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Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 12,335
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I guess I would put the new one on the most watched TV, but it probably won't make a difference in PQ.
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Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Age: 47
Posts: 7
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I have a few questions however...
I have the Phase III, 3-LNB dish, feeding an HD receiver in one room and an SD receiver in another. The installer only ran 2 lines from the dish into the house. Works great, now to expand... I just purchased the R10 DVR (can't afford the HR10) and I would like to place this with the HD receiver. I've decided to use a 5X8 multiswitch to have the flexibility of piping HD signal to any of eight receivers (plus an OTA antenna) into other rooms. I can't see spending the ~$500 on a Spaun multiswitch, what are others using here with success? I'll be running all of the coax lines to a central distribution point, will I ever need more than 4 lines from the dish? What if I switch over to Voom? Will D* multiswitches work with Voom (should that be V* now)? I've also researched some info about multiswitches. I've read that if you have a Phase III dish, and expect to distribute HD signals, you must use an HD multiswitch. From what I can gather, an HD multiswitch and a Phase III multiswitch are the same. Is that correct? And that all four lines from the dish need to be connected to the multiswitch. Sound about right so far? This expansion is going to require some new coax runs to the other rooms of the house. I read that the "standard" is to run 2 lines per room. This should cover just about anything I want to connect, right? Except for where I'll place the R10, I'll have to run 3 lines to that room (2 for the R10, 1 for the HD receiver). I think that about covers it. Sorry for the newbie questions here but I'm hoping to avoid some mistakes before I start drilling holes all over the place.
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What is HD?
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2
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Tim,
I'm using a 5x8 multiswitch I got on ebay I connected all lines from the phase 3 dish to it and get my SD and HD fine. I'm trying to add the OTA's into the multiswitch for distribution to all my receivers but the OTA digital local channels cause problems when put in the same cable with the sat. feed. I have the diplexers at the STB's (set top box (receivers)) this separates the rf and dc signals , I could put a diplexer between the OTA antenna and the multiswitch, but it would only pass the rf signal in to the system, it would block the off air local digitals ( the HD broadcasts that I'm after) so the only alternative seems to be a separate cable from the OTA antenna to the HD STB's the SD STB's will get local rf channels from the OTA antenna with the diplexer between the antenna and the multi switch. Or look at those ugly rabbit ears , which do work here in Charlotte (wifey don't like e'm looks like I'll be pulling cable) Anyone else have any expieriance trying to do this please respond. The multiswitch I have should work with any sat. system When I bought the auction was for 3 so I have a couple to spare let me know I could sell you one for $30, I'm going to keep one for a spare. they are new. |
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Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Age: 47
Posts: 7
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Thanks for the info. What brand and model are the multiswitches you have? Are they HDTV compatible?
From what I have read, you should be able to plug the OTA antenna into the MS, and use a diplexer at the STB just as you described. This is what i'm hoping to do anyway. The diplexer's job is to seperate/combine the sat signal from the OTA signal. Not to block the DC. The OTA signals are <800 MHz and the sat signals are >800 MHz (give or take). This allows the use of one cable to pass both signals to your STB. Once it gets to your STB, the signals have to be seperated so they can be plugged into the STB into the correct ports. The diplexer is nothing more than a low pass filter on the OTA side and a high pass filter on the sat side and a circuit that combines them (or seperates them depending on how you look at it). Using a diplexer on the input to the MS is not needed. The MS should have a built-in combiner to integrate the OTA signals to all 8 sat outputs. Check out the first post by rbinck with the second picture. It shows the Phase III dish & OTA antenna -> 5X6 MS -> 4 STB with diplexers. If you're getting poor sat signal when using the diplexer, I would check the sat signal level at the STB. If your signal level is good you may have a poor quality diplexer that is not providing enough isolation between the sat and OTA signals. I know what you mean about the rabbit ears, can't count how many times I've heard about those from the other half... Disclaimer: I am still quite a newbie at this but the info presented above is how I understand things to work. I am no expert by any means. |
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My plasma is High Def.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Longmont, Colorado
Posts: 5
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I am pretty new at this stuff and need some guidance. I have DTV with locals and am looking to buying an H-10 D* receiver for HD programming to my main TV. My current set-up is:
