I'm Leaving My Decision Up To You Guys!! Help Needed On Sony & Philips 32"!

hdtv_dude11 · 11-11-2007, 05:52 PM

I want to first start of by saying hello to everyone (I'm a new member). I have been researching these two particular LCD HDTV's for a while now, and I just can't seem to make up my mind! I was wondering if you guys could help and see what you would do if you were me. First off, the $ isn't an issue so you don't have to worry about the "more bang for your buck" because I really just want the television thats going to be better in performance (clarity, sound, etc.), reliability, quality, warranty, and features. Here are the two models: the Philips 32" LCD HDTV (model # 32PFL5332D) and the Sony Bravia M-Series LCD HDTV (model # KDL32M3000). You can look at them both on Circuit City's website (I cannot provide the links because I haven't made 5 posts yet...lol.)

The only differences I really see between the two are A. Contrast Ratio is 3200 on the Philips and 2500 on the Sony B. The Philips allows 1080P through the HDMI cable and Sony 1080i. I also want to mention that I'm going to be using the Television for watching TV through basic cable (no box) but my cable provider does have some unscrambled HD channels, I will be buying a Playstation 3 in the near-future which I will be playing Blu-Ray GAMES & MOVIES. I know the PS3 supports 1080P through the HDMI, but I don't really know if theres such a big difference between 1080i and 1080p. It will be mounted on a wall across from my bed approximately 7-9 feet from the end of my bed (pillow) to the wall. I really appreciate the help and input! I'm just very confused! Thank you!!!!

Codes20 · 11-11-2007, 06:15 PM

Sony. I wouldn't buy a Philips with someone else's money, regardless of the "specs" it may have.

Also, in that price range, there are better TVs than that. Look at Toshiba, Sharp, or Samsung.

z28rod · 11-11-2007, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Sony. I wouldn't buy a Philips with someone else's money, regardless of the "specs" it may have.

I agree totaly with the code mans post.

Loves2Watch · 11-11-2007, 10:49 PM

Check out the Toshiba Regza line of LCD TV's. I believe them to look much better than the 2 you mentioned.

BamaPanda · 11-12-2007, 08:24 AM

The Sony you mention will more than likely be my bedroom set after today. My local Sears affiliate has it for a net of 624.30 after discounts B4 taxes.
Looks to be a great choice, but I mainly am going with it because it is a good price + a name brand with good service backup.
The Philips? I would have no problem with it at all. They are a major player and make a great product. They don't have the mystique that the Sony name has, so you would probably not be able to 'WOW' the friends and family as much with a Philips.

BamaPanda · 11-12-2007, 08:35 AM

One more thing.
I am not sure how important this is, but if possible check and see if the Phillips or the Sony has what is called 'rigid columnar spacing'.
I was in Wally World last week and it was pretty easy to tell by pressing on the LCD screen with one finger. The Vizio and Philips lcd panels obviously had this new technology, as the pressure mark of the finger was way less pronounced. Others that I checked showed a strong finger imprint.
This is a new type panel being built by LG (others? don't know). The rigid division between pixels is said to give longer panel life with less degrading of the image due to shifting of the pixel walls.
That said - not really sure if this really makes a difference in the long haul. It is just some of the latest technology that is being offered up in lcd panels.

BamaPanda · 11-12-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaPanda

The Sony you mention will more than likely be my bedroom set after today. My local Sears affiliate has it for a net of 624.30 after discounts B4 taxes.
Looks to be a great choice, but I mainly am going with it because it is a good price + a name brand with good service backup.
The Philips? I would have no problem with it at all. They are a major player and make a great product. They don't have the mystique that the Sony name has, so you would probably not be able to 'WOW' the friends and family as much with a Philips.

DUD DEAL!!!

Made the drive in to Sears. The % that the lady told me of only applied to appliances.
Back to the drawing board? Just not ready to spend that many dollars for a bedroom TV.
(Viz at Wally World may be the option

)

LazerGuided · 11-12-2007, 11:15 AM

I would look into a SHARP. I have a 32" SHARP Aquos and absolutely love it. You can find which model in my signature.

z28rod · 11-12-2007, 03:01 PM

32" LCD TVs
32 inch TPV LCD HDTV L32W761 Staples $449.98
Olevia 32" LCD HDTV 232v at Kmart TG $419
Dynex 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at BB $449
Element 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at CC $399
Sharp 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at CC $599 LC32SH12U
Phillips 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at BB $599 32PFL5332D/37
Sony Bravia 32" LCD HDTV at $699 CC KDL32M3000
Sony Bravia 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV KDL32S3000 $999 Sears
Vizio 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV $598 Sears
Westinghouse - 32" Flat-Panel LCD HDTV SK-32H240S $579 BB (Currently)

37" LCD TVs
VIZIO $749.99 Costco/Walmart
rumor- Olevia 37 $299 at OD (VERY UNCONFIRMED)
Olevia 37" 237t Widescreen LCD HDTV - $549.00 - Target
Dynex 37" Widescreen LCD HDTV - $629 BB
LG" 37" Widescreen LCD HDTV - $899 Sears
X2Gen MV37R 37" display LCD HDTV - $649.99 NOW at Overstock and can use a $60 off code - if you don't want to wait - $590
SCOTT 37" 1080i LCD TV $699 RadioShack

40" LCD TVs
Polaroid 40" LCD HDTV $699 CC
Samsung 40" Widescreen LCD HDTV $1199 Sears

42" LCD TVs
Pre-BF: Sharp Aquos 42D64U 1080P Circuit City BM Purchased for 1199 - 10% (AAA) = 1079 + tax
Staples Envision 42 inch LCD HDTV L42W761 899 or 999 after 100 dollar
Sharp LC42D43U 42 inch LCD HDTV $799 CC
HP LC4276N 42 inch LCD HDTV 1080P $996 BB
Magnavox 42" Widescreen 1080P LCD HDTV $999 Costco
LG 42" Widescreen Plasma HDTV $899 Sears 42PC5D
Proscan 42" Widescreen Full 1080P HD LCD HDTV $899 Sears 42LA45H
Sylvania 42" Full-HD 1080P Widescreen LCD HDTV $899 Sears LC420SSR
Toshiba 42" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD HDTV $1249 Sears 42HL167
42" LCD Widesreen TV, L42w761 (TPV Brand) $749.98 Staples
Westinghouse - 42" 1080P LCD HDTV TX-42F430S $989 Currently on sale and 10%off may work to get to $891 BB

42" Plasma TVs
Panasonic TH-42PE7U 42" Plasma TV $899 BB
Panasonic TH42PX75U 42" Plasma TV $999 CC

46" LCD
Sharp Aquos $999 at Sears
Sharp Aquos 1080P $1299 at Circuit City
Samsung 46" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD HDTV $1999 Sears
Pre-BF: Sceptre 1080P $1299 w/2 year warranty @ Costco

47" LCD TV
Westinghouse - 47" 1080P LCD HDTV TX-47F430S $1299 BB (already $1299 at Costco)

50" LCD TVs

50" DLP / LCD Projection TV
Samsung 50" DLP Projection HDTV HLT5075S $799 CC
Sony 50" Widescreen Bravia 3 LCD 1080PProjection HDTV $1399 Sears

50" Plasma TVs
Pre-BF: Panasonic TH-50PZ77U 1080P plasma $1799 Circuit City
Samsung HPT5044 50" Plasma w/installation $1399 BB
Zenith 50" Plasma HDTV ZEN- Z50P3 - $999 CC
Samsung 50" Widescreen Plasma HDTV HPT5044 $1399 Sears
Vizio 50" Plasma HDTV with 3 HDMI inputs $999.99 Costco

52" LCD TV
Sharp 52" LCD HDTV LC52D64U 1080P $2199 CC
Pre-BF: Phillips HDTV 52PFL7422D/37 1920x1080P non-Ambilight $1699

56" LCD Projection TV
Panasonic 56" Widescreen LIFI 1080P HDTV PT-56LCZ70 $1199 Sears

61" DLP TV's
Samsung 61" Widescreen Full HD 1080P DLP HDTV $1999 Sears

65" DLP TV's
Toshiba 65" 1080P DLP HDTV $1499 CC
Mitsubishi 65" 1080P DLP Projection HDTV $1499 BB

iserum · 11-12-2007, 03:44 PM

i would suggest SONY, Philips have lot of problems, SAMSUNG is other ame i would suggest, for 32 inch if it accepts 1080i is good enough.

hdtv_dude11 · 11-12-2007, 03:56 PM

I really appreciate all the replies! From what I gathered, it seems that the Sony would be the better of the two, but also Samsung & Sharp I should consider aswell. I'll prob be researching some more Samsung's and Sharp's then make my decision. Thanks again!

