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Old 04-22-2010, 06:29 PM   #1
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This is probably a sore topic by now but I'm new here and i did a quick search on film mode and could only find 4 posts or so and had nothing to do with what I'm experiencing.

My wife and I sat down and went to watch a movie the other night and was playing with the TV to find out if it looked any better after setting it up with the HD Basics Blu-Ray.

I have a Sharp LC-46LE700UN and a PS3 set to output 24p. The TV is 120hz and recognizes 24p input. This thing is crazy with the settings so I finally got the colors, sharpness, contrast and brightness set. I went to play with the Fine Motion and Film Mode settings and cannot for the life of me figure out why the film mode low and high settings make the picture increase the jitter/judder.

I thought the film mode was actually supposed to recognize 24p and correct the frames for a better picture.

The Fine motion really makes no difference so I'm really not to concerned with it.

Thanks for your help guys.

Oh yea this is my first post. lol
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Read this sticky in this section:

2:3 (sometimes called 3:2) pulldown simply explained in layman's terms

Many times the 120/240Hz LCDs when set to interpolate the frames instead of just repeating the same frame (5:5 pulldown or 10:10 pulldown) enough times for an even multiple of 24 you get what is often referred to as the Soap Opera Effect (SOE). It makes the film look like video instead of film when the display interpolates the frames by guessing how the scene changes on each repeat of the same frame.

Try turning off smooth motion completely and that should still give you straight 5:5 pulldown to smooth out judder but without the fake SOE look.

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Old 04-22-2010, 07:16 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply. Great sticky really explains the 24p pretty good.

I turned the fine motion off and I still notice the jitter with the film mode settings at both advanced low and advanced high. I turn everything off and the movies look ok, but according to the manual the film mode is supposed to increase the picture quality of 24p input.

The TV does a good job at recognizing the 24p input, looks pretty good, but just trying to get the best picture possible.

Probably should just leave it off. Some say all the new advanced settings on todays TV's should be left alone anyway.

Again thanks for your help and quick response.

Any others with good or bad experiences with this TV in general?
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When I use my Cinema Mode to watch blu-ray at 24p it has to be at the setting that is suggested in the manual which is movie mode. Otherwise I get a ghosting effect during dark scenes. Once on movie mode, which the manual suggests, it's good. I have a samsung plasma.
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