure enough with that still in place my HDTVs started showing poor PQ for CBS, NBC, FOX. It was the RG59 was the problem!

Scottnot seems to like using RG59 but I not sold on the idea like he is.. All the cables guys and senior, sups all agree with me that RG59 just can't handle the the heavy demands that's on cable tv and it's newer features. I want the best picture quailty for both SD and HD, just won't agree or put up with RG59 wavy lines, fuzzy images. That's a thin copper in the coax lead.

Well let's put lid on this subject as I 've asked and it's still on going..

Fiber cable will replace all of these in time with pluses of light.. In the home one day... I know they have finished running the new fiber for cable out in the pole...

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Ditto here.

Tried the Philipps RG6 quad shield as tippy recommended. To me it looked worst than the RG6 18awg I had used earlier (see previous post of mine). Since RG6's didn't look any better than the original RG59 I had, took back the RG6.

Soooooo...if you have RG59 and contemplating on ripping it off for RG6, buy a test cable first and try it for yourself. No sense in spending moolah for something that won't improve your pq. RG59 works with HD, contrary to what someone here had claimed. Just my 2 pixels.

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The reason you have these issues is that from the box to your condo splitter would have to be all RG6 and the splitter would have to be replaced from 900Mhz to 2.3GHz. Then from your outside spliter or if you have in the basement of where you live to your apartment then back to your TV. Then you would be suprise to see how good your can get with RG6. You can't mix the two to expect the quailty to be good. I've tried myself in Florida house and it just doesn't look good. So that too had to be cahnged out they use heavier copper or fiber all I know that's in a orange covering and it's thicker. I had coax in the ground bad move.

This house it's above ground. RG59 would have to be completely removed. So if you have RG59 now just keep it until you start to see PQ problems as that cable ages and the connectors start to get corided. If you live in a wet or humid climit.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:55 AM   #666
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- Threads don't always stay "on topic".
- All initial RG6/RG59 comments originated from tippy.
- My most recent authoritatively cited posts have been in direct response to questions from other forum members.
- Who put you in charge?
- Welcome to the forum.
Never claimed to be "in charge", it seems like there are already enough of you who have staked a claim to that title!
I was shopping for a 1080P HDTV for $999 or less. Saw the Sylvania, Googled it and got directed to this forum. Thought I might find some useful info! Guess again.
Y'all need to spend more time watching your HDTVs and less time on-line! All of this bla - bla - bla about nothing is worthless (other than entertainment, but isn't that why we have HDTVs?) Those of us who come to forums like this to find useful information on topics we are not well acquainted on obviously need to look elsewhere.
Any of you who suspected I was tipster, hope you did better predicting the winner of yesterday's Super Bowl!
Tipster, learn how to write, or at least proof read your posts! Even IF you are an 'authority" your posts come across as less than intelligent!
I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:20 AM   #667
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Very misinformed comments and no technically competent support.

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Demands of the HDTV, High Speed downloading and VOIP you got to use RG6 Quad.
This is totally FALSE information.
Please provide some authoritative citation or admit that you are totally incorrect.

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One RG59 with all RG6 can cause issues with HDTV.
False again.

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Scottnot seems to like using RG59
I know for a fact that there are no problems using RG59.

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All the cables guys and senior, sups all agree with me that RG59 just can't handle the the heavy demands that's on cable tv and it's newer features.
Then they are unfortunately misinformed, as are you.
You might want to ask them for just one authoritative source for such idiotic claims.

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. . . just won't agree or put up with RG59 wavy lines, fuzzy images.
The suggestion that RG59 will result in "wavy lines, fuzzy images" and such is misleading and has no technical basis whatsoever.
If there is a technically authoritative source to back up this absurd claim, please cite it!

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That's a thin copper in the coax lead.
Indeed, "most" RG59 uses 20 AWG solid center conductor and "most" RG6 uses 18 AWG solid center conductor.
The ONLY insignificant difference resulting from this is a minor improvement in attenuation when using RG6 vs RG59 of (on average) 1.6 dB over 100' of cable at 1.0 gHz.
If you are aware of any other technical differences please provide authoritative sources to confirm.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:37 AM   #668
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The reason you have these issues is that from the box to your condo splitter would have to be all RG6 and the splitter would have to be replaced from 900Mhz to 2.3GHz.
Totally incorrect.
The only system requiring 2.3 gHz cable or splitters is DishPro.
All other cable systems as well as OTA do not use frequencies above 1.0 gHz (and indeed, most do not approach this).
They do NOT specifiy or require the use of "rated cable", splitters, amplifiers or other passive hardware with bandwidth higher that 5-1000 mHz.
The reason for this is becasuse it works just fine and upgrading beyond the specifications will only increase cost but will not result in any improvement of signal level or picture quality.

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You can't mix the two (RG59 and RG6) to expect the quailty to be good.
Absolutely, completely FALSE!

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I've tried myself in Florida house
Anyone with any amount of technical knowledge, training and/or experience would know that a single "personal experience" proves absolutely nothing. Technical specifications, system requirements, and FACTS are what matters.

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So if you have RG59 now just keep it until you start to see PQ problems as that cable ages and the connectors start to get corided. If you live in a wet or humid climit.
But tippy, you have on several occasions advised that "RG59 can not work with HD", so it makes no sense to now advise the poster to continue to use it.
Which is it? Does it work or doesn't it?
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:22 AM   #669
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Hey tippy, one last comment . . .

As your supporter NoGeekHere has generously advised:

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Tipster, learn how to write, or at least proof read your posts! Even IF you are an 'authority" your posts come across as less than intelligent!
You really should consider his advice.
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[quote=cheezz;514772]Tried the Philipps RG6 quad shield as tippy recommended. To me it looked worst than the RG6 18awg I had used earlier (see previous post of mine). Since RG6's didn't look any better than the original RG59 I had, took back the RG6.

Based on things learned in the thread, RG6, if not better, should not be worse than RG59. Any reason why?
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Scott you need to drop this crap... I see you have so much time on you hands to type I just scroll through it. (consider a skimp read). Don't waste your time on trying to make your point clear on what to use. You use what you want! STOP WITH Naming calling and etc should stop as we're grown men here, not kid at school anymore.

DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE LIKE WRITE A BOOK ON THE SUBJECT YOU LIKE SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT....

Everyone is going to use what they want or have. I have rest my case...

HELLO ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

Now everyone on with what you do best...
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NOW WHO WATCHED THE SUPER BOWL on their Funai-- Clear Pixel Engine and Clear Pixel Plus kick-in nicely.. I am not a sport fans but will watch the came. I use to be the one who blocks the ball in HS days..

I had looked at the game on Element component video and the two funai's they use HDMI philips 24K gold plated cable and used optical sound through my 5.1 Pioneers.. Still think the HDMI looks better.
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I am taking a guess here, but I venture that Tipster may not have been born in the US. Not that it matters. It is just that English may not be his #1 language. Or it could be that he types so fast that too many typos occur. But I would have to agree that sometimes it is hard to follow what he is saying. I usually figure it out.

Not taking a shot at you Tipster, okay? I just have also noticed that deciphering your posts can be a challenge at times. My dad used to write like this, but it is because he lost a couple fingers and doesn't know how to type. Once he figured out the "spell check" feature of many applications, reading his messages became a lot easier.
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Based on things learned in the thread, RG6, if not better, should not be worse than RG59. Any reason why?
In reality and in practice, there will be no difference unless using either cable at the "margin of performance" of their specifications; and since the specifications of both cables are nearly identical, once beyond the "margin of performance" any impact on signal level or picture quality will also be similar for both types of cable.
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Scott you need to drop this crap...
Well tippy, you made certain claims, you continue to make them even though a great deal of authoritative information has been presented to demonstrate that your claims and statements were false, technically unfounded, incorrect and misleading.
Seems to me that a grown man would at least stop making false statements and even go so far at to apologize for misleading readers.

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Don't waste your time on trying to make your point clear on what to use. You use what you want! STOP WITH Naming calling and etc should stop as we're grown men here, not kid at school anymore.
What name calling?

Yes, grown men should have more sense than to post the sort of false information that you continue to post.
Why don't you retract those claims lest reader's perception of your intelligence and your credibility continue to lessen further.
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