how can dish claim 49 national hd channels

ans2004 · 10-08-2007, 02:51 PM

tv predictions.com has an article that dish network announcedtoday that they now have 49 national hd channels. the funny part is that 8 of those are pay per view channels. what a joke. if thats how they count, then directv has alot more national hd channels. directv only counts actual national channels, not pay per view or sport event channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skywatchbob · 10-08-2007, 05:16 PM

Way to go Dish, stretch the truth. Some complain about stretched picture but we are getting stretched truth. Does this mean we won't get more channels in the future. I am reading the forums and hearing about all the new channels on Directv. I am jealous. It seems E* is being strategic in expanding its HD offering. Are they limited with their satellites, while Direct's bird has lots of room? Even if they gave up five of those pay per view channels they could make a credible effort to keep up until they launch another satellite. When they do stuff like this I start thinking that I can't wait until the contract is up. At least I do have some good HD channels to watch, and the promotion I received gives me a good discount.

tcarcio · 10-08-2007, 05:19 PM

You guy's need to get out more..............

garys · 10-08-2007, 05:52 PM

The person who wrote the article did not do his homework. There are so many incorrect statements in the article. He did not get the info from anyone from Dish Network.

fredinva · 10-08-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ans2004

tv predictions.com has an article that dish network announcedtoday that they now have 49 national hd channels. the funny part is that 8 of those are pay per view channels. what a joke. if thats how they count, then directv has alot more national hd channels. directv only counts actual national channels, not pay per view or sport event channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Direct's 100 channels WILL be alot of regional sports!!!!

fred

DodgerKing · 10-08-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fredinva

Direct's 100 channels WILL be alot of regional sports!!!!

fred

That is the game that all of these companies play. Even though RSN's are local, they still count as national HD coverage because they are available to anyone in the nation through certain packages.

Given that though. By the end of October, Direct will have more standard HD channels. As I said before, even though I am a Directv costumer, I don't care who has more or less, the difference is negligible at this point and will continue to be for a while anyway. They will both be going back and forth for a while to come. Everyone chooses providers and packages that suit their needs. I am glad that their are several options available for most of us. I want both companies to keep striving to be the best. Doing so keeps both in a competitive edge which is only good for both Direct and Dish costumers. The only reason why I chose Direct over Dish is because of sports.

18 is # 1 · 10-08-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerKing

I want both companies to keep striving to be the best. Doing so keeps both in a competitive edge which is only good for both Direct and Dish costumers.

Well said!

crazyal · 10-08-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DodgerKing

That is the game that all of these companies play. Even though RSN's are local, they still count as national HD coverage because they are available to anyone in the nation through certain packages.

Given that though. By the end of October, Direct will have more standard HD channels. As I said before, even though I am a Directv costumer, I don't care who has more or less, the difference is negligible at this point and will continue to be for a while anyway. They will both be going back and forth for a while to come. Everyone chooses providers and packages that suit their needs. I am glad that their are several options available for most of us. I want both companies to keep striving to be the best. Doing so keeps both in a competitive edge which is only good for both Direct and Dish costumers. The only reason why I chose Direct over Dish is because of sports.

Eventually both will have the same (minus some of the sports) national channels. Not sure what's happening with MLB yet but Dish seams tight with the checkbook. Other that sports what will be the definer will be the locals, who has your area. If nothing else DTV just put the ball back in Dish's court, time to hit it back over to the otherside guy's. In the end we all win.

Yes616 · 10-09-2007, 07:21 AM

I count 35 HD national cable channels plus the Big 10 Alts + Center Ice + PPV's + Premiums + HD locals. I didn't count those NBAHD and HDEV1 channels that never seem to be on.

Citico · 10-09-2007, 08:04 AM

Dish National HD channel count (for those who are keeping score

1) Food Network HD (24-7 Unique Schedule to Sd counterpart)
2) HGTV (24/7 - Ditto to above)
3) A&E (Some HD - the rest STRETCH-O-VISION)
4) History Channel HD (Ditto - Stretch-O-Vision)
5) TNT (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision)
6) TBS (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision)
7) ESPN (Lots of HD events, 4x3 SD with borders that prevent burn-in)
8) ESPN 2 (Same as ESPN)
9) NFL Network (many HD events, 4x3 SD with black bars)
10) Discovery Channel (Some HD with "zoomed" SD programs thin black lines on the sides)
11) TLC (Same as Discovery)
12) Animal Planet (Same as Discovery only not as many HD programs)
13) National Geographic Channel (Lots of HD with 4x3 SD black bars)
14) Science Channel (Same as Discovery)
15) Versus/Golf Channel (Some HD events, otherwise mostly 4x3 with black bars)
16) Big 10 Network + 4 Alternates (HD Events 4x3 with black bars)

