120hz vs. 600 hz

shagdrum · 08-31-2009, 03:27 PM

Hi all. I am a noob here and this is my first post so be gentle.

I a looking at either getting an LCD HDTV or a Plasma. This is the one spec that confuses me. I know the 600hz thing is unique to plasma, but does it compare to the 120hz LCD's? Am I way of base in comparing these?

Also, which is generally better for picture quality?

I am looking at either a Samsung or an LG.

Thanks in advance for any info/clarification.

Loves2Watch · 08-31-2009, 04:19 PM

Plasma TV's generally deliver a much better picture as long as there is not a lot of ambient room light.

Panasonic is the current king of plasma TV's. Samsung's are OK but still have some problems and LG's are out of the question due to poor quality control and problems with image retention and burn in.

PFC5 · 08-31-2009, 05:21 PM

I would choose (and did) Panasonic over Samsung and I agree that LG should not even be considered for the reasons stated by L2W.

Techlord · 08-31-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I would choose (and did) Panasonic over Samsung and I agree that LG should not even be considered for the reasons stated by L2W.

Plasma is great if its not in a brightly lit room, but if your room is bright with windows LCD might be a better choice. Do you plan on hooking up your computer to your display? If so plasma might not be the best choice. When it comes to Plasmas Panasonic is #1 choice, when it comes to an LCD Samsung is hard to beat! Samsung makes excellent LCD TV's, but when it comes to plasma that is a different story. Stay away from anything LG!

shagdrum · 08-31-2009, 08:07 PM

Well, I have narrowed it down to either the Panasonic TC-P42U1 (42" plasma; 1080p 600hz) or the Samsung LN40B640 (40" LCD; 1080p 120hz).

The room this is going in is rather brightly lit, but I can adjust that some, if need be. Currently, it will be hooked up to my xbox 360 and my PC (as a secondary monitor to watch blu-rays and possibly play games on). I have a smaller LCD already for normal computer use. The only blu-ray player I have a present is on my computer and I probably won't be getting a PS3 until the 1st of the year (being a poor college student and all).

Any recommendations between these two? Why plasma considered a better picture? Is the 120hz thing all that important? I have heard that the 600hz thing is basically 60hz. Is that a concern for plasmas? Why or why not?

Techlord · 08-31-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shagdrum

Well, I have narrowed it down to either the Panasonic TC-P42U1 (42" plasma; 1080p 600hz) or the Samsung LN40B640 (40" LCD; 1080p 120hz).

The room this is going in is rather brightly lit, but I can adjust that some, if need be. Currently, it will be hooked up to my xbox 360 and my PC (as a secondary monitor to watch blu-rays and possibly play games on). I have a smaller LCD already for normal computer use. The only blu-ray player I have a present is on my computer and I probably won't be getting a PS3 until the 1st of the year (being a poor college student and all).

Any recommendations between these two? Why plasma considered a better picture? Is the 120hz thing all that important? I have heard that the 600hz thing is basically 60hz. Is that a concern for plasmas? Why or why not?

Plasmas do not have image blurr issues like LCD does, fast action motion is not a problem for plasma. If you really want an LCD I would look at the B750 series (240Hz), there quite a bit better on fast moving images and come in 42" inches. I own and love my Samsung LN52B750 LCD, my room gets bright in the Fall and Winter!

shagdrum · 08-31-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

Plasmas do not have image blurr issues like LCD does, fast action motion is not a problem for plasma. If you really want an LCD I would look at the B750 series (240Hz), there quite a bit better on fast moving images and come in 42" inches. I own and love my Samsung LN52B750 LCD, my room gets bright in the Fall and Winter!

The Samsung I mentioned is just within my budget at the price at Best Buy currently ($999). I cannot go above $1000 before taxes. The plasma is priced at $849 at Best Buy currently.

shagdrum · 08-31-2009, 09:06 PM

Why are plasma TV's ill suited for being hooked up to a computer?

Techlord · 08-31-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shagdrum

Why are plasma TV's ill suited for being hooked up to a computer?

They are more prone to burn-in when still images remain for periods of time, images actually burned into the screen. This can not happen to an LCD.

shagdrum · 08-31-2009, 09:36 PM

so, considering how I plan on using this TV, would the LCD be the better choice?

IGExpandingPan · 08-31-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shagdrum

Why are plasma TV's ill suited for being hooked up to a computer?

Static images, like the start bar, on the screen all the time. Also anti-burn-in counter measures tend to make things wobble when looking at it close range.

For example, I'm running VERY old CRTs for my monitors. One of the ones I first got had the Apple logo burned into it. I'm sure I've got a start bar burned into mine.

Techlord · 08-31-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IGExpandingPan

Static images, like the start bar, on the screen all the time. Also anti-burn-in counter measures tend to make things wobble when looking at it close range.

For example, I'm running VERY old CRTs for my monitors. One of the ones I first got had the Apple logo burned into it. I'm sure I've got a start bar burned into mine.

This is the reason why LCD's became so popular for viewing your computers, easy on the eyes also. I remember CRT's making my eyes hurt, I think I have the start button burned into my retinas.

shagdrum · 09-01-2009, 07:55 AM

Good info. I am probably gonna go with the Samsung LCD. Thanks for the advice!

Techlord · 09-01-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shagdrum

Good info. I am probably gonna go with the Samsung LCD. Thanks for the advice!

My Sammy looked amazing with my computer hooked up to it! When I bought my Samsung LN52B750 on Amazon is was $2047 delivered, free shipping and I saved almost $200 dollars with no sales tax. Have you thought about buying at a reputable online store?

shagdrum · 09-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Already snagged it from Best Buy. Actually got the was the LN40B630 for $50 dollars less. The only difference being a lack of PIP (something I have never needed before). I have gotten burned before on big ticket purchases online. While Amazon is probably reliable (I use it for smaller ticket items) I am cautious about using any internet vendor for bigger ticket purchases.

I am very happy with the TV! Thanks again for all the advice! Now to figure out how exactly to calibrate it...

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08-31-2009, 03:27 PM	#1
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	120hz vs. 600 hz Hi all. I am a noob here and this is my first post so be gentle. I a looking at either getting an LCD HDTV or a Plasma. This is the one spec that confuses me. I know the 600hz thing is unique to plasma, but does it compare to the 120hz LCD's? Am I way of base in comparing these? Also, which is generally better for picture quality? I am looking at either a Samsung or an LG. Thanks in advance for any info/clarification.

08-31-2009, 08:07 PM	#5
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	Well, I have narrowed it down to either the Panasonic TC-P42U1 (42" plasma; 1080p 600hz) or the Samsung LN40B640 (40" LCD; 1080p 120hz). The room this is going in is rather brightly lit, but I can adjust that some, if need be. Currently, it will be hooked up to my xbox 360 and my PC (as a secondary monitor to watch blu-rays and possibly play games on). I have a smaller LCD already for normal computer use. The only blu-ray player I have a present is on my computer and I probably won't be getting a PS3 until the 1st of the year (being a poor college student and all). Any recommendations between these two? Why plasma considered a better picture? Is the 120hz thing all that important? I have heard that the 600hz thing is basically 60hz. Is that a concern for plasmas? Why or why not?

08-31-2009, 09:06 PM	#8
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	Why are plasma TV's ill suited for being hooked up to a computer?

08-31-2009, 09:36 PM	#10
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	so, considering how I plan on using this TV, would the LCD be the better choice?

09-01-2009, 07:55 AM	#13
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	Good info. I am probably gonna go with the Samsung LCD. Thanks for the advice!

09-02-2009, 12:17 PM	#15
shagdrum My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	Already snagged it from Best Buy. Actually got the was the LN40B630 for $50 dollars less. The only difference being a lack of PIP (something I have never needed before). I have gotten burned before on big ticket purchases online. While Amazon is probably reliable (I use it for smaller ticket items) I am cautious about using any internet vendor for bigger ticket purchases. I am very happy with the TV! Thanks again for all the advice! Now to figure out how exactly to calibrate it...