New HD Channel Lineup

GRN · 09-11-2005, 10:46 AM

It'll probably get added on eventually. Probably something like the NFL Netwrok, where it'll just show up and no one will know until someone on this forum posts it.

jldhawk · 09-11-2005, 02:23 PM

That's why I use this forum and trust this forum more then calling the CSR's.
Thanks Admins!

milosusa · 11-04-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbskully

This information is correct...as long as you have a 61.5 dish and HD pak subscriber all you have to do today is call and have them turned on.

Maybe stupid Q. but how I will find, if I do have 61.5 dish ? I now have HD pak and I will add voom channels, if I don't need another dish. Two dish is a enough.
ME

jergenf · 11-04-2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colm

I'm new to this hd arena so bear with me if I ask a few "silly" questions...

just went to check re voom channels and altho' the 61.5 is listed, with the dish 500 selected, it shows as n/a. Does this mean I'd need a 3rd dish to pick up the voom package?

Are you getting chan 9443 HD demo channel? If so then you have 61.5. Another way to verify is to tune into a channel that's listed as 61.5 (ex 580, 9405, 9418, 9443) then immediately go into the menu for sat tuning. It should display the sat and transponder. Some channels that are listed for 61.5 are also on 148 (ex 580).

Update: Colm you're on the west coast correct, are you sure your dish is at 61.5 or is it 148? You may have a better shot for 129.

jldhawk · 11-13-2005, 11:03 AM

Can I make a suggestion to have everyone post their questions HERE since it is a STICK topic that ALWAYS stays on top when we get NEWS of the new mpeg4 recievers.
Once DN post their policy Monday Nov 14th.
I am in a smaller marker, but I noticed that DN has my local channels listed on the 129 Satelite. I get 105,110 and 119 satelites now.
Does that mean I'll get my locals in DTV/HDTV on the 129 Satelite?
and is that were the mpeg4 HD channels will be?

SkyDiver · 11-21-2005, 08:52 AM

I completly confused???
Why are the HD Channels listet here completly different than the HD-Pack of dishnetwors which includes DiscoveryChannel,ESPN and TNT???

jergenf · 11-21-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDiver

I completly confused???
Why are the HD Channels listet here completly different than the HD-Pack of dishnetwors which includes DiscoveryChannel,ESPN and TNT???

The HD Pak listed on dishnetwork is correct, not sure who confused you. TNT-HD, Disc-HD, HDNet, HDNet Mov, ESPN plus four PPV and HD event channels. HBO-HD and SHO-HD if you subscribe to those packages. Voom channels are on the 61.5 and 129 satellites.

booboo · 12-14-2005, 12:21 AM

still dont understand this, but since dish network HAS acquired
the voom satellites, why cant they activate all the HD channels
that Voom had? when i had voom, on top of their exclusive
channels (21 or more, now shortened) , there was STARZ HD east/west, Encore HD east/west, max HD east/west,
movie channel HD east/west, bravo HD, hbo hd east/west
showtime hd east/west etc.... as i recall i had about
40 - 50 hd channels which was totally awesome!

so whats the deal then dish network???? why are you so slow
in adding more HD programming? is costs really an issue here?

Mikekoz13 · 12-14-2005, 05:38 AM

Band width is the issue my friend........

Mike

jergenf · 12-14-2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo

still dont understand this, but since dish network HAS acquired
the voom satellites, why cant they activate all the HD channels
that Voom had? when i had voom, on top of their exclusive
channels (21 or more, now shortened) , there was STARZ HD east/west, Encore HD east/west, max HD east/west,
movie channel HD east/west, bravo HD, hbo hd east/west
showtime hd east/west etc.... as i recall i had about
40 - 50 hd channels which was totally awesome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikekoz13

Band width is the issue my friend........
Mike

That's a good question because Rainbow1 indeed had 40+ HD channels. Mike believes it's bandwidth but is it bandwidth of 61.5 or the mirror satellite 129? Maybe they're trying to make both equal as far as HD content. Maybe they planning to add HD locals on 61.5 for the northeast US. It's already known that HD local is planned for 129.

Poor_Man_HDTV · 12-27-2005, 04:42 PM

They are only offering fewer channels because:

1. Bandwidth

2. Consolidation of programming from the channels not included, with the ones that are.

I love my DN. but they are dropping the ball on the HD arena.... Direct TV is soon going to upgrade to the mpeg4 std. while dish has no "public" plan available. To me this would be very discouraging to make the investment in to the DN system if I were a new customer that has done thier research.