BamaPanda · 11-12-2007, 07:32 PM

I ended going up with the Viz 32 from Walmart - but I am glad I have 90 days to return it. Maybe I can get the color better and not have to do that.
My wife and I are just spoiled by the natural color and depth on the LG 42" PDP.

e_buff · 12-09-2007, 12:44 AM

Neither of the sets that you mentioned are 1080 sets, only Sharp makes two 32" 1080p to choose from. All the sets mentioned can accept a 1080 signal, but none except the Sharp (ex. LC-32D62U) can generate a 1080p picture. I got mine from newegg for $999.99 delivered, but you can view one at Circuit City. Best Buy also sells another Sharp 32" 1080p which adds another HDMI inputs plus $100 to the price tag.

Loves2Watch · 12-09-2007, 01:26 AM

And don't forget to check out the highly praised Toshiba Regza. Many people fail to consider them but they are comparable with the best if not the best, that is PQ wise.

andie · 12-09-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

And don't forget to check out the highly praised Toshiba Regza. Many people fail to consider them but they are comparable with the best if not the best, that is PQ wise.

bought one of these, and i love it..btw my cablevision only charges $6 a month to get their HD box, plus u/get additional channels, incl. TMC which i love..maybe reconsider getting one. andie

11-11-2007, 05:52 PM	#1
hdtv_dude11 What is HD? Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2	I'm Leaving My Decision Up To You Guys!! Help Needed On Sony & Philips 32"! I want to first start of by saying hello to everyone (I'm a new member). I have been researching these two particular LCD HDTV's for a while now, and I just can't seem to make up my mind! I was wondering if you guys could help and see what you would do if you were me. First off, the $ isn't an issue so you don't have to worry about the "more bang for your buck" because I really just want the television thats going to be better in performance (clarity, sound, etc.), reliability, quality, warranty, and features. Here are the two models: the Philips 32" LCD HDTV (model # 32PFL5332D) and the Sony Bravia M-Series LCD HDTV (model # KDL32M3000). You can look at them both on Circuit City's website (I cannot provide the links because I haven't made 5 posts yet...lol.) The only differences I really see between the two are A. Contrast Ratio is 3200 on the Philips and 2500 on the Sony B. The Philips allows 1080P through the HDMI cable and Sony 1080i. I also want to mention that I'm going to be using the Television for watching TV through basic cable (no box) but my cable provider does have some unscrambled HD channels, I will be buying a Playstation 3 in the near-future which I will be playing Blu-Ray GAMES & MOVIES. I know the PS3 supports 1080P through the HDMI, but I don't really know if theres such a big difference between 1080i and 1080p. It will be mounted on a wall across from my bed approximately 7-9 feet from the end of my bed (pillow) to the wall. I really appreciate the help and input! I'm just very confused! Thank you!!!!

11-11-2007, 10:49 PM	#4
Loves2Watch SPAM Police Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ, NM, TX, MX Posts: 13,928	Check out the Toshiba Regza line of LCD TV's. I believe them to look much better than the 2 you mentioned. __________________ Theater 1 - Panasonic TH-85PF12U Plasma TV, 6 Conrad Johnson LP275M Amps, Anthem Statement D-2 Pre/Pro, 6 Thiel SCS4 Speakers, 2 REL T-1 Subs, Infinity Interlude 120S Sub, Simaudio MOON Orbiter Universal Disc Player, ELP Laser Turntable, 2 Dish Network ViP 622 DVR's, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray Player, Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD Player. Friends don't let friends buy Korean brand TV's.

11-12-2007, 08:24 AM	#5
BamaPanda Something will come to me Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Talladega County, Alabama Posts: 1,145	The Sony you mention will more than likely be my bedroom set after today. My local Sears affiliate has it for a net of 624.30 after discounts B4 taxes. Looks to be a great choice, but I mainly am going with it because it is a good price + a name brand with good service backup. The Philips? I would have no problem with it at all. They are a major player and make a great product. They don't have the mystique that the Sony name has, so you would probably not be able to 'WOW' the friends and family as much with a Philips. __________________ Everyone is a fan!

