LCD vs Plasma who rules?

pappylap · 10-20-2009, 11:26 AM

I still see in post after post that myths still prevail in a large number of new postings to this forum and since the Mods seem reluctant to create a Sticky addressing the pros and cons of each technology here is a summary of each techs strong and weak points as seen by an owner of both techs and a long time fan of HDTV...

LCD
Pros

lightweight, smaller screen sizes available, good in brightly lit rooms, considered safer when used as a computer monitor, non glare matte screens...Maybe slightly more energy efficient unless the majority of your viewing habits are movies, no break in period, take less consideration to set up and use.

Cons

Glare will still be a consideration if buying a high end LCD/LED as these also use glass screens to render better blacks and higher contrast ratios, cost more than larger Plasma esp the high end sets, more likely to be damaged as the plastic matte screens are not resistant to even small impacts, shorter life span backlight will eventually need to be replaced, Plasma will dim over time but will still be functioning long after the LCD is in the trash bid, viewing angles even with the new LED/LCD off axis viewing is still a large concern (fighting for that sweet spot directly in front of the screen), motion blur with fast moving images even with 240 hz processing is way behind the the speed of Plasma. Black level detail while LCD is getting better at producing black level the fine detail contained in these darker images is lost. Unnatural color processing in the non high end sets life like skin tones are nearly impossible to attain. 240 hz processing causes film to appear as though shot in video ( I can't imagine watching the "Godfather" and having it appear as if it is a soap opera)

PLASMA
Pros

Large screen size virtually no screens less than 42" in size. Deep black levels and fine dark area detail. Good natural color processing with great skin tone reproduction. Long time investment although plasma will dim over time it will take around 100,000 of use to get to half life of the panel. Durable heavy glass screens are much more injury proof than the LCD matte screens (Dont believe it? you can punch a hole in the LCD matte screen with your finger!) Virtually no motion blur image processing is approximatly 1000 times faster than LCD. Off axis viewing is a non issue with plasma ( no fighting for the sweet spot) Cost less a good 50" plasma will be cheaper than a 46" 1st tier manufactured LCD. Actually can be more energy efficient if properly calibrated.

Cons

Glass screens have glare issues in brightly lit rooms. Burn in plasma can still suffer from this problem, static images for long periods of time can be damaging (neglect from the consumer is the major contributing factor here) Weight heavier than the matte screen LCD because of the additional weight of the glass. Large size only available in 42" or larger (not good if space is a concern) Break-in period for proper aging of the plasma cells this is still strongly recommended during the first 200 hours of use. (some videophiles consider this a perk kinda like pampering your new "baby")

Well there you have it hope this highlights the good and bad points of each technology for current and future owners of HDTV

Loves2Watch · 10-20-2009, 11:39 AM

Plasma Rules...

Techlord · 10-20-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Plasma Rules...

Plasma does rule, +1! Shadow detail, no motion blurr and inky black levels.

tRidiot · 10-20-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

Plasma does rule, +1! Shadow detail, no motion blurr and inky black levels.

But God, the ENERGY BILLS!!!!!

Don't you feel guilty for killing Mother Gaia every time you turn on your TV????

House72 · 10-20-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot

But God, the ENERGY BILLS!!!!!

Don't you feel guilty for killing Mother Gaia every time you turn on your TV????

Nope, and I cruise the streets in my gas guzzling sports cars too...

Plasma all the way...

tRidiot · 10-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by House72

Nope, and I cruise the streets in my gas guzzling sports cars too...

Plasma all the way...

Better than a giant SUV.... with a PLASMA SCREEN IN IT!!!

House72 · 10-20-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot

Better than a giant SUV.... with a PLASMA SCREEN IN IT!!!

LOL, well let's not pick on the soccer Milfs..

tRidiot · 10-20-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by House72

LOL, well let's not pick on the soccer Milfs..

Milfs...mmmmm....

Pick on them???? Not exactly what I had in mind....

pappylap · 10-20-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by House72

LOL, well let's not pick on the soccer Milfs..

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Originally Posted by tRidiot

Milfs...mmmmm....

Pick on them???? Not exactly what I had in mind....

Not exactly the direction I had envisioned this thread taking...........

Techlord · 10-20-2009, 08:46 PM

Everyone who has air conditioning can afford to run a plasma!

DIRECTVMAN · 10-21-2009, 12:27 AM

Everyone that has a clock radio can afford to run a plasma !

It's not as if you'll see a big spike in the electric bill the first month after getting a plasma TV.

rslamon · 10-21-2009, 08:20 AM

My Panny has the Energy Star logo on the front. So far I have not seen a huge increase in my utilty bills and the TV is on at least 8 hrs a day.

iserum · 10-21-2009, 09:51 AM

plasma rules.......

it consumes same or fraction more power than comparable LCD.

emachine1 · 10-21-2009, 12:53 PM

Well plasmas do have price preference they are cheaper compare to lcds.....

Techlord · 10-21-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by emachine1

Well plasmas do have price preference they are cheaper compare to lcds.....

They also outperform LCDs in every way, black levels, shadow detail, viewing angles, color accuracy and do not suffer from motion blurr.