24/7 HD Content Channels

17) HD Theater
18) HD Net
19) HD Net Movies
20) Universal HD
21) MHD (combo of MTV/VH1 and CMT)

Voom Channels "no one" wants. All Commercial Free and all 24/7 HD (I am not "no one")
22) Rave (music/concerts)
23) Equator (Like the Travel channel and the old OLN)
24) Gallery (Museum/Fine Arts)
25) Treasure (Collectibles/Travel)
26) Animania (some of the worst cartoons you ever saw!)
27) World Cinema (Movies from around the world)
28) Rush (Extreme Sports)
29) World Sport (Sports from around the world and replayed 78,092,832 times)
30) Ultra (Everything you never wanted to know about fashion)
31) Kung Fu (Martial arts movies some great some very camp)
32) Film Fest (More movies from all over)
33) Monster (Horror/monster/sci-fi movies)
34) HD News Channel
35) Game Play (What G4 was before Tech TV/ZDTV)
36) Family (Some good movies for the kids + endless reruns of Flipper and Thunderbirds)

Premium Channels (east versions only) Movies shown original aspect ratio (OAR) including additional letterboxing or pillarboxing when necessary
37) HBO
38) Cinemax
39) Starz
40) Showtime

Regional Sports Networks (Part Time Channels) - Counting these only because DirecTV counts theirs
41) Comcast Sports Net
42) Altitude
43) Fox Sports Net Prime Ticket
44) Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
45) Fox Sports Arizona
46) Fox Sports Southwest
47) Fox Sports West
48) Fox Sports Midwest
49) Fox Sports South
50) Sun Sports
51) Fox Sports Florida
52) Comcast Sports Mid Atlantic
53) Fox Sports Ohio (Cleveland/Columbus)
54) Fox Sports Ohio (Cincinnati)
55) Fox Sports Northwest
56) Fox Sports Pittsburgh
57) Comcast Sports Net Chicago
58) Fox Sports Detroit
59) Sports Time Ohio
60) Fox Sports North
61) SportSouth
62) Sports Net New York

Counting these only because DirecTV counts their one channel
63-70) Pay Per View HD (8 channels)

71-86) NHL Center Ice HD channels (Event only part time channels)

+ the 4 Big Ten Network Alternates not counted yet.

90 unique HD channels on Dish Network right now.

This list was posted on another site and I have copied it here.

DodgerKing · 10-09-2007, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citico

Dish National HD channel count (for those who are keeping score

1) Food Network HD (24-7 Unique Schedule to Sd counterpart)
2) HGTV (24/7 - Ditto to above)
3) A&E (Some HD - the rest STRETCH-O-VISION)
4) History Channel HD (Ditto - Stretch-O-Vision)
5) TNT (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision)
6) TBS (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision)
7) ESPN (Lots of HD events, 4x3 SD with borders that prevent burn-in)
8) ESPN 2 (Same as ESPN)
9) NFL Network (many HD events, 4x3 SD with black bars)
10) Discovery Channel (Some HD with "zoomed" SD programs thin black lines on the sides)
11) TLC (Same as Discovery)
12) Animal Planet (Same as Discovery only not as many HD programs)
13) National Geographic Channel (Lots of HD with 4x3 SD black bars)
14) Science Channel (Same as Discovery)
15) Versus/Golf Channel (Some HD events, otherwise mostly 4x3 with black bars)
16) Big 10 Network + 4 Alternates (HD Events 4x3 with black bars)

24/7 HD Content Channels

17) HD Theater
18) HD Net
19) HD Net Movies
20) Universal HD
21) MHD (combo of MTV/VH1 and CMT)

Voom Channels "no one" wants. All Commercial Free and all 24/7 HD (I am not "no one")
22) Rave (music/concerts)
23) Equator (Like the Travel channel and the old OLN)
24) Gallery (Museum/Fine Arts)
25) Treasure (Collectibles/Travel)
26) Animania (some of the worst cartoons you ever saw!)
27) World Cinema (Movies from around the world)
28) Rush (Extreme Sports)
29) World Sport (Sports from around the world and replayed 78,092,832 times)
30) Ultra (Everything you never wanted to know about fashion)
31) Kung Fu (Martial arts movies some great some very camp)
32) Film Fest (More movies from all over)
33) Monster (Horror/monster/sci-fi movies)
34) HD News Channel
35) Game Play (What G4 was before Tech TV/ZDTV)
36) Family (Some good movies for the kids + endless reruns of Flipper and Thunderbirds)

Premium Channels (east versions only) Movies shown original aspect ratio (OAR) including additional letterboxing or pillarboxing when necessary
37) HBO
38) Cinemax
39) Starz
40) Showtime