11-12-2007, 08:35 AM	#6
BamaPanda Something will come to me Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Talladega County, Alabama Posts: 1,145	One more thing. I am not sure how important this is, but if possible check and see if the Phillips or the Sony has what is called 'rigid columnar spacing'. I was in Wally World last week and it was pretty easy to tell by pressing on the LCD screen with one finger. The Vizio and Philips lcd panels obviously had this new technology, as the pressure mark of the finger was way less pronounced. Others that I checked showed a strong finger imprint. This is a new type panel being built by LG (others? don't know). The rigid division between pixels is said to give longer panel life with less degrading of the image due to shifting of the pixel walls. That said - not really sure if this really makes a difference in the long haul. It is just some of the latest technology that is being offered up in lcd panels. __________________ Everyone is a fan!

11-12-2007, 03:44 PM	#10
iserum High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,955	i would suggest SONY, Philips have lot of problems, SAMSUNG is other ame i would suggest, for 32 inch if it accepts 1080i is good enough. __________________ Panasonic 50PX80U/Pioneer BDP-51FD /Toshiba HD A1/Tivo HD SAMSUNG LNT-4661F/ Pioneer BDP-51FD/Dell XPS, Nvidia 9500 GT SONY BRAVIA 40V2500/40 GB PS3, WII, Intel Core 2 Duo with Nvidia 6800 Yamaha RXV1700 Def. Tech. Mythos III, V & Gems, Super Cube III Harmony Remote One Power Conditioner: Belkin PF40

11-11-2007, 06:15 PM	#2
Codes20 In need of speakers Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Age: 24 Posts: 1,343	Sony. I wouldn't buy a Philips with someone else's money, regardless of the "specs" it may have. Also, in that price range, there are better TVs than that. Look at Toshiba, Sharp, or Samsung.

11-12-2007, 11:15 AM	#8
LazerGuided HD world here I am!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 469	I would look into a SHARP. I have a 32" SHARP Aquos and absolutely love it. You can find which model in my signature.

