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Old 10-11-2007, 05:57 PM   #1
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I'm new to HDTV, but the wife has had some eye problems and so it's time to consider HD. We have an entertainment center that we don't want to change, which means the largest TV that fits is a 37" and only if the speakers are not on the sides.

I was told by someone that since only Blu-Ray is at 1080p (whatever that means), there is NO advantage to getting a 1080p TV. Another sales-person said that even regular DVDs and cable/satelite digital TV will look better and sharper on a 1080p TV than on a 720p/1080i TV. WHO IS CORRECT?

Secondly, since I live in exurbia (beyond the suburbs, but not quite rural) there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, since I will use my cable box or satellite box as the tuner. IS THIS TRUE AS WELL?

Thirdly, I tape a lot of programs on my VHS (I don't want to pay for TIVO until my VHS machines die.), plus I have a large collection of VHSs that we still watch. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WIRING AND WATCHING VHS ON AN LCD HDTV?

Fourth, for a 37" set should I go with LCD or plasma?

Lastly, being 60+ I play no games (i.e. no XBOX, etc.), nor ever will, so I just need a TV that presents a good picture off of my satellite, DVD player and VHS player.

I don't have the big bucks for Sony, Panasonic, etc. A friend suggested the Westinghouse LCV 1080p tuner ($900 at BuyPCNation) or the Magnavox 1080 TV (w/tuner) ($1,000 at Sam's).

What are your suggestions?

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Well first whoever told you blu ray was the only format with 1080p is wrong. Both HD DVD and blu ray have machines that can output 1080p signals. As far as getting a 1080p tv you really wouldn't see the difference between a 1080i or 1080p at the size you are getting. Don't waste your money. If I were you I would wait until black friday which is the best day to get deals on anything electronic. Google black friday for more info.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:48 PM   #3
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the largest TV that fits is a 37" and only if the speakers are not on the sides.

I was told by someone that since only Blu-Ray is at 1080p (whatever that means), there is NO advantage to getting a 1080p TV. Another sales-person said that even regular DVDs and cable/satelite digital TV will look better and sharper on a 1080p TV than on a 720p/1080i TV. WHO IS CORRECT?
Both are correct, sort of.

Yes, very little content is actually available in 1080p, except Blu-Ray, HD DVD, and several game stations. However, that applies to the INPUT to the television, which must not be confused with the screen DISPLAY resolution of the set.

The second sales-person was talking about screen display. These come in two main flavors with HD sets; in pixels, these are 1280x720 and 1920x1080. Most often these are expresed as screen resolutions of 720p and 1080p and since the 1080p has 50% more lines than the 720p that it can provide a sharper picture . . . HOWEVER, with a 37" set and at normal viewing distances you will NEVER be able to see the difference. Since 1080 sets are more expensive than 720 sets you should shop for a 1280x720 set.

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Secondly, since I live in exurbia (beyond the suburbs, but not quite rural) there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, since I will use my cable box or satellite box as the tuner. IS THIS TRUE AS WELL?
Correct, there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, but you will find that just about all sets do have tuners, so it is pretty much a non-issue.

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Thirdly, I tape a lot of programs on my VHS (I don't want to pay for TIVO until my VHS machines die.), plus I have a large collection of VHSs that we still watch. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WIRING AND WATCHING VHS ON AN LCD HDTV?
Not any real problem, except any defects in the tapes may be somewhat amplified because of the increased resolution of the HD set - remember, your old set displayed only 480 lines of resolution while your new set will display 720 lines of resolution.

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Fourth, for a 37" set should I go with LCD or plasma?
For 37", I don't think you can get a plasma set. LCD is fine, if not great.

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Lastly, being 60+ I play no games (i.e. no XBOX, etc.), nor ever will, so I just need a TV that presents a good picture off of my satellite, DVD player and VHS player.
There are many to choose from.

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I don't have the big bucks for Sony, Panasonic, etc. A friend suggested the Westinghouse LCV 1080p tuner ($900 at BuyPCNation) or the Magnavox 1080 TV (w/tuner) ($1,000 at Sam's).
The above are 1080; you don't need that.

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What are your suggestions?
I saw a Sanyo 720p at Walmart today for $750. Great looking set.
Also, don't count out Vizio.
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I'm new to HDTV, but the wife has had some eye problems and so it's time to consider HD. We have an entertainment center that we don't want to change, which means the largest TV that fits is a 37" and only if the speakers are not on the sides.

I was told by someone that since only Blu-Ray is at 1080p (whatever that means), there is NO advantage to getting a 1080p TV. Another sales-person said that even regular DVDs and cable/satelite digital TV will look better and sharper on a 1080p TV than on a 720p/1080i TV. WHO IS CORRECT?

Secondly, since I live in exurbia (beyond the suburbs, but not quite rural) there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, since I will use my cable box or satellite box as the tuner. IS THIS TRUE AS WELL?

Thirdly, I tape a lot of programs on my VHS (I don't want to pay for TIVO until my VHS machines die.), plus I have a large collection of VHSs that we still watch. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WIRING AND WATCHING VHS ON AN LCD HDTV?

Fourth, for a 37" set should I go with LCD or plasma?

Lastly, being 60+ I play no games (i.e. no XBOX, etc.), nor ever will, so I just need a TV that presents a good picture off of my satellite, DVD player and VHS player.