Regional Sports Networks (Part Time Channels) - Counting these only because DirecTV counts theirs
41) Comcast Sports Net
42) Altitude
43) Fox Sports Net Prime Ticket
44) Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
45) Fox Sports Arizona
46) Fox Sports Southwest
47) Fox Sports West
48) Fox Sports Midwest
49) Fox Sports South
50) Sun Sports
51) Fox Sports Florida
52) Comcast Sports Mid Atlantic
53) Fox Sports Ohio (Cleveland/Columbus)
54) Fox Sports Ohio (Cincinnati)
55) Fox Sports Northwest
56) Fox Sports Pittsburgh
57) Comcast Sports Net Chicago
58) Fox Sports Detroit
59) Sports Time Ohio
60) Fox Sports North
61) SportSouth
62) Sports Net New York

Counting these only because DirecTV counts their one channel
63-70) Pay Per View HD (8 channels)

71-86) NHL Center Ice HD channels (Event only part time channels)

+ the 4 Big Ten Network Alternates not counted yet.

90 unique HD channels on Dish Network right now.

This list was posted on another site and I have copied it here.

The only thing I see unique are the Voom channels. How can they claim 90 unique? This list must have been created a while back? With the exception of a couple, those Voom channels seem pretty lame anyway.

RSN's can be counted as national because everyone has the option to watch each HD RSN 24/7 with certain packages.

I wish the Turner channels would not do that stupid stretch-o-vision. If someone wants to stretch a program, they can do so on their own TV. When the network stretches the program, we have no way of putting it back in its proper format. What is even more annoying is the fact that they even stretch letter box programming.

richiephx1 · 10-09-2007, 09:08 AM

I happen to watch a lot of the VOOM channels. They are 24/7 HD channels. VOOM has a wide variety of HD movies, sports, and specials that aren't seen anywhere else. They are now adding more and more new programming all the time. There are repeats, yes, but, you find the same programming repeated on most of the non-VOOM and the new HD channels. I would suggest to those who are most critical of VOOM, that they watch the channels first before they make judgements that are not factual.

Citico · 10-09-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richiephx1

I happen to watch a lot of the VOOM channels. They are 24/7 HD channels. VOOM has a wide variety of HD movies, sports, and specials that aren't seen anywhere else. They are now adding more and more new programming all the time. There are repeats, yes, but, you find the same programming repeated on most of the non-VOOM and the new HD channels. I would suggest to those who are most critical of VOOM, that they watch the channels first before they make judgements that are not factual.

Couldn't agree more on the VOOM channels. Also, the list was posted before TBS HD.

ans2004 · 10-09-2007, 09:50 AM

just to let you know, the regional sports networks on directv are 24HR channels, not part time. only the alternate sports channels are part time. i currently have 5 of the 24hr channels in hd with more to come....................

yes hd
new england sports net hd
sportsnet new york hd
comcast sports net mid atlantic hd
comcast sportsnet chicago hd

directv also has 14 nhl hd channels

drock912001 · 10-09-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Citico

Couldn't agree more on the VOOM channels. Also, the list was posted before TBS HD.

Look again TBS is 6th on that list.

10-08-2007, 02:51 PM	#1
ans2004 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 180	how can dish claim 49 national hd channels tv predictions.com has an article that dish network announcedtoday that they now have 49 national hd channels. the funny part is that 8 of those are pay per view channels. what a joke. if thats how they count, then directv has alot more national hd channels. directv only counts actual national channels, not pay per view or sport event channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-08-2007, 05:19 PM	#3
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10-09-2007, 07:21 AM	#9
Yes616 Bit by the HD Bug Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Liberty - Catskill Mtns, NY Posts: 658	I got 35 I count 35 HD national cable channels plus the Big 10 Alts + Center Ice + PPV's + Premiums + HD locals. I didn't count those NBAHD and HDEV1 channels that never seem to be on. __________________ Yes616 "Here's whats happening on another VOOM HD Network" DISH ViP 722 w/HDMI Toshiba 57H84 HDTV w/HDMI Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V863 (7.2 Channels) TR Theater Research 1610 / 1611 Speaker Pack Yamaha YST-SW315 Subwoofers X 2 A ViP 211 upstairs in the bedroom with an Olevia HDTV operated by the Dish 21.0 remote

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10-08-2007, 05:16 PM	#2
skywatchbob How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18	Way to go Dish, stretch the truth. Some complain about stretched picture but we are getting stretched truth. Does this mean we won't get more channels in the future. I am reading the forums and hearing about all the new channels on Directv. I am jealous. It seems E* is being strategic in expanding its HD offering. Are they limited with their satellites, while Direct's bird has lots of room? Even if they gave up five of those pay per view channels they could make a credible effort to keep up until they launch another satellite. When they do stuff like this I start thinking that I can't wait until the contract is up. At least I do have some good HD channels to watch, and the promotion I received gives me a good discount.

10-08-2007, 05:52 PM	#4
garys High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Greentown, PA Age: 53 Posts: 1,523	The person who wrote the article did not do his homework. There are so many incorrect statements in the article. He did not get the info from anyone from Dish Network.

10-09-2007, 08:04 AM	#10
Citico How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 18	Dish National HD channel count (for those who are keeping score 1) Food Network HD (24-7 Unique Schedule to Sd counterpart) 2) HGTV (24/7 - Ditto to above) 3) A&E (Some HD - the rest STRETCH-O-VISION) 4) History Channel HD (Ditto - Stretch-O-Vision) 5) TNT (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision) 6) TBS (Some HD - The rest Scaled stretch-o-vision) 7) ESPN (Lots of HD events, 4x3 SD with borders that prevent burn-in) 8) ESPN 2 (Same as ESPN) 9) NFL Network (many HD events, 4x3 SD with black bars) 10) Discovery Channel (Some HD with "zoomed" SD programs thin black lines on the sides) 11) TLC (Same as Discovery) 12) Animal Planet (Same as Discovery only not as many HD programs) 13) National Geographic Channel (Lots of HD with 4x3 SD black bars) 14) Science Channel (Same as Discovery) 15) Versus/Golf Channel (Some HD events, otherwise mostly 4x3 with black bars) 16) Big 10 Network + 4 Alternates (HD Events 4x3 with black bars) 24/7 HD Content Channels 17) HD Theater 18) HD Net 19) HD Net Movies 20) Universal HD 21) MHD (combo of MTV/VH1 and CMT) Voom Channels "no one" wants. All Commercial Free and all 24/7 HD (I am not "no one") 22) Rave (music/concerts) 23) Equator (Like the Travel channel and the old OLN) 24) Gallery (Museum/Fine Arts) 25) Treasure (Collectibles/Travel) 26) Animania (some of the worst cartoons you ever saw!) 27) World Cinema (Movies from around the world) 28) Rush (Extreme Sports) 29) World Sport (Sports from around the world and replayed 78,092,832 times) 30) Ultra (Everything you never wanted to know about fashion) 31) Kung Fu (Martial arts movies some great some very camp) 32) Film Fest (More movies from all over) 33) Monster (Horror/monster/sci-fi movies) 34) HD News Channel 35) Game Play (What G4 was before Tech TV/ZDTV) 36) Family (Some good movies for the kids + endless reruns of Flipper and Thunderbirds) Premium Channels (east versions only) Movies shown original aspect ratio (OAR) including additional letterboxing or pillarboxing when necessary 37) HBO 38) Cinemax 39) Starz 40) Showtime Regional Sports Networks (Part Time Channels) - Counting these only because DirecTV counts theirs 41) Comcast Sports Net 42) Altitude 43) Fox Sports Net Prime Ticket 44) Fox Sports Rocky Mountain 45) Fox Sports Arizona 46) Fox Sports Southwest 47) Fox Sports West 48) Fox Sports Midwest 49) Fox Sports South 50) Sun Sports 51) Fox Sports Florida 52) Comcast Sports Mid Atlantic 53) Fox Sports Ohio (Cleveland/Columbus) 54) Fox Sports Ohio (Cincinnati) 55) Fox Sports Northwest 56) Fox Sports Pittsburgh 57) Comcast Sports Net Chicago 58) Fox Sports Detroit 59) Sports Time Ohio 60) Fox Sports North 61) SportSouth 62) Sports Net New York Counting these only because DirecTV counts their one channel 63-70) Pay Per View HD (8 channels) 71-86) NHL Center Ice HD channels (Event only part time channels) + the 4 Big Ten Network Alternates not counted yet. 90 unique HD channels on Dish Network right now. This list was posted on another site and I have copied it here.

10-09-2007, 09:08 AM	#12
richiephx1 I want MORE! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 112	I happen to watch a lot of the VOOM channels. They are 24/7 HD channels. VOOM has a wide variety of HD movies, sports, and specials that aren't seen anywhere else. They are now adding more and more new programming all the time. There are repeats, yes, but, you find the same programming repeated on most of the non-VOOM and the new HD channels. I would suggest to those who are most critical of VOOM, that they watch the channels first before they make judgements that are not factual.

10-09-2007, 09:50 AM	#14
ans2004 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 180	just to let you know, the regional sports networks on directv are 24HR channels, not part time. only the alternate sports channels are part time. i currently have 5 of the 24hr channels in hd with more to come.................... yes hd new england sports net hd sportsnet new york hd comcast sports net mid atlantic hd comcast sportsnet chicago hd directv also has 14 nhl hd channels