One main gripe I have about DN is their mpeg encoding levels. It is not equal for all channels. I.E. My locals are grainy with a reseting "twitch" every 8-10 seconds (possibly from a very high compression ratio). Then you have the "180, 120, 60 package channels" they have a slightly better image with less artifacts (you would think that they were a "mid level compression". then the premium channels (HBO, SHOW, etc...) they almost look DVD quality, and some of them carry Dolby Digital. then we have their PAY PER VIEW. these must have the least compression rate. Stunning pictures..... It must go to show that they are giving you what you pay for. if that is the case, they should lower the compression ratio for the locals, since they are $5/ mo.

Yet to view their HD. Hesitant on getting the 811 to go along with my 625. No telling if they are going to "no charge swap" the mpeg3 decoders with the mpeg4 ones that will come out probably next century.

JCM · 12-28-2005, 10:27 AM

"...then we have their PAY PER VIEW. these must have the least compression rate. Stunning pictures..... It must go to show that they are giving you what you pay for." (Didn't do the quote right. This is from Poor_man_HDTV's post.)

I didn't know DN's PPV channels had a better picture than their regular channels. Have other people using the 811 noticed that difference?

I don't have the premium channels, so I only had DN's regular channels to compare with. I have been avoiding PPV, because I figured why pay extra for crappy quality to watch a movie I can get on DVD. Now I'll have to give it a try . . . assuming they ever put anything on I want to watch.

Here's a surmise. Maybe Dish is run entirely by techies who are doing the best they can with their engineer school education and 8 hours a day on the job. You have to admit, DN's marketing leaves a lot to be desired. If they were better, they would be touting the higher quality of their PPV channels. Marketing professionals catch a lot of grief, but they at least tend to be in touch with what the customer wants.

Or maybe I'm being too kind ...

fredinva · 01-10-2006, 10:04 AM

"but they are dropping the ball on the HD arena...."

Still think they are dropping the ball???????

More HD now than A N Y B O D Y.........

fred

BLUZMAN · 01-12-2006, 03:37 AM

Hey Fred, explain what you mean, is it something I missed in the Charlie Chat Monday night????

lanass · 01-27-2006, 10:44 PM

Hi, I'm new to all this and have just recently signed up with Dish Network and got the Vip211 HD receivers with the Dish500. I've been reading alot about Dish Network to finally soon be offering local channels in HD through there satellites (along with ESPN2, etc.), and on MPEG4, in select markets. My question is, does anyone know if the Dish 500 would be able to receive these new local HD programming through the dish? Also, anyone know when this rollout will happen in the Dallas market? Thanks.

09-11-2005, 02:23 PM	#47
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11-13-2005, 11:03 AM	#50
jldhawk Give me the NHL in HD Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sioux City, Ia Age: 45 Posts: 277	Can I make a suggestion to have everyone post their questions HERE since it is a STICK topic that ALWAYS stays on top when we get NEWS of the new mpeg4 recievers. Once DN post their policy Monday Nov 14th. I am in a smaller marker, but I noticed that DN has my local channels listed on the 129 Satelite. I get 105,110 and 119 satelites now. Does that mean I'll get my locals in DTV/HDTV on the 129 Satelite? and is that were the mpeg4 HD channels will be? __________________ 52" JVC HD-ILA LCoS TV Dish Network 180HD Gold HD Package with Dish 411 Reciever Dish1000 antenna Pioneer 5.1 DTS Surround System Toshiba DVD/VHS with HDMI Upconversion for DVD's Off-Air Terk HDTV-s Rooftop antenna (2 HD Channel NBC off-air, 3 DTV from the off-air antenna) Dodge Ram (Ya, it's got a HEMI) Infinity Sound System

12-14-2005, 12:21 AM	#53
booboo sharp aquos 52" lcd 92u Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11	hd channels still dont understand this, but since dish network HAS acquired the voom satellites, why cant they activate all the HD channels that Voom had? when i had voom, on top of their exclusive channels (21 or more, now shortened) , there was STARZ HD east/west, Encore HD east/west, max HD east/west, movie channel HD east/west, bravo HD, hbo hd east/west showtime hd east/west etc.... as i recall i had about 40 - 50 hd channels which was totally awesome! so whats the deal then dish network???? why are you so slow in adding more HD programming? is costs really an issue here?

