difference between dolby 5.1 and dts

hawkal · 11-29-2005, 08:33 AM

What is the difference between the two
Thanks!

inazsully · 11-29-2005, 10:00 AM

Not a big difference. When reviewers compare the two sound tracks, which are both available on some movies, they usually prefer the DTS slightly. It tends to be a bit more pronounced in its sound reproduction. You must have a DTS decoder to listen to DTS where as 5.1 will play on any set up and when both are available the DVD will automatically play 5.1. DTS must be selected from the DVD's menu.

leevitalone · 11-29-2005, 04:51 PM

Good ? the previuos answer from inazsully is correct, what the poster failed to tell you is DTS offers more information to the surround channels, and is very pronounced. Lots of music artists use this format over DD due to that fact.
http://www.dtsonline.com/entertainