LCD vs Plasma who rules?

daleb · 12-29-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

And where can we buy these to prove you right?

AFAIK, they are only used/sold for large billboard type displays in sports stadiums, etc.

SO please point us to these "true" LED panels for consumer TVs please.

I've heard they are pretty good at even as little as 50 yards away!

PFC5 · 12-30-2009, 02:45 AM

@ Daleb

Loves2Watch · 12-30-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Neither. LED TVs are the best. I'm talking true LED TVs not those backlit ones. The one's that consist of only LEDs.

Exactly which true LED TV's are you talking about?

12-30-2009, 12:57 PM

I assume Jasin was refering to OLEDs, which most of know are extreamly limited in size and are very expensive at this point .....ie A 10" screen is @ $2500.00 /US

daleb · 12-30-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pappylap

I assume Jasin was refering to OLEDs, which most of know are extreamly limited in size and are very expensive at this point .....ie A 10" screen is @ $2500.00 /US

Actually, it's an 11" screen (as odd as that seems) but in any case. The price alone should explain why they are called OHHHHHHHH LEDs..

http://www.google.com/products/catal...wAg#ps-sellers

Fadi007 · 01-01-2010, 04:26 PM

i was at my friend house today and he got himself a new lcd sony 32 V series , the only source he got on it is SD channels and it looked a little bit blurry especially on soccer matches , we tried tweaktv.com and the picture got a little bit dim ( more natural for my taste) and the blur is reduced but u still notice it...
is this an LCD problem or the problem is from the SD source ? or it's a calibration problem ?

one more thing i noticed that he's tv got a lot of picture settings ( noise reduction , clear white , live color... and other stuff) which it's cool , does the 2009 plasma models from panasonic have the same amount of picture options ?

01-01-2010, 04:31 PM

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is this an LCD problem

Yes, its called Motion blur.....waiter, could I get some disinfectant over here please.

PFC5 · 01-01-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fadi007

i was at my friend house today and he got himself a new lcd sony 32 V series , the only source he got on it is SD channels and it looked a little bit blurry especially on soccer matches , we tried tweaktv.com and the picture got a little bit dim ( more natural for my taste) and the blur is reduced but u still notice it...
is this an LCD problem or the problem is from the SD source ? or it's a calibration problem ?

one more thing i noticed that he's tv got a lot of picture settings ( noise reduction , clear white , live color... and other stuff) which it's cool , does the 2009 plasma models from panasonic have the same amount of picture options ?

The SD source doesn't help, but motion blur is inherent in LCDs.

You actually want to turn all those "enhancements" OFF in any TV you buy because they cause artifacts in the picture in almost all cases. But the Panasonic plasmas have those also but again you want to turn them OFF anyway.

caflashbob · 01-03-2010, 10:17 AM

I am a newbie owner and could not use anything deeper than the Sony design in my wall versus a plasma. I did help overcome the glare issue, as my install is side lighted, by mounting the TV on a power sanus mount so I can extend the TV out of its wall hole and swivel and tilt down the TV to face me and lessen the glare off of the shiny front. which is a large advantage in my opinion.

maybe I need to look at other high end TVs like the plasma BUT for non critical viewing the Sony has an amazing picture.

will have to look at the screen to see the soap opera video effect I see mentioned here. thought it looked good. so it may make film look like video? is that bad? newby questions.

the internet on the tv is interesting.

fairly good video quality on amazon movie download considering it came over the internet on a n+ wireless link from my router.

01-03-2010, 10:22 AM

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so it may make film look like video? is that bad?

Not if you dont mind "The Godfather" looking like "Days of our lives"

NitroTV · 01-04-2010, 11:01 PM

We'll throw in our "newbee" 2 cents worth. On the 28th of December we purchased our first HDTV, after over 7 months of reading internet reviews, internet forums, going in and out of stores, talking with folks who own this and that, after all said and done, LCD Vs LED Vs Plasma, we went with a Samsung PN58B650 Plasma as our first HDTV, replacing a 12 year old 60"Hitachi Ultra Vision Rear Projection Set. Now HDTVs we were looking at along with the Samsung PN58B650, were the Samsung PN63B590 Plasma, the Panasonic TC-P58V10 and the Panasonic TC-P65V10. All these are great HDTVs and if the economy had been better and if the stores would have been in the mood to deal on the Panasonic TC-P65V10, there might be one sitting in our great room, but $4,000.00+ for a HDTV, the wife said "I DON'T THINK SO?" Now, my brother in law does not have the lack of dollar bills I do, so he owns 4 Pioneer Elite 60 inch and I think he said the one in his home theater was 66 inches, but I must have misunderstood what he was saying, cause I can not find anything on the internet about Pioneer making a 66 inch plasma. One thing we'll tell you, these Plasma Pioneer HDTVs are minding blowing. If you can afford one, get one!!! You will not be disappointed at all! And to those of you blessed enough to own one, a big thumbs up

jeffs386 · 01-06-2010, 07:59 AM

I don't really see much of a debate here since plasma outperforms lcd in pretty much every catagory,the motion problems associated with lcd alone are enough to turn me off to them

GymBrat98 · 01-07-2010, 04:24 PM

Loves2Watch · 01-08-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GymBrat98

Shouldn't that be LSD?

GymBrat98 · 01-08-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Shouldn't that be LSD?

12-30-2009, 02:45 AM	#182
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01-03-2010, 10:17 AM	#189
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01-04-2010, 11:01 PM	#191
NitroTV High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 61	We'll throw in our "newbee" 2 cents worth. On the 28th of December we purchased our first HDTV, after over 7 months of reading internet reviews, internet forums, going in and out of stores, talking with folks who own this and that, after all said and done, LCD Vs LED Vs Plasma, we went with a Samsung PN58B650 Plasma as our first HDTV, replacing a 12 year old 60"Hitachi Ultra Vision Rear Projection Set. Now HDTVs we were looking at along with the Samsung PN58B650, were the Samsung PN63B590 Plasma, the Panasonic TC-P58V10 and the Panasonic TC-P65V10. All these are great HDTVs and if the economy had been better and if the stores would have been in the mood to deal on the Panasonic TC-P65V10, there might be one sitting in our great room, but $4,000.00+ for a HDTV, the wife said "I DON'T THINK SO?" Now, my brother in law does not have the lack of dollar bills I do, so he owns 4 Pioneer Elite 60 inch and I think he said the one in his home theater was 66 inches, but I must have misunderstood what he was saying, cause I can not find anything on the internet about Pioneer making a 66 inch plasma. One thing we'll tell you, these Plasma Pioneer HDTVs are minding blowing. If you can afford one, get one!!! You will not be disappointed at all! And to those of you blessed enough to own one, a big thumbs up __________________ May Your Health And Successes In Life Continue To Serve You Well!

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12-30-2009, 12:57 PM	#184
pappylap Guest Posts: n/a	I assume Jasin was refering to OLEDs, which most of know are extreamly limited in size and are very expensive at this point .....ie A 10" screen is @ $2500.00 /US

01-01-2010, 04:26 PM	#186
Fadi007 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 96	i was at my friend house today and he got himself a new lcd sony 32 V series , the only source he got on it is SD channels and it looked a little bit blurry especially on soccer matches , we tried tweaktv.com and the picture got a little bit dim ( more natural for my taste) and the blur is reduced but u still notice it... is this an LCD problem or the problem is from the SD source ? or it's a calibration problem ? one more thing i noticed that he's tv got a lot of picture settings ( noise reduction , clear white , live color... and other stuff) which it's cool , does the 2009 plasma models from panasonic have the same amount of picture options ?

01-06-2010, 07:59 AM	#192
jeffs386 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 104	I don't really see much of a debate here since plasma outperforms lcd in pretty much every catagory,the motion problems associated with lcd alone are enough to turn me off to them