12-27-2005, 04:42 PM	#56
Poor_Man_HDTV Rebuilding Again! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Picayune, Ms. Age: 42 Posts: 28	They are only offering fewer channels because: 1. Bandwidth 2. Consolidation of programming from the channels not included, with the ones that are. I love my DN. but they are dropping the ball on the HD arena.... Direct TV is soon going to upgrade to the mpeg4 std. while dish has no "public" plan available. To me this would be very discouraging to make the investment in to the DN system if I were a new customer that has done thier research. One main gripe I have about DN is their mpeg encoding levels. It is not equal for all channels. I.E. My locals are grainy with a reseting "twitch" every 8-10 seconds (possibly from a very high compression ratio). Then you have the "180, 120, 60 package channels" they have a slightly better image with less artifacts (you would think that they were a "mid level compression". then the premium channels (HBO, SHOW, etc...) they almost look DVD quality, and some of them carry Dolby Digital. then we have their PAY PER VIEW. these must have the least compression rate. Stunning pictures..... It must go to show that they are giving you what you pay for. if that is the case, they should lower the compression ratio for the locals, since they are $5/ mo. Yet to view their HD. Hesitant on getting the 811 to go along with my 625. No telling if they are going to "no charge swap" the mpeg3 decoders with the mpeg4 ones that will come out probably next century. __________________ Toshiba 52HM95 Sony DVP-CX995V Harmon Kardon AVR635 Def. Tech. Pro 100's in a 7.1 setup Def. Tech. Supercube III Dish Network 625-DVR Dish Network 811 Logitech Harmony 880 Monster Power 3600 MKII Monster Power UPS500 Channel Master CM3671 OTA Antenna Last edited by Poor_Man_HDTV; 12-27-2005 at 04:51 PM.

12-28-2005, 10:27 AM	#57
JCM High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 42	"...then we have their PAY PER VIEW. these must have the least compression rate. Stunning pictures..... It must go to show that they are giving you what you pay for." (Didn't do the quote right. This is from Poor_man_HDTV's post.) I didn't know DN's PPV channels had a better picture than their regular channels. Have other people using the 811 noticed that difference? I don't have the premium channels, so I only had DN's regular channels to compare with. I have been avoiding PPV, because I figured why pay extra for crappy quality to watch a movie I can get on DVD. Now I'll have to give it a try . . . assuming they ever put anything on I want to watch. Here's a surmise. Maybe Dish is run entirely by techies who are doing the best they can with their engineer school education and 8 hours a day on the job. You have to admit, DN's marketing leaves a lot to be desired. If they were better, they would be touting the higher quality of their PPV channels. Marketing professionals catch a lot of grief, but they at least tend to be in touch with what the customer wants. Or maybe I'm being too kind ... Last edited by JCM; 12-28-2005 at 10:31 AM.

09-11-2005, 10:46 AM	#46
GRN Think outside the Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Parts Unknown, NY Posts: 635	It'll probably get added on eventually. Probably something like the NFL Netwrok, where it'll just show up and no one will know until someone on this forum posts it.

11-21-2005, 08:52 AM	#51
SkyDiver High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 95	I completly confused??? Why are the HD Channels listet here completly different than the HD-Pack of dishnetwors which includes DiscoveryChannel,ESPN and TNT???

12-14-2005, 05:38 AM	#54
Mikekoz13 HD DVD... to go please!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pa. Age: 49 Posts: 192	Band width is the issue my friend........ Mike

01-10-2006, 10:04 AM	#58
fredinva 50"Wega HD ROCKS! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 740	"but they are dropping the ball on the HD arena...." Still think they are dropping the ball??????? More HD now than A N Y B O D Y......... fred __________________ I'm getting really, really tired of Dish re-scheduled install threads!! Call a local Retailer. And, we'll check your receiver in the store for free. If you can reach your LNBF, we'll check it for free too!!!!

01-12-2006, 03:37 AM	#59
BLUZMAN A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TEXAS Age: 53 Posts: 12	Hey Fred, explain what you mean, is it something I missed in the Charlie Chat Monday night????

01-27-2006, 10:44 PM	#60
lanass My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	Hi, I'm new to all this and have just recently signed up with Dish Network and got the Vip211 HD receivers with the Dish500. I've been reading alot about Dish Network to finally soon be offering local channels in HD through there satellites (along with ESPN2, etc.), and on MPEG4, in select markets. My question is, does anyone know if the Dish 500 would be able to receive these new local HD programming through the dish? Also, anyone know when this rollout will happen in the Dallas market? Thanks.

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