I don't have the big bucks for Sony, Panasonic, etc. A friend suggested the Westinghouse LCV 1080p tuner ($900 at BuyPCNation) or the Magnavox 1080 TV (w/tuner) ($1,000 at Sam's).

What are your suggestions?
Get the 37" panasonic (look on ebay) if you want the best picture.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:33 PM   #5
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Get the 37" panasonic (look on ebay) if you want the best picture.
Is that a "fact" or an "opinion"?
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:50 AM   #6
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If you can get to Costco, Vizio has a nice 37" LCD with speakers on the bottom. I use in my master bedroom and am extremely happy with the PQ. They also give a 2 yr warranty and I think I paid $799. They have dropped since that I believe.

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Old 10-12-2007, 06:25 PM   #8
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Thanks to everyone. Unless someone else adds a new twist to the issue, I will go for the 720p LCD.

On eBay there are firms in New Jersey and Pennsylvania that auction off 37 inchers that seem to go around $600 to $750. Some of the models are listed below

Toshiba Regza 37" LCD HDTV 37HL17
Samsung 37" LCD HDTV LN-T375HA
Vizio L37HDTV10A 37"
SHARP LC-C3742U 37" AQUOS

First, do you have any recommendations?

Second, since these are "open box," there is no manufacturer's warranty. Should I stay away from such auctions?

Lastly, having been born and raised in Pittsburgh, and since I still bleed black and gold, I like Gerbo's tatoo.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:03 PM   #9
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Secondly, since I live in exurbia (beyond the suburbs, but not quite rural) there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, since I will use my cable box or satellite box as the tuner. IS THIS TRUE AS WELL?
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...Correct, there is no need to buy a TV with a tuner, but you will find that just about all sets do have tuners, so it is pretty much a non-issue...
Just a point of clarification regarding receiving HD signals via a STB (Set Top Box)... It is very likely that you would need to upgrade your current equipment to receive HD signals to feed your new HDTV. You may want to contact your programming provider for additional information, as there will likely be an additional expense incurred to "get HD."
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Thirdly, I tape a lot of programs on my VHS (I don't want to pay for TIVO until my VHS machines die.), plus I have a large collection of VHSs that we still watch. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WIRING AND WATCHING VHS ON AN LCD HDTV?
Given that you will probably need to "upgrade" your STB if you want to receive HD programming from your current provider, it may be worth the investment to upgrade to an HD DVR (Digital Video Recorder). This might replace your VHS/VCR for regular recording duty. You would probably not be dissapointed by this, however.

Finally, I'm not a fan of on-line purchases for something like an HDTV. This is just my opinion, of course but, I'd prefer to go through a reputable B&M (Brick & Mortar) store with a tangible warranty policy.

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Old 10-12-2007, 08:07 PM   #10
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...Lastly, having been born and raised in Pittsburgh, and since I still bleed black and gold, I like Gerbo's tatoo.
The Steelers look good on a 13-inch black and white set.

But they look great in HD!!
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:50 AM   #11
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Some of the models are listed below

Toshiba Regza 37" LCD HDTV 37HL17
Samsung 37" LCD HDTV LN-T375HA
Vizio L37HDTV10A 37"
SHARP LC-C3742U 37" AQUOS

First, do you have any recommendations?
Any of these would be an excellet choice, consider price, cabinet color, speaker location, cabinet finish that looks best to you; it could be final set of defining factors.

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Second, since these are "open box," there is no manufacturer's warranty. Should I stay away from such auctions?
How often do you go to Atlantic City????

I'd stay away . . . . FAR FAR away from any such auctions.
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I expect that this will be my last entry on this thread. I discovered on-line that Toshiba just released a 40" LCD TV with a Super Narrow Bezel that fits my entertainment center. It lists around $1800, but is available for about $1400.

It is a 1080p TV. Will the difference between the 1080p and 720p machines be noticeable on a 40" unit? Do you think it is worth the extra money? Lastly, do you think Toshiba (or any other brand) will put out a 40" narrow bezel 720p model or will they all go to 1080p?

What are your thoughts?
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I discovered on-line that Toshiba just released a 40" LCD TV with a Super Narrow Bezel that fits my entertainment center. It lists around $1800, but is available for about $1400.
Those are great looking sets - next time I'm ready to buy they will be high on my list.

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It is a 1080p TV. Will the difference between the 1080p and 720p machines be noticeable on a 40" unit? Do you think it is worth the extra money?
You probably won't see much difference on a 40" set with much of your viewing. But, it is a higher resolution and with 1080i and 1080p sources might very well provide a better picture.

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Lastly, do you think Toshiba (or any other brand) will put out a 40" narrow bezel 720p model or will they all go to 1080p?
As for narrwo bezels . . . it's such a great design feature, I would expect others to follow suit.

Unfortunately, manufacturer's are pushing 1080p because of the higher profit margins, but a 720p narrow bezel would be a natural for some niche markets, so, let's keep our fingers crossed.
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A not bad choice for a first HDTV in the size/price range would be a VIZIO VX37L. It is under $800; it is 36.2" wide and the speakers are on the bottom of the set. Resolution is 1366 X 768. Has lots of features for the $ . . .
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1080p sets take 1080i singals and de-interlace them. i have a 1080p 40in lcd set to native and 1080i broadcasts look noticably better then 720p broadcasts in my opionion. i got 1080p for PS3, and blu-ray, but this difference in non-1080p broadcasts was a plesant surprise, and makes me very happy i got a 1080p set.
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