11-12-2007, 03:01 PM	#9
z28rod I love my plasma Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 51 Posts: 1,699	32" LCD TVs 32 inch TPV LCD HDTV L32W761 Staples $449.98 Olevia 32" LCD HDTV 232v at Kmart TG $419 Dynex 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at BB $449 Element 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at CC $399 Sharp 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at CC $599 LC32SH12U Phillips 32" LCD HDTV w/ HDMI at BB $599 32PFL5332D/37 Sony Bravia 32" LCD HDTV at $699 CC KDL32M3000 Sony Bravia 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV KDL32S3000 $999 Sears Vizio 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV $598 Sears Westinghouse - 32" Flat-Panel LCD HDTV SK-32H240S $579 BB (Currently) 37" LCD TVs VIZIO $749.99 Costco/Walmart rumor- Olevia 37 $299 at OD (VERY UNCONFIRMED) Olevia 37" 237t Widescreen LCD HDTV - $549.00 - Target Dynex 37" Widescreen LCD HDTV - $629 BB LG" 37" Widescreen LCD HDTV - $899 Sears X2Gen MV37R 37" display LCD HDTV - $649.99 NOW at Overstock and can use a $60 off code - if you don't want to wait - $590 SCOTT 37" 1080i LCD TV $699 RadioShack 40" LCD TVs Polaroid 40" LCD HDTV $699 CC Samsung 40" Widescreen LCD HDTV $1199 Sears 42" LCD TVs Pre-BF: Sharp Aquos 42D64U 1080P Circuit City BM Purchased for 1199 - 10% (AAA) = 1079 + tax Staples Envision 42 inch LCD HDTV L42W761 899 or 999 after 100 dollar Sharp LC42D43U 42 inch LCD HDTV $799 CC HP LC4276N 42 inch LCD HDTV 1080P $996 BB Magnavox 42" Widescreen 1080P LCD HDTV $999 Costco LG 42" Widescreen Plasma HDTV $899 Sears 42PC5D Proscan 42" Widescreen Full 1080P HD LCD HDTV $899 Sears 42LA45H Sylvania 42" Full-HD 1080P Widescreen LCD HDTV $899 Sears LC420SSR Toshiba 42" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD HDTV $1249 Sears 42HL167 42" LCD Widesreen TV, L42w761 (TPV Brand) $749.98 Staples Westinghouse - 42" 1080P LCD HDTV TX-42F430S $989 Currently on sale and 10%off may work to get to $891 BB 42" Plasma TVs Panasonic TH-42PE7U 42" Plasma TV $899 BB Panasonic TH42PX75U 42" Plasma TV $999 CC 46" LCD Sharp Aquos $999 at Sears Sharp Aquos 1080P $1299 at Circuit City Samsung 46" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD HDTV $1999 Sears Pre-BF: Sceptre 1080P $1299 w/2 year warranty @ Costco 47" LCD TV Westinghouse - 47" 1080P LCD HDTV TX-47F430S $1299 BB (already $1299 at Costco) 50" LCD TVs 50" DLP / LCD Projection TV Samsung 50" DLP Projection HDTV HLT5075S $799 CC Sony 50" Widescreen Bravia 3 LCD 1080PProjection HDTV $1399 Sears 50" Plasma TVs Pre-BF: Panasonic TH-50PZ77U 1080P plasma $1799 Circuit City Samsung HPT5044 50" Plasma w/installation $1399 BB Zenith 50" Plasma HDTV ZEN- Z50P3 - $999 CC Samsung 50" Widescreen Plasma HDTV HPT5044 $1399 Sears Vizio 50" Plasma HDTV with 3 HDMI inputs $999.99 Costco 52" LCD TV Sharp 52" LCD HDTV LC52D64U 1080P $2199 CC Pre-BF: Phillips HDTV 52PFL7422D/37 1920x1080P non-Ambilight $1699 56" LCD Projection TV Panasonic 56" Widescreen LIFI 1080P HDTV PT-56LCZ70 $1199 Sears 61" DLP TV's Samsung 61" Widescreen Full HD 1080P DLP HDTV $1999 Sears 65" DLP TV's Toshiba 65" 1080P DLP HDTV $1499 CC Mitsubishi 65" 1080P DLP Projection HDTV $1499 BB

11-12-2007, 03:56 PM	#11
hdtv_dude11 What is HD? Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2	I really appreciate all the replies! From what I gathered, it seems that the Sony would be the better of the two, but also Samsung & Sharp I should consider aswell. I'll prob be researching some more Samsung's and Sharp's then make my decision. Thanks again!

11-12-2007, 07:32 PM	#12
BamaPanda Something will come to me Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Talladega County, Alabama Posts: 1,145	I ended going up with the Viz 32 from Walmart - but I am glad I have 90 days to return it. Maybe I can get the color better and not have to do that. My wife and I are just spoiled by the natural color and depth on the LG 42" PDP. __________________ Everyone is a fan!

12-09-2007, 12:44 AM	#13
e_buff High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 65	1080p LCD Neither of the sets that you mentioned are 1080 sets, only Sharp makes two 32" 1080p to choose from. All the sets mentioned can accept a 1080 signal, but none except the Sharp (ex. LC-32D62U) can generate a 1080p picture. I got mine from newegg for $999.99 delivered, but you can view one at Circuit City. Best Buy also sells another Sharp 32" 1080p which adds another HDMI inputs plus $100 to the price tag.

12-09-2007, 01:26 AM	#14
Loves2Watch SPAM Police Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ, NM, TX, MX Posts: 13,928	And don't forget to check out the highly praised Toshiba Regza. Many people fail to consider them but they are comparable with the best if not the best, that is PQ wise. __________________ Theater 1 - Panasonic TH-85PF12U Plasma TV, 6 Conrad Johnson LP275M Amps, Anthem Statement D-2 Pre/Pro, 6 Thiel SCS4 Speakers, 2 REL T-1 Subs, Infinity Interlude 120S Sub, Simaudio MOON Orbiter Universal Disc Player, ELP Laser Turntable, 2 Dish Network ViP 622 DVR's, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray Player, Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD Player. Friends don't let friends buy Korean brand TV's.

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