So, $9.99 for HD is now an "access fee."

WhoZit · 09-13-2007, 07:10 PM

So much for hoping to get HD for the same price as before. Looks like it will take Premium package + $9.99 for HD access + $4.99 for the HD only channnels to get 'em all. I counted 29 additional channels for Choice and 37 for Choice+. No HD only package is offered. Looks like all save the Premium HD's to be available until Dec. 15. At least that gives us some time to see how many we really want. I saw the 4 Starz HD channels coming and thought $12.00 for Starz with 4 HD channels was a good deal, so I jumped in for that.

Lastly, I'm not surprised they divied up the HD channels with different packages. Gotta pay for the sats somehow I guess.

BamaPanda · 09-13-2007, 08:49 PM

Is this a definite and can you give links ..or just supposition at this point?

WhoZit · 09-13-2007, 09:04 PM

1) Sept. 19 HD Channel Launch Date Q&A

2) D*'s own website

3) And posts I've been reading for the last few weeks.

It is clear there will be different numbers of HD channesl based on your current (or future) D* package.

DtvRep07 · 09-13-2007, 11:01 PM

HD Access has been around since early February of this year.

buzd · 09-13-2007, 11:58 PM

For the 9.99 that I would assume you're currently paying, you will keep you're existing HD, plus add anything broadcast in HD that you currently have in SD.

For 4.99 you can add HD-only stations, for which I can't find a list. Smithsonian is the only speculation I've seen.

Seems reasonable to me.

All HBO's, ESPN, and local network are really all I need, and I have that now.

EDIT: Wife would very much like SOAP channel to go HD. All I can say is PLEASE no....

slapshot · 09-14-2007, 12:45 AM

Its always been this way. Think about it for a sec, do you get HBO in HD without buying HBO? I cant see how we would make any money giving someone the family package and then giving them everything they dont get in normal digital in HD that just would not work lol.

Just went through another HD training program tonight then got some green time so if you have questions let me know.

slapshot · 09-14-2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzd

For the 9.99 that I would assume you're currently paying, you will keep you're existing HD, plus add anything broadcast in HD that you currently have in SD.

For 4.99 you can add HD-only stations, for which I can't find a list. Smithsonian is the only speculation I've seen.

Seems reasonable to me.

All HBO's, ESPN, and local network are really all I need, and I have that now.

EDIT: Wife would very much like SOAP channel to go HD. All I can say is PLEASE no....

there are 5 HD only channels as of right now and they will all be free for a period of time.

WhoZit · 09-14-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapshot

Its always been this way. Think about it for a sec, do you get HBO in HD without buying HBO? I cant see how we would make any money giving someone the family package and then giving them everything they dont get in normal digital in HD that just would not work lol.

Just went through another HD training program tonight then got some green time so if you have questions let me know.

Except for Premeir, ALL other tiers got the same HD channels for $9.99 before. It was an HD package. Now they are offering a different number of HD channels depending on which SD channel package you buy. Plus there is now an extra HD channel (HD only, not broadcast in SD) for another $4.99. AND yes I realize the Premeir HD channels were and are ONLY available through the Premeir Package. What is odd now for example you will get National Geographic with Family and Choice Plus , but NOT Choice. Just an observation. How many more will be added to the HD Xtra Package besides Smithsonian?

moonman · 09-14-2007, 07:29 PM

I have seen in other posts in another forum, that the extra charge for the H/D extra
channels(those that will not be simulcast), will be free for everyone until Dec. 15th at which time it will be charged to all(no grandfathering)...I hope this is not true!
HDNet, HDNet Movies, and Universal HD will be a part of the pack, along with MHD, Smithsonian HD, and MGM HD.

Tedric · 09-14-2007, 07:34 PM

I do not think any reasonable person can expect D* to launch two new sats, add a ton of HD channels and not get some added revenue for a return on their investment. As for me...I will gladly pay a reasonable fee. Profit is not a dirty word.

WhoZit · 09-14-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moonman

I have seen in other posts in another forum, that the extra charge for the H/D extra
channels(those that will not be simulcast), will be free for everyone until Dec. 15th at which time it will be charged to all(no grandfathering)...I hope this is not true!
HDNet, HDNet Movies, and Universal HD will be a part of the pack, along with MHD, Smithsonian HD, and MGM HD.

'Tis true. The HD Extra Package is going to cost $4.99 after Dec. 15. This is in addition to the $9.99 for HD access.

slapshot · 09-15-2007, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoZit

'Tis true. The HD Extra Package is going to cost $4.99 after Dec. 15. This is in addition to the $9.99 for HD access.

True but by then you'll know if you want them its only 5 channels.

slapshot · 09-15-2007, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoZit

Except for Premeir, ALL other tiers got the same HD channels for $9.99 before. It was an HD package. Now they are offering a different number of HD channels depending on which SD channel package you buy. Plus there is now an extra HD channel (HD only, not broadcast in SD) for another $4.99. AND yes I realize the Premeir HD channels were and are ONLY available through the Premeir Package. What is odd now for example you will get National Geographic with Family and Choice Plus , but NOT Choice. Just an observation. How many more will be added to the HD Xtra Package besides Smithsonian?

But you are talking about a total of what 8 channels max w/o the premium channels? And guess what those channels you got BEFORE the new channels launched, you will still get after regardless of the package and I believe there is going to be a grandfather for that but dont quote me on it yet.

dman59 · 09-15-2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapshot

But you are talking about a total of what 8 channels max w/o the premium channels? And guess what those channels you got BEFORE the new channels launched, you will still get after regardless of the package and I believe there is going to be a grandfather for that but dont quote me on it yet.

