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Old 09-15-2010, 08:33 AM   #136
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...Sorry Dsskid, but my whadda' ya think? question was not directed specifically at you, but at the forum in general....
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I think Robert's previous statement should explain why Runco wasn't represented.
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Actually both, current and the new crop of 3D HDTVs. Calibrating, testing and evaluating 3D TVs is new, but our team has developed some very smart ways to accommodate the anomalies that 3D creates for our calibrators and the judging audience. One thing I can say about the 3D evaluation is that we're expecting to receive the very first production of Universal glasses so the attendees can scan across the shoot-out wall and easily compare the 3D performance with varied 3D content.

I can't disclose more details at this moment as we are still testing and verifying our techniques.

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...I don't wish to be misunderstood here... I applaud Robert for the shoot-out his company sponsers annually, probably at great expense to do so and they desereve a big pat on the back.....
I guess in a perfect world however we could see an HD display shoot out with all makes and models of HD Displays included, projectors, RP, Flat-panel and some of the unfamiliar manufacturers included with what they have to offer....names like Loewe, and Runco... manufacturers you rarely see mentioned on this forum if ever.
Perhaps in the future the HDF can host an all inclusive HD shootout of that nature, HD is after all what we do!.....

Hey!, I know let's get Lee Stewart to do it......He's Rich!

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CNet wrote a nice article about the ValueElectronics.com shootout

Post on David Katzmeir's CNet article comments section if you like.

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Robert. The set you had in the shootout were the sets the MFGs sent you right? I mean they determined what set represented them correct?
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Well yes, in a way... Because the C8000 has precision dimming Samsung recommended the UN55C8000.

For different reasons Sony's LCD product manager, Robert Rodriguez and Pablo Espinoza wanted to show Sony's KDL-55NX810 because it was Sony's latest mid year LED and has a stunning monolithic design and it was a 55" panel. The XBR-909 is 52". Our class was 55" or larger LED and plasmas 58" or larger.

It turned out to be a wise choice as Sony's NX810 performed beautifully and looked gorgeous when on and off.

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I commented on the article. A couple of people thought that other Sony models should have been chosen for it, but me & another poster reminded them that it was Sony's choice what to send.
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...No mention of the shoot-out being 3D exclusive.....and as for the best panel....well, how can we judge if top of line models are not present?
I assume since Value Electronics is not a Runco dealer it would not benefit them to include those models in the contest....whadda' ya think?
Hi pappylap,

No, I don't think that follows. ValueElectronics also does not sell the Sony NX810, but they still used one in the shootout just because that's the one Sony wanted them to use. Heck, they even tried to get a TV that is not available for sale anywhere in the US, but the maker wouldn't do it. Having been to three of the shootouts now, I am confident that they are not about drumming up sales: they're about testing and comparing the top TVs and about trying to drive the technology forward.

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EDIT: D'OH!! I posted before I read the other replies on this. Sorry, pappylap--didn't mean to throw in a bunch of redundant stuff that you've already addressed. NOTE TO SELF: always read the full thread before posting replies. D'oh d'oh d'oh d'oh d'oh.
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CNet wrote a nice article about the ValueElectronics.com shootout

Post on David Katzmeir's CNet article comments section if you like.

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Robert it looks like your shootout has gained popularity and respect throughout the industry, Congratulations. It's nice to see an event where there is no pre-determined agenda and all the comparisons are completely unbiased.
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Robert. The set you had in the shootout were the sets the MFGs sent you right? I mean they determined what set represented them correct?
Actually, other than the Sony 55NX810, which Sony's LCD product manager chose, our panel of experts and myself selected the TVs for the event.

We tested many TVs from just about every major manufacturer and the ones that made it into the final selection were the ones that delivered the very best pq. For example we picked Samsung's UN55C8000 over the more expensive UN55C9000. The C8000 delivers a better pq as the precision dimming can control the black level in smaller areas of the panel yielding a higher contrast ratio.

Strictly for overall pq, several manufacturers and models were eliminated so the ones that made the shoot-out are the finalists.

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Actually, other than the Sony 55NX810, which Sony's LCD product manager chose, our panel of experts and myself selected the TVs for the event.

We tested many TVs from just about every major manufacturer and the ones that made it into the final selection were the ones that delivered the very best pq. For example we picked Samsung's UN55C8000 over the more expensive UN55C9000. The C8000 delivers a better pq as the precision dimming can control the black level in smaller areas of the panel yielding a higher contrast ratio.

Strictly for overall pq, several manufacturers and models were eliminated so the ones that made the shoot-out are the finalists.

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All were well chosen also, may I add. unfortunate that Toshiba had nothing to provide ?
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Panasonic just announced our crowning the VT25 "The King of HDTV" on their site.

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Panasonic just announced our crowning the VT25 "The King of HDTV" on their site.

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Congratulations Robert, for having the insight to present that event as well as you did ...Kudos looking forward to the next one !
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Sweet!

Great work Robert and it is nice that your store can get some national exposure for all the hard work you have done for all these years with the annual shootout.
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