10-20-2009, 11:26 AM	#1
pappylap Poopmaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Way over Yonder Age: 4 Posts: 2,879	LCD vs Plasma who rules? I still see in post after post that myths still prevail in a large number of new postings to this forum and since the Mods seem reluctant to create a Sticky addressing the pros and cons of each technology here is a summary of each techs strong and weak points as seen by an owner of both techs and a long time fan of HDTV... LCD Pros lightweight, smaller screen sizes available, good in brightly lit rooms, considered safer when used as a computer monitor, non glare matte screens...Maybe slightly more energy efficient unless the majority of your viewing habits are movies, no break in period, take less consideration to set up and use. Cons Glare will still be a consideration if buying a high end LCD/LED as these also use glass screens to render better blacks and higher contrast ratios, cost more than larger Plasma esp the high end sets, more likely to be damaged as the plastic matte screens are not resistant to even small impacts, shorter life span backlight will eventually need to be replaced, Plasma will dim over time but will still be functioning long after the LCD is in the trash bid, viewing angles even with the new LED/LCD off axis viewing is still a large concern (fighting for that sweet spot directly in front of the screen), motion blur with fast moving images even with 240 hz processing is way behind the the speed of Plasma. Black level detail while LCD is getting better at producing black level the fine detail contained in these darker images is lost. Unnatural color processing in the non high end sets life like skin tones are nearly impossible to attain. 240 hz processing causes film to appear as though shot in video ( I can't imagine watching the "Godfather" and having it appear as if it is a soap opera) PLASMA Pros Large screen size virtually no screens less than 42" in size. Deep black levels and fine dark area detail. Good natural color processing with great skin tone reproduction. Long time investment although plasma will dim over time it will take around 100,000 of use to get to half life of the panel. Durable heavy glass screens are much more injury proof than the LCD matte screens (Dont believe it? you can punch a hole in the LCD matte screen with your finger!) Virtually no motion blur image processing is approximatly 1000 times faster than LCD. Off axis viewing is a non issue with plasma ( no fighting for the sweet spot) Cost less a good 50" plasma will be cheaper than a 46" 1st tier manufactured LCD. Actually can be more energy efficient if properly calibrated. Cons Glass screens have glare issues in brightly lit rooms. Burn in plasma can still suffer from this problem, static images for long periods of time can be damaging (neglect from the consumer is the major contributing factor here) Weight heavier than the matte screen LCD because of the additional weight of the glass. Large size only available in 42" or larger (not good if space is a concern) Break-in period for proper aging of the plasma cells this is still strongly recommended during the first 200 hours of use. (some videophiles consider this a perk kinda like pampering your new "baby") Well there you have it hope this highlights the good and bad points of each technology for current and future owners of HDTV __________________ Bar Wench...Where's my Waffle! You can checkout anytime you like but you can never leave.." 50"Pioneer KURO 111FD Pro Elite Pioneer BD320 Blu-ray player Pioneer VSX-919AH A/V Receiver 32" & 37" Olevia LCDs Sony DHG HDD 500 gig DVR Samsung DTBH260 Digital Tuner One Roll of Charmin Quilted Plus in each Bathroom...

10-20-2009, 11:39 AM	#2
Loves2Watch SPAM Police Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ, NM, TX, MX Posts: 13,972	Plasma Rules... __________________ Theater 1 - Panasonic TH-85PF12U Plasma TV, 6 Conrad Johnson LP275M Amps, Anthem Statement D-2 Pre/Pro, 6 Thiel SCS4 Speakers, 2 REL T-1 Subs, Infinity Interlude 120S Sub, Simaudio MOON Orbiter Universal Disc Player, ELP Laser Turntable, 2 Dish Network ViP 622 DVR's, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray Player, Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD Player.

10-20-2009, 08:46 PM	#10
Techlord High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 1,126	Everyone who has air conditioning can afford to run a plasma! __________________ I'll admit when I am wrong, why live in denial? I should have bought a Panasonic Plasma! Samsung LN52B750 240Hz LCD HDTV Oppo Digital BDP-83 Denon AVR-5700 THX Ultra Certified Receiver M&K Sound LCR-750 THX Certified 5.1 Speaker System w/V-1250 THX Powered Subwoofer LCD's viewing angle issues seen here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOYnAmDLXbY

10-21-2009, 08:20 AM	#12
rslamon High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 145	My Panny has the Energy Star logo on the front. So far I have not seen a huge increase in my utilty bills and the TV is on at least 8 hrs a day. __________________ My equipment: -------------------------------------- Panasonic TC-P50X1 Onkyo TX-DS494 (Time to upgrade) Panny DMP-BD35 Blu Ray player Motorolla DCT 2000 Infinity speakers

10-21-2009, 09:51 AM	#13
iserum High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,955	plasma rules....... it consumes same or fraction more power than comparable LCD. __________________ Panasonic 50PX80U/Pioneer BDP-51FD /Toshiba HD A1/Tivo HD SAMSUNG LNT-4661F/ Pioneer BDP-51FD/Dell XPS, Nvidia 9500 GT SONY BRAVIA 40V2500/40 GB PS3, WII, Intel Core 2 Duo with Nvidia 6800 Yamaha RXV1700 Def. Tech. Mythos III, V & Gems, Super Cube III Harmony Remote One Power Conditioner: Belkin PF40

10-21-2009, 12:27 AM	#11
DIRECTVMAN High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 291	Everyone that has a clock radio can afford to run a plasma ! It's not as if you'll see a big spike in the electric bill the first month after getting a plasma TV.

10-21-2009, 12:53 PM	#14
emachine1 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 37	Well plasmas do have price preference they are cheaper compare to lcds.....