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Old 07-01-2009, 07:03 PM   #1
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Default How much of the 5lnb SLIM dish is used for each sat?

Anyone know how much area of this rather large dish is actually used to collect the signal for 99/101/103 vs. 110/119 ??

How little/much is used just for the central sats (99/101/103 - ka/ku/ka)?

Would the old 3lnb ku dish offer enough gain/signal for the 99/101/103 sats and would the focal length/lnb arm work?

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Old 07-04-2009, 09:09 AM   #2
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I didn't have to guess it's designed to offer the best signal for the size it is.

Since it's call slimline I don't think they'd have made it any bigger than they had to.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:07 PM   #3
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People have experimented putting the Slimline 3 LNB on the old dish and found that they can make it work. The signal strengths are lower and it is more difficult to align than the slimline dish, but it is OK for temporary or even RV use. Go to dbstalk and search for "Experimental Small Slimline3 Dish"
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I didn't have to guess it's designed to offer the best signal for the size it is.

Since it's call slimline I don't think they'd have made it any bigger than they had to.
Just to prod you some, Go look again at the Dish and LNBs, there are spaces for extra LNBs on the left (looking at dish, LNB in front of dish) thus, rational thought suggests (as well as likely experimentation) that not all of the dish is, necessarily, used in normal 5 or especially 3lnb setup.

But guess what, I don't know for a fact, and thus the posed question? I, like too few, do not assume very many things, and thus ask questions, and of course you know what 'assuming' does!

They once 'assumed' that the earth was flat, it was their unquestioned experience!

PS: to the primitive man, high tech seems like magic, but to the even little learned today, we know it is not and there are many limitations!!

But thanks for the effort, watch those assumptions!
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:29 PM   #5
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION - gleaned from quick look at dbstalk:

*** Thanks to you Texasbrit for your dbstalk suggestion!! ***


Ppl have gotten BOTH the old 3lnb dish and the old 1lnb (orig 18") dish to work using the new SLIM 3LNB ka/ku heads (just as I suspected would be possible)!!

The 1lnb dish was used in a 90degree orientation (sideways) to broaden the pickup to make less sensitive (99/103) to point and more signal strength. Small is better when camping!!

Signal strengths of 80-95 for 99/103 and 90-100 for 101! That's what I normally get here while in Oregon coastal areas (and in Calif - SF area) using BUD5 (big ugly SLIM5 dish )!!

My RV's rooftop is the smaller (18") 1lnb, I used for Dish 500 (2 lnb) with no modifications, and will now try it sideways for DTV HD when I get a ka/ku 3LNB!!

So, it DOES pay to ask questions!!

PS: DTV will be offering the new 3lnb on dish similar to old 3lnb dish (smaller than BUD5) for certain users/markets soon.
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Just to prod you some, Go look again at the Dish and LNBs, there are spaces for extra LNBs on the left (looking at dish, LNB in front of dish) thus, rational thought suggests (as well as likely experimentation) that not all of the dish is, necessarily, used in normal 5 or especially 3lnb setup.

But guess what, I don't know for a fact, and thus the posed question? I, like too few, do not assume very many things, and thus ask questions, and of course you know what 'assuming' does!

They once 'assumed' that the earth was flat, it was their unquestioned experience!

PS: to the primitive man, high tech seems like magic, but to the even little learned today, we know it is not and there are many limitations!!

But thanks for the effort, watch those assumptions!
That's pretty funny how you compared people thinking the earth was flat to people thinking a slimline dish was to big or whatever it was was you were saying about the slimline dish. Pretty much the same thing.
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That's pretty funny how you compared people thinking the earth was flat to people thinking a slimline dish was to big or whatever it was was you were saying about the slimline dish. Pretty much the same thing.
How about if they were too big?
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How about if they were too big?
Whatever.....

You sure got with that one.
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:32 PM   #10
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That's pretty funny how you compared people thinking the earth was flat to people thinking a slimline dish was to big or whatever it was was you were saying about the slimline dish. Pretty much the same thing.
I was discussing how you 'assumed' that it would take the huge SLIM5 dish to receive HD DTV, your assumptions are so easy especially for someone who is too lazy to think, in the very least creatively.

Lazy ppl just spew what they have heard/learned, the less lazy try to see other possibilities, we call them engineers, scientist, etc and apparently not 'glennb1'

Happy assuming!!
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I was discussing how you 'assumed' that it would take the huge SLIM5 dish to receive HD DTV, your assumptions are so easy especially for someone who is too lazy to think, in the very least creatively.

Lazy ppl just spew what they have heard/learned, the less lazy try to see other possibilities, we call them engineers, scientist, etc and apparently not 'glennb1'

Happy assuming!!
I wouldn't say I'm lazy. I prefer to install my own DIRECTV dishes instead of having the hack job free install from DIRECTV. I do a lot of my own home maintenance, etc....

I just don't see the point of trying to re-invent the satellite dish.

Maybe you can flatten a bunch of aluminum cans, glue them together, attach an LNB to make your own dish.

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Have fun being a prick!!
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:00 PM   #12
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This new Slimline dish from DIRECTV is smaller, lighter and better looking. It encompasses three LNBs to receive 101°, 110°, 119° degree satellite, plus the new Ka satellite (99°, 103°) for local HD MPEG4 programming. Capable of receiving DIRECTV satellite signals on the Ku band (101°, 110°, 119°) and Ka band (99°, 103°).

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It's funny you said it encompasses three LNBs and you list 5 satellite loctations. The slimline3 has LNBs for the 99, 101, 103 satellite locations which covers all the HD channels. That's what most new HD customers are getting now. DIRECTV isn't using the 110, 119 satellites for HD anymore. The slimline5 has LNBs for 99,101,103,110,119.
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