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Old 02-16-2008, 01:17 AM   #1
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Ok so i did a little google research and i came up with a couple posts from around the web by people who got out of paying the fees associated with breaking the directv contract. most were people who only had service 4-5 months of a 2 year agreement.

after canceling the contract you will get a letter explaining you need to pay a fee. well in every case i found which the person asked to have their case arbitrated directv suddenly changed their tune and canceled the remaining fees.

it would seem that,

1. directv does not want to set a example for other subscribers who by going through with a arbitration and losing. can you imagine what losing such a case would do to their company. then imagine if it ended up getting any online media coverage. man that would really cause directv a whole lot more then the fee itself. now i got this info from very recent posts 2008 so it's most likely that the policy has not changed since.

2. directv would have to send lawyers simply because the cost of losing such a case might end up being a whole lot bigger then the fee itself. can yo imagine a judge looking over the contract and deciding it's a bad faith contract and directv should not be allowed to force people into such a contract and then follow it up with such poor service.

so now they are paying lawyers for their time. you don't even got to bring a lawyer so your cost is your time out of work. now directv is being killed with lawyer fees and it's not like they can ask the arbitrator to make you responsable for their fees. it's a right you have so directv can't question it.


so asking for your case to be arbitrated will definetly help your chances.



here is another tip for those who owe credit cards and hospital bills but can't afford to pay them. if it ever gets to the point where you get a court date simply ask the other side for proof that you owe the said fee. much more times then not the lawyers are sent into court with no paperwork other then your name saying you owe.

say you don't remember owning that card or going to that hospital so you need proof. it's amazing how many people don't ask this and end up losing their case. those who ask for proof alot more times then not end up winning the case. once you ask for proof the burdon is on them to prove the case. when you walk into court the burdon is on you too prove payment or explain why you have not paid. once you ask for proof then it's back on them.

if they don't have proof or don't show up then ask the judge to dismiss the case and clear your debt. if a court appoints someone to step in for a missing lawyer for the opposing side then object. if the judge tries to continue the case then explain they asked for this date not you so it should be their responsability to come to court prepared and you should not be forced to miss another day of work for a debt you don't owe. sometimes court employees step in for missing lawyers and they recieve a commission from the credit card companies. this should be strongly objected to since you are being requested to be there by the debt collector and not the other day around.

just some advice for those who are tight with cash and need some help. good luck.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:05 AM   #2
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Any tips on getting stubborn coffee stains out of my carpet?

Seriously, I don't know if your methods are effective or not, but thanks for the tips. I've tried the same tack with a collection agency which insists I owe Sprint 75 bucks from a previous account, which I DON'T. I've told them to fax me proof FROM Sprint, not just a piece of paper from them saying I owe the money, but they refuse. They still keep calling though.
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Quote"here is another tip for those who owe credit cards and hospital bills..."

If you owe it, pay it. I'm tired of paying your bills by having mine increased. Man-up and pay, you deadbeat.
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If I truly believed that the folks giving all this advice had a law degree on their wall instead of a quarter moon cut out, I might go way out on a limb and believe them. But not until.....
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the local tv station did a story last week on bill collectors harrassing people and how to make it stop. Here is a news story.... pay ur bills and they will stop calling.
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Responsibility.... What's that?
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Ok so i did a little google research and i came up with a couple posts from around the web by people who got out of paying the fees associated with breaking the directv contract. most were people who only had service 4-5 months of a 2 year agreement.

after canceling the contract you will get a letter explaining you need to pay a fee. well in every case i found which the person asked to have their case arbitrated directv suddenly changed their tune and canceled the remaining fees.

it would seem that,

1. directv does not want to set a example for other subscribers who by going through with a arbitration and losing. can you imagine what losing such a case would do to their company. then imagine if it ended up getting any online media coverage. man that would really cause directv a whole lot more then the fee itself. now i got this info from very recent posts 2008 so it's most likely that the policy has not changed since.

2. directv would have to send lawyers simply because the cost of losing such a case might end up being a whole lot bigger then the fee itself. can yo imagine a judge looking over the contract and deciding it's a bad faith contract and directv should not be allowed to force people into such a contract and then follow it up with such poor service.

so now they are paying lawyers for their time. you don't even got to bring a lawyer so your cost is your time out of work. now directv is being killed with lawyer fees and it's not like they can ask the arbitrator to make you responsable for their fees. it's a right you have so directv can't question it.


so asking for your case to be arbitrated will definetly help your chances.



here is another tip for those who owe credit cards and hospital bills but can't afford to pay them. if it ever gets to the point where you get a court date simply ask the other side for proof that you owe the said fee. much more times then not the lawyers are sent into court with no paperwork other then your name saying you owe.

say you don't remember owning that card or going to that hospital so you need proof. it's amazing how many people don't ask this and end up losing their case. those who ask for proof alot more times then not end up winning the case. once you ask for proof the burdon is on them to prove the case. when you walk into court the burdon is on you too prove payment or explain why you have not paid. once you ask for proof then it's back on them.

if they don't have proof or don't show up then ask the judge to dismiss the case and clear your debt. if a court appoints someone to step in for a missing lawyer for the opposing side then object. if the judge tries to continue the case then explain they asked for this date not you so it should be their responsability to come to court prepared and you should not be forced to miss another day of work for a debt you don't owe. sometimes court employees step in for missing lawyers and they recieve a commission from the credit card companies. this should be strongly objected to since you are being requested to be there by the debt collector and not the other day around.

just some advice for those who are tight with cash and need some help. good luck.