1. Sony Grand Wega (IV) 55WF655 with built-in ATSC HD tuner. My Sony GWIV has seven seperate video inputs including HDMI, two component, and three S-Videos, cable & VHF/UHF. 2. Separate OTA antennae that runs directly into the VHF/UHF TV's input on my SONY GWIV 55WF which has a built-in ATSC tuner for OTA HD broadcasts. 3. One dual LNB dish feeding D* to two rooms with standard receivers w/local channels. One cable each from that dish to each room. 4. One Triple LNB dish. 5. I have a Phillip's TIVO D* receiver w/locals. Two cables run from the triple LNB dish to the Phillips TIVO and from that receiver to my Sony TV via S-Video Input. One other cable runs from the triple LNB to another room with a standard D* receiver. This leaves one unused cable from the triple LNB open. I want to buy the HD H-10 receiver and run the unused 4th cable from the triple LNB to the H-10 receiver for D* HD programming which I would connect via the H-10’s HDMI out to the TV's HDMI in for HD programming. I will leave the TIVO’s configuration as the two current cables from the Triple LNB dish to the Phillips TIVO and from it via S-Video to a separate input on my Sony GWIV HDTV. My hope is this results in D* HD programming from the H-10 via HDMI, and SD programming w/locals from the Phillips TIVO receiver in its current configuration (S-video input). It seems like it should work since different TV inputs are being used to display different programming and don’t feed into each other. Of course now I will have another remote to deal with, but that's another problem all by itself. Will this setup work? Do I need to add any switches ETC? Is the H-10 the way to go or is there a better HD receiver for D* out there that has HDMI out? I hope this makes sense.
Last edited by Mtnmike; 01-20-2005 at 12:47 PM. |
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#21 |
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Tech Dude
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 2
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Has anyone encountered the following situation?
I recently moved to a new construction house and unfortunately the builder installed ONE RG6 cable feed from the outside into my panel, where it is distributed to the rooms. On my previous house in Florida, the builder had two cable feeds into the panel and when DirecTV came to install the dish, they had no problems with my setup. My setup in Florida was one triple-LNB dish, 1 HDTV receiver and 2 standard receivers. The installer had a combination of diplexers and multiswitches installed. I was able to see basic cable or DirecTV feeds. My OTA antenna was hooked up directly into the HDTV receiver. When DirecTV came yesterday to install my dish, they said they could not do it because I need to have 4 additional cables fed into my panel for the setup to work. How can I accomplish the same setup in my new house with only one feed from the outside? On a separate note, I want to compliment everyone in this forum and thread for the wealth of information provided. Keep up the good work! |
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#22 |
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Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 12,335
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It is not possible. You will need at least 2 cables from your dish into your house if you are going to hook up more than 1 satellite tuner. Remember DVRs have two tuners.
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Tech Dude
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 2
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Thanks. I was afraid it was such the case.
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Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Katy, Texas
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You were correct in your PM, I did miss the question in post #20 Mtnmike.
It sounds like you have the right idea to me and you should not need any more switches, etc. |
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My plasma is High Def.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Longmont, Colorado
Posts: 5
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Thank you for the response.
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What is HD?
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1
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I got my DTV hooked up over the weekend. Well then I got my cable internet hooked up today. What I found out is that I can have both. I rent so running a new line and drilling wasn't an option. So I said go ahead and do the cable internet thinking that I could just split the signal from the other room (I have receivers in 3 rooms). As you can see I know very little about this and found out it's not that simple.
So I've been doing some reading and I think I need a mulitswitch(?) and not a diplexer. My question is...so is that the easiest way to split my signal? I read this thread and a few others on it and it seems to be the case. From what I've read I'll have to run the cables from the LNB to the multiswitch and then to the two receivers. Is there no way to split from the cable that's coming out of the wall in one of the other rooms? Is there a way to split the signal from the receiver to the other receiver? Thanks for any help! |
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#27 |
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What is HD?
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1
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I have 1 HD recievers, 3 tivos and 2 reg D*tv boxes. I just brought a new HD receiver (H10) and I want to
connect it in the same room as one of the Tivos. I have LNB3 and a powered Multi switch which D*tv installed. How can I split the signal coming from the multiswitich to that Tivo so I can hook up the HD and the Tivo in the same Room?
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#28 |
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My plasma is High Def.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8
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I am wondering if a 5x8 multiswitch will help solve my problems without running 4 lines from my dish to the multiswitch.
Here is my situation: Before: 2 LMB Dish with 2 lines running to a 3x4 multiswitch in the basement which distribute all the lines 2 Lines run to a DirecTV Tivo in family room 1 Line runs to a standard Sony DirecTV Receiver in bedroom 1 Line runs to a standard Sony DirecTV Receiver in basement Now: Replaced old dish with an Oval 3 LMB dish with 2 lines running to the 3x4 multiswitch in the basement which distribute all the lines (I am running the lines out of connections 1 & 2 from the dish to the 3x4 multiswitch) 2 Lines run to a DirecTV Tivo in family room 1 Line runs to a standard Sony DirecTV Receiver in bedroom 1 Line runs to an HD Samsung DirecTV Receiver in basement (replaced standard DirecTV Receiver in basement) I receive my local HD channels through an RCA antenna connected directly to the Samsung HD Receiver I know the dish is capable of sending 4 lines but adding the extra 2 from the dish to the multiswitch is going to be a major headache. I am running into problems between the TVs. When I watch an DirecTV HD channel on the Samsung, it cuts out the picture on my DirecTV Tivo (no signal is received by the DirecTV Tivo). When I watch a regular DirecTV channel or an HD channel through on Off Air antenna, there are no issues with the other TVs. Ideally, I would have 4 lines coming from my dish running directly through to the 4 receivers without any type of Multiswitch. Again adding those 2 additional lines is going to be a major headache. And now to my question: I want to try and swap the 3x4 multiswitch for a 5x8 multiswitch to see if magically solves my problems (still with only 2 lines running to from my dish to the multiswitch). I'm not sure why, but I wonder if a 5x8 multiswitch would distribute the signals any better than the 3x4? Is there a different configuration that may work with only 2 lines from the dish? Is this even possible? |
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How can anyone watch standard def?
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 23
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Please I need help with this set up (multiple TV s hook up to get sat (DirecTV) and ota signals); how to split 1 standard Sat and OTA signals to more TVs using multiswitch/diplexer/splitter and using 1 coaxial per room (except the room where the satellite receiver is located). I have: room 1 with satellite receiver and TV 1
room 2 TV 2 room 3 TV 3 room 4 TV 4 room 5 TV 5 From room 1 I need to run a cable out on the roof and to split from there both sat and ota to room 2, 3, 4 and 5. Is that possible? Being novice at this I thought that from both antennas 2 cables would go to sat receiver: ota will go in sat receiver ota input, LDB signal to sat input and from the output of the sat receiver will run one cable to the roof where I will split the signal to room 2, 3, 4 and 5. I read that this set up has limitations because on TV 2, 3 4 and 5, I will not be able to get ota when the satellite receiver is on. It was suggested to use multiswitch to combine sat and ota, run to sat receiver, diplex the signal before the sat rec input and from the sat receiver output split to room 2, 3 4, 5. This set up seems to me simillar with my first example; how come that with this setup I will be able to have ota signal in room 2, 3, 4, 5 even when the sat receiver is on? Or I have to use again diplexers before tv 2, 3 , 4 and 5? Totally confused. Thank you so much.l Mark Last edited by mark22; 03-10-2005 at 07:51 AM. |
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What is HD?
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Age: 64
Posts: 1
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Is it correct to assume that a second dish would accomplish multiple hook-ups with no loss of signal? I was thinking of addiing a second dish of 30" diameter to gain best signal for HDTV. My plans would be to use 30" dish with two lines each to two HD DVR's. This way I can use original dish for two standard Tivo's. Is this the best setup with the equipment described?
Thanks, Robert
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