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Old 12-22-2009, 06:25 PM   #166
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Nope, and I cruise the streets in my gas guzzling sports cars too...


Plasma all the way...
My 42" Panasonic G10 is on the way, should be here in a week. I look forward to calling Dish and getting the HD turned on. Gaii can survive. I drive a 97 Lincoln Town car. It is huge. And a gas to drive.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:37 PM   #168
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PFC5 once you said to do an experiment about lcd , putting a black picture on it and turning the light off to see the black level . well am very bored right now so i did it . i did it on my LG pc monitor , I've put a pure black picture on it and turned the lights off , and you're 100% right the blacks in the dark looked so washed out . well i recorded it with my cell phone but i didn't know how to upload a video here so i uploaded the video to youtube and here's the link

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Here it is imbedded.

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


NOW do you see what I am talking about with LCDs looking super black in stores but how they will look in dark scenes in your home with the lights dimmed or off?

That is why most here who own both prefer plasma.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:28 PM   #170
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Both sides have reasonable arguments for each tech. It's been said a million times but I'm going to repeat it again, choose your tv based on your room setup. I currently own two bottom end LCDs, a toshiba and vizio. This week I had the pleasure of watching a pioneer premeier elite Kuro plasma and I understand why all the fanboys (joking), plasma lovers chose there tvs. This being said it was seeing the plasma in action that made me decide to go with LED.

To explain a little, when watching the pioneer in ideal conditions the PQ was amazing. Football was awsome and the HD movies were intense but when the curtains were opened and the lights came on I became really frustated. The reflection was horrible and to some it might not be that noticeable but I couldn't focus as well. Personally I want to be able to watch my tv with windows open in the room and lots of light so I can work. If i had the option to have a home theater room than it would have a plasma but because I have a feeling that my living room will have plenty of windows I'm going to try led.
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Both sides have reasonable arguments for each tech. It's been said a million times but I'm going to repeat it again, choose your tv based on your room setup. I currently own two bottom end LCDs, a toshiba and vizio. This week I had the pleasure of watching a pioneer premeier elite Kuro plasma and I understand why all the fanboys (joking), plasma lovers chose there tvs. This being said it was seeing the plasma in action that made me decide to go with LED.

To explain a little, when watching the pioneer in ideal conditions the PQ was amazing. Football was awsome and the HD movies were intense but when the curtains were opened and the lights came on I became really frustated. The reflection was horrible and to some it might not be that noticeable but I couldn't focus as well. Personally I want to be able to watch my tv with windows open in the room and lots of light so I can work. If i had the option to have a home theater room than it would have a plasma but because I have a feeling that my living room will have plenty of windows I'm going to try led.
Pretty much all of the LED displays have the reflective glass panels as well.

Most of the high end LCDs has reflective glass because THAT is how you get the best picture overall with the least amount of diffusion that happens a lot with the matte screens and reduces contrast.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:11 PM   #172
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Really? So no matter what I'm going to get reflection? The two LCDs I own don't seem to have that problem but they aren't high end. I thought the lcds were designed for the bright light surroundings?
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Really? So no matter what I'm going to get reflection? The two LCDs I own don't seem to have that problem but they aren't high end. I thought the lcds were designed for the bright light surroundings?
True but to get the best picture, a glossy (reflective) screen is used. Most of the new Panasonic plasma TV's have an anti-glare or matte screen to reduce reflection.
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:54 AM   #174
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Both sides have reasonable arguments for each tech. It's been said a million times but I'm going to repeat it again, choose your tv based on your room setup. I currently own two bottom end LCDs, a toshiba and vizio. This week I had the pleasure of watching a pioneer premeier elite Kuro plasma and I understand why all the fanboys (joking), plasma lovers chose there tvs. This being said it was seeing the plasma in action that made me decide to go with LED.

To explain a little, when watching the pioneer in ideal conditions the PQ was amazing. Football was awsome and the HD movies were intense but when the curtains were opened and the lights came on I became really frustated. The reflection was horrible and to some it might not be that noticeable but I couldn't focus as well. Personally I want to be able to watch my tv with windows open in the room and lots of light so I can work. If i had the option to have a home theater room than it would have a plasma but because I have a feeling that my living room will have plenty of windows I'm going to try led.
This make sense although LED-based LCDs might have more glare than standard LCDs. Choose carefully. I understand the glare issue with plasmas, I have a KURO and while its the best TV Ive ever had it is NOT the best performer during the day with moderate or large amounts of ambient light in the room. I can admit that!

Try LED....but they cost a lot more than standard LCDs. In your cae, a top-tier standard LCD might be a better choice overall.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:00 PM   #176
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my opinion would be go with plasma. I think they look way better, and the darks are simply much darker. The obvious preferred choice would be LED but the darks are whats really important when it comes to making your picture look really rich and clear
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The problem with LED backlit LCDs is that you need the backlit with local dimming models to really improve the blacks instead of the edgelit models. Then you have the new issues that these currently have with even poorer viewing angles usually, AND loss of more shadow detail do to the local dimming. Looking at a stafield from space shows this as the dimmer stars can just disappear and not be shown due to the local dimming excluding them. The same is happening with other obects on a dark scene also.

That is why plasma is still the best consumer display tech right now.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:42 PM   #178
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my opinion would be go with plasma. I think they look way better, and the darks are simply much darker. The obvious preferred choice would be LED but the darks are whats really important when it comes to making your picture look really rich and clear
Actually that's a good point about the dark making a difference in the overall image and viewing experience.
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:52 PM   #179
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Neither. LED TVs are the best. I'm talking true LED TVs not those backlit ones. The one's that consist of only LEDs.
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Neither. LED TVs are the best. I'm talking true LED TVs not those backlit ones. The one's that consist of only LEDs.
And where can we buy these to prove you right?

AFAIK, they are only used/sold for large billboard type displays in sports stadiums, etc.

SO please point us to these "true" LED panels for consumer TVs please.
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