New HD Channel Lineup

[tigerhonaker]

Originally Posted by space86

I hoped we would had Sci Fi HD for BSG Tonight.

Yeah, I guess we still Do-Not have HD Sci-Fi then

Terry

[tigerhonaker]

Anyone KNOW when we are going to ACTUALLY get HD Sci-Fi

I really thought it was suppose to be like back MONTHS ago.

Terry

[SakiSaki]

Originally Posted by tigerhonaker

Anyone KNOW when we are going to ACTUALLY get HD Sci-Fi

I really thought it was suppose to be like back MONTHS ago.

Terry

Once they get negotiate to the point in which they can offer the channels to us as customers without charging us extra...

[colepalmer]

I spoke with a customer retention rep today and she indicated that the following HD channels will be added sometime in April or May: Sci-Fi, CNN, AMC, ABC Family, Biography, and local Hi-Def channels in Abeline, TX. She also mentioned a couple of other channels that I was unable to catch because she was talking so fast. She did not specify the addition of USA HD, a major disappointment.

[atnegnys]

Originally Posted by SakiSaki

Once they get negotiate to the point in which they can offer the channels to us as customers without charging us extra...

Extra charge?? Aren't we already paying more money for less national HD channels compared to the other sat provider. I'm ready to see some action.

[SakiSaki]

Originally Posted by atnegnys

Extra charge?? Aren't we already paying more money for less national HD channels compared to the other sat provider. I'm ready to see some action.

I'm just passing along information that one of my former associates who is involved in the negotiations with Dish Network, imparted to my secretary and I. Dish is atrocious when it comes to negotiating under pressure, maybe it's because they have been burned in the past, but they are trying to get more HD channels to appease their customers, attain new customers and at the same not share the pie with the major networks who hold the rights to the channels that we are missing.

The major networks want renewed agreements over what they received a few years back in exchange for the rights to the new HD channels, yet Dish just wants the Networks to incorporate the channels as a follow-up to the SD channels.

All in all, I hear that they are getting closer and closer, but it's all hearsay, until these channels appear on my guide.

[tigerhonaker]

Originally Posted by SakiSaki

I'm just passing along information that one of my former associates who is involved in the negotiations with Dish Network, imparted to my secretary and I. Dish is atrocious when it comes to negotiating under pressure, maybe it's because they have been burned in the past, but they are trying to get more HD channels to appease their customers, attain new customers and at the same not share the pie with the major networks who hold the rights to the channels that we are missing.

The major networks want renewed agreements over what they received a few years back in exchange for the rights to the new HD channels, yet Dish just wants the Networks to incorporate the channels as a follow-up to the SD channels.

All in all, I hear that they are getting closer and closer, but it's all hearsay, until these channels appear on my guide.

Very Interesting. So really what this comes down to is Dish wants it their way and the Networks want it their way. This will I'm sure turn out to be very interesting as a Dish Customer.

Terry

[Iain1974]

So how come DirectTV are able to move so much quicker? The must have a very similar cost base as Dish yet they provide more and therefore are more attractive to new subscribers. Seems like common sense to me.
I've given up on seeing my locals, Shreveport, LA, in HD this year.

[Joe Las Vegas]

Originally Posted by Iain1974

So how come DirectTV are able to move so much quicker? The must have a very similar cost base as Dish yet they provide more and therefore are more attractive to new subscribers. Seems like common sense to me.
I've given up on seeing my locals, Shreveport, LA, in HD this year.

Perhaps if the last satellite they launched hadn't failed ,they might have caught up by now, who knows.
Remember this IS the transition year to HD IMO, by 2009 or mid-09, everything will be all set, I hope

When it comes to HD Locals, I'd like to see them in Vegas, DTV has them here but not Dish, Dish added a whole bunch of HD locals but all on the East coast, hopefully soon they will take care of the West coast, Don't talk to me about an over the air antenna for HD, because I tried and no matter where I put it or oriented it, the signal would be break up, plus I still had the keep locals from Dish just to have the programming to use the DVR, so I gave up on the OTA antenna.

[Digital Blue]

Originally Posted by Iain1974

So how come DirectTV are able to move so much quicker? The must have a very similar cost base as Dish yet they provide more and therefore are more attractive to new subscribers.

Yes and no. I assume they are able to act faster because they have much more revenue per customer. For example ..

A 4-room DISH system with a 625 DVR and a 322 with AT200 is $55 p/m. A 4-room DTV system with 1 DVR and "Choice" programming has a standard monthly rate of $59 p/m plus additional outlet fees of $15 p/m for a total of $74 p/m. DTV is currently offering an $18 p/m discount for one-year for new customers which would make the package cost $56. p/m for one year - but you would only have DVR service on one TV.

[jpfrasier]

Originally Posted by Digital Blue

Yes and no. I assume they are able to act faster because they have much more revenue per customer. For example ..

A 4-room DISH system with a 625 DVR and a 322 with AT200 is $55 p/m. A 4-room DTV system with 1 DVR and "Choice" programming has a standard monthly rate of $59 p/m plus additional outlet fees of $15 p/m for a total of $74 p/m. DTV is currently offering an $18 p/m discount for one-year for new customers which would make the package cost $56. p/m for one year - but you would only have DVR service on one TV.

I read an article about a year and a half ago that indicated Dish would focus on promoting their DVR technology and Direct would focus on HD. The last couple of years has been evidence of this occurring. Dish has the better DVR(according to many independent reviews) and Direct TV has more HD channels. Thankfully, Dish is trying to add channels but lad behind DTV in doing so.

[Yes616]

Originally Posted by Iain1974

So how come DirectTV are able to move so much quicker? The must have a very similar cost base as Dish yet they provide more and therefore are more attractive to new subscribers. Seems like common sense to me.
I've given up on seeing my locals, Shreveport, LA, in HD this year.

DirecTV does not bargain as hard as Dish. Thats why D* subs pay more than E* subs.

Stuff will happen soon. Just a bit later than we would like.

The inside word is that this Wednesday will be a good day for us. I don't know more than that right now.

[Digital Blue]

Have not heard that, but not unusual. DISH is always pretty tight-lipped. As a long-time retailer of DISH (and recently DTV) I have contacts in pretty good places including some great email addresses, but DISH maintains excellent security which is why we now carry DTV (DTV promotes and promotes even if they are wrong). DTV makes the phone ring - but most choose DISH when given all the info (unless they want a specific sports package).

I hope you are right about this Wednesday - that would be cool. Like I've said b4 - DISH and DTV will have almost all the same HD channels and the torch will most likely pass back and forth a few more times b4 the dust settles.

I rarely ever suggest someone switch providers except as a last resort because I know how it impacts local retailers. And it sux! So if I seem pro-DISH at times and pro-DTV at times you'll understand why.

Good things come to those that wait.

[spokybob]

I was with Directv for many years, partly because of sports. At the time, 1998, I think, Dish did not have SPEED. That was a deciding factor for me. Later I had been very upset about D* dragging their feet on locals for 61231. Then finally D* must have set up rabbit ears to use to uplink my FOX channel. It took nearly 6 months to get a decent signal. The CSR stoned me everytime. Email replies were form letters & even contained inaccurate info.
I remembered all of that when I bought my HDTV. I went with DISH even though D* promised me the moon. LOL. I talked with a D* CSR who was a real American a few weeks ago. When she told me I could not plug my OTA into the DVR, I thanked her and said we could not do business. I use ZAP2IT.COM for my progam guide on the locals. It's not that big of a deal to set up manual timers.

[tigerhonaker]

Sci Fi HD Channel is up and On:

I take it this is "OLD-News" here now


Terry