I have a better idea for those with debt. PAY, they'll stop calling immediately, i promise. Posts like this make it seem like there is always a way out of your obligations. We, the people that pay, are the one that pay for the people that don't, don't think for a second that these companies just pay for it themselves, they are covered in rate increase and such. So thanks so much for enabling others.
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WoW talk about a bunch of stuck up people. i can see from reading previous posts you guys have this thing for giving people a hard time.

for the people telling me to pay me bill guess what,

I have -0- debt and paid off over $50k in debt, so how's that for owning up to my responsabilities? my whole setup was paid cash, new benz paid cash, new house almost paid off before we even moved in... so there is no reason to be so harsh.

all i'm giving advice for is those who are getting screwed. can you gusy honestly say it is fair that directv uses customer service and honesty to sell their product. they even say their support is beyond what cable provider off when trying to sell you service. look how many people are getting screwed. those of you complaining about directv charging for boxes that are already retured are not a 1 in a million case. check the web and it comes up way to often. those who realize to late are told to screw off because according to their contract they only got to pay you back 60 days for of over charged fees.

well if companies like directv can use b.s. tactics like this to get away with screwing us over then why can't the consumer? why should we not be allowed to take advantage of the law just like directv is. the law is the law and if there is a loop hole then use it until it's closed.

as for the bills that was not intended for people with $2k in debt because they are young and can't help themselfs from shopping. it's for some people who are truely in a bind because their martgage rate went through the roof or got ill and suddenly they have a choice over paying bills or medical expenses.

you guys can come at me all you want but it doesn't change the fact that these companies use illigal tactics to collect themselfs. they pay court employees to stand in for their lawyers when they can't get to the appointment and that's just not fair. you can lose a case with no evidence against you. then on top of that judges who allow this tactic are given bonuses at the end of the year. how the hell is that being honest and fair?

so come at me with your high and mighty attitude but until you have been there or have been around people who are then your opinion does not matter to me. those who decide to take a chance on the advice will be surprised.

oh and for the record,

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/bankrup...ion-50147.html

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/rebu...lidation.shtml

nope i don't know anything i'm talking this stuff and neither do these lawyers.

everyone is entitled to their own legal defense and asking for proof of the debt is not a bad faith tactic. infact not asking for proof is considered a dumb move.

<------- just to be childish.
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Here's a news flash, every debt in your name is not your debt. So why would you pay it if it isn't your debt? Just so the bill collectors will stop calling? I think not! Someone with the same name in the same city as me owed American Express $4000, so you think I should have manned-up and paid it? Hell no! I don't care that they called everyday three times a day.
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I have -0- debt and paid off over $50k in debt, so how's that for owning up to my responsabilities? my whole setup was paid cash, new benz paid cash, new house almost paid off before we even moved in... so there is no reason to be so harsh.

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Someone with the same name in the same city as me owed American Express $4000, so you think I should have manned-up and paid it?
Not quite the same situation now is it?


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....people who got out of paying the fees associated with breaking the directv contract.

.....after canceling the contract you will get a letter explaining you need to pay a fee.

.....another tip for those who owe credit cards and hospital bills but can't afford to pay them.

........say you don't remember owning that card or going to that hospital so you need proof.

just some advice for those who are tight with cash and need some help. good luck.
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Dude ........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation
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Any tips on getting stubborn coffee stains out of my carpet?
Yes as a matter of fact I do, I thought no one would ever ask me. I used hydrogen peroxide 3% solution, that's the stuff you can buy almost anywhere, normally used as an anti-infective. Just put it in a spray bottle and after you rinse the stain several times and get all the coffee out you can just spray the spot with hydrogen peroxide. You don't need to really soak it just spray some on and let it set for a few hours. Then keep repeating several times and the coffee stain will go away a little at a time. Don't wipe or scrub, just spray and let it set.

I had a big coffee stain on my new carpet 2 weeks ago, a whole 12 oz cup, and it worked great.
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Thanks, good advice for those who 'wrongly' think they have gotten bad treatment or 'bad faith service' from DTV! There really are sorry examples of treatment out there

Not great advice to those who want out just for the heck of it! They should get their mommies to pay their bills

There are lots of sheeple on the forum, they have very few original or individual thoughts, they think that all is well with world and large corporations never do wrong, large corporations love these sheeple, if only they would go Baaaa-Baaaa in public, that way we could avoid them like the plague they are, as well as coral them up and work them as slaves!

Now that is original thought, well not really, makes me sound like a republican, rather than the independent I am!!

Good luck Sheeple, may the corporations take advantage of your bleating hearts
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...Now that is original thought, well not really, makes me sound like a republican, rather than the independent I am!! ...
Wouldn't have guessed you as an independent.
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