is 8ms response time sufficient...

Zazz · 12-25-2006, 08:16 PM

Is 8ms response time sufficient for high definition movies such as Blue-Ray and games?
I have a 17" Samsung LCD monitor with 8ms at the moment, and there is no noticable ghosting. so I was wondering whether on big screen TVs the ghosting is more noticable or not, if its the same then 8ms should be good.
the reason i ask is I'm currently interested in Samsung LN-S4695D LCD TV.

BamaPanda · 12-25-2006, 08:27 PM

Most will tell you that the 72 Mhz refresh rate on PDP is far superior to an 8 ms. LCD.
Take heart - Sharp has some new 4 ms. LCD's - pretty sure.

borromini · 12-25-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaPanda

Most will tell you that the 72 Mhz refresh rate on PDP is far superior to an 8 ms LCD...

Zazz · 12-25-2006, 08:49 PM

yes I did see the Sharp Aquos 46" 4ms ; however, I've read some reviews like on CNet and some people are complaing that they have some picture problems...

PDP = ?

that's why I shifted to Samsung LN-S4695D 8ms and was wondering whether 8ms will be sufficient.

borromini · 12-25-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zazz

Is 8ms response time sufficient for high definition movies such as Blue-Ray and games?...

For movies...not a problem, but games are not guaranteed to perform great since published specs aren't always accurate.

borromini · 12-25-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zazz

PDP = ?...

PDP=Plasma Display Panel

BamaPanda · 12-25-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by borromini

I had just read quite a few folk that said pretty much that very thing, and it has been my experience on the sales end.
"Far superior" might be a bit strong, though.

Razor05 · 12-25-2006, 10:26 PM

I just seen a Samsung computer monitor with a 2ms response time. That's getting pretty fast.

borromini · 12-25-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaPanda

I had just read quite a few folk that said pretty much that very thing, and it has been my experience on the sales end.
"Far superior" might be a bit strong, though.

First of all, I believe you meant to say 72Hz...not MHz. If you've in fact read this...it's apples to orange comparison and if it had any bearing on the OP's question...it's ultimately quite useless today since there is only one or two very expensive displays with 72Hz refresh rate.

BamaPanda · 12-25-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by borromini

First of all, I believe you meant to say 72Hz...not MHz. If you've in fact read this...it's apples to orange comparison and if it had any bearing on the OP's question...it's ultimately quite useless today since there is only one or two very expensive displays with 72Hz refresh rate.

Yes, I did mean 72Hz, and I must have misread something. In your experience though - $ for $ - is not the PDP faster than an equivalently priced LCD?

borromini · 12-25-2006, 11:19 PM

Yes...PDP is definitely faster than LCDs in pixel response time regardless of the refresh rate. Whether that automatically means the OP should buy a PDP is another matter.

BamaPanda · 12-26-2006, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor05

I just seen a Samsung computer monitor with a 2ms response time. That's getting pretty fast.

Love to see a review on that one. Many times the response time on PC LCD's is a bit optimistic.
Do you have a link?

HDDVDSupport · 12-26-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaPanda

Most will tell you that the 72 Mhz refresh rate on PDP is far superior to an 8 ms. LCD.
Take heart - Sharp has some new 4 ms. LCD's - pretty sure.

As borromini has ponited out, refresh rate and response times are two different animals. PDPs have much faster response times than even the top of the line LCDs.

Zazz · 12-27-2006, 04:44 PM

So 8ms should be good for DVD and Blue-Ray movies and casual gaming?

borromini · 12-27-2006, 11:56 PM

I think so...some sets like the Sony XBR2 LCD series have a "game mode" option that optimizes the screen's performance for games.

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borromini HT Frontiersman Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 9,822	I think so...some sets like the Sony XBR2 LCD series have a "game mode" option that optimizes the screen's performance for games. __________________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"

12-25-2006, 08:49 PM	#4
Zazz My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9	yes I did see the Sharp Aquos 46" 4ms ; however, I've read some reviews like on CNet and some people are complaing that they have some picture problems... PDP = ? that's why I shifted to Samsung LN-S4695D 8ms and was wondering whether 8ms will be sufficient.

12-27-2006, 04:44 PM	#14
Zazz My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9	So 8ms should be good for DVD and Blue-Ray movies and casual gaming?