Well, after the new launch; thoses eight channels are going to decrease. So, for those customer that kept their H10 or HR10-250; don't expect to have the same eight channels after the new launch.

Asterisk (*) indicates HD channel available only with H20, H21, HR20 and HR21 receivers.
Note: Lime Green channels are currently available. 5 lnb dish, H20/H21, HR20/HR21 with BBC(S) required when HD channels roll out this month.
Channels that are highlighed in RED are new channels:

September 2007
A&E *265
Big Ten Network HD *220
Cartoon Network *296
Cinemax HD East *512
Cinemax HD West *514
CNN HD *202
Discovery HD Theater 76
ESPN HD 72, *206
ESPN2 HD 73, *209
Food Network HD *231-1
FSN New York HD *624
The Golf Channel HD (shared with Versus HD) *604
HBO HD East 70, 509, *501
HBO HD West *504
HDNet 79
HDNet Movies 78
HGTV-HD *229-1
The History Channel HD *269
Madison Square Garden HD *621
MHD (HD only) *332
The Movie Channel HD *544
NFL Network HD *212
National Geographic Channel HD *276
Showtime HD 71, 543, *537
Showtime HD West *540
Smithsonian Channel HD (HD only) *267
Starz Comedy HD *519
Starz HD East *520
Starz Edge HD *522
Starz Kids & Family HD *518
Starz HD West *521
TBS in HD *247
TNT HD 75, *245
Universal HD 74
Versus HD (shared with The Golf Channel HD) *604
The Weather Channel HD *362

October 2007
Animal Planet HD *282
Bravo HD *273
Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD 680 *640
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD 681, *629
Discovery Channel HD *278
Fox Business Channel HD *359
FSN Detroit HD *636
FSN Prime Ticket HD *653
FSN Southwest HD *643
FSN West HD *652
Fuel TV HD *612
FX HD *248
NBA TV HD *601-1
New England Sports Network HD 682, *623
The Science Channel HD *284
Sci-Fi Network HD *244
Speed Channel HD *607
SportsNet New York HD 683, *625
USA Network HD *242
Yankees Entertainment & Sports HD 684, *622

Well, if you are still using your HR10-250 or H10 or any old HD ird; you won't be able to pick up those channels by the end of this month.

stonedog23 · 09-15-2007, 02:42 PM

Dang, we have two DTV employees who can't agree, but we are use to that having dealt with customer service all these years.

09-13-2007, 07:10 PM	#1
WhoZit HD enthusiast. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 47	So, $9.99 for HD is now an "access fee." So much for hoping to get HD for the same price as before. Looks like it will take Premium package + $9.99 for HD access + $4.99 for the HD only channnels to get 'em all. I counted 29 additional channels for Choice and 37 for Choice+. No HD only package is offered. Looks like all save the Premium HD's to be available until Dec. 15. At least that gives us some time to see how many we really want. I saw the 4 Starz HD channels coming and thought $12.00 for Starz with 4 HD channels was a good deal, so I jumped in for that. Lastly, I'm not surprised they divied up the HD channels with different packages. Gotta pay for the sats somehow I guess. __________________ Mitsubishi 62" WS-a65 Toshiba HD-A2 HD20

09-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#2
BamaPanda Something will come to me Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Talladega County, Alabama Posts: 1,145	Is this a definite and can you give links ..or just supposition at this point? __________________ Everyone is a fan!

09-13-2007, 09:04 PM	#3
WhoZit HD enthusiast. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 47	1) Sept. 19 HD Channel Launch Date Q&A 2) D's own website 3) And posts I've been reading for the last few weeks. It is clear there will be different numbers of HD channesl based on your current (or future) D package. __________________ Mitsubishi 62" WS-a65 Toshiba HD-A2 HD20

09-13-2007, 11:01 PM	#4
DtvRep07 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 282	HD Access has been around since early February of this year.

09-13-2007, 11:58 PM	#5
buzd High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 238	For the 9.99 that I would assume you're currently paying, you will keep you're existing HD, plus add anything broadcast in HD that you currently have in SD. For 4.99 you can add HD-only stations, for which I can't find a list. Smithsonian is the only speculation I've seen. Seems reasonable to me. All HBO's, ESPN, and local network are really all I need, and I have that now. EDIT: Wife would very much like SOAP channel to go HD. All I can say is PLEASE no....

09-14-2007, 12:45 AM	#6
slapshot High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 110	Its always been this way. Think about it for a sec, do you get HBO in HD without buying HBO? I cant see how we would make any money giving someone the family package and then giving them everything they dont get in normal digital in HD that just would not work lol. Just went through another HD training program tonight then got some green time so if you have questions let me know.

09-14-2007, 07:29 PM	#9
moonman Barefoot in Florida Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So. Florida Posts: 119	I have seen in other posts in another forum, that the extra charge for the H/D extra channels(those that will not be simulcast), will be free for everyone until Dec. 15th at which time it will be charged to all(no grandfathering)...I hope this is not true! HDNet, HDNet Movies, and Universal HD will be a part of the pack, along with MHD, Smithsonian HD, and MGM HD.

09-14-2007, 07:34 PM	#10
Tedric How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 17	I do not think any reasonable person can expect D* to launch two new sats, add a ton of HD channels and not get some added revenue for a return on their investment. As for me...I will gladly pay a reasonable fee. Profit is not a dirty word.

09-15-2007, 02:42 PM	#15
stonedog23 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 725	Dang, we have two DTV employees who can't agree, but we are use to that having dealt with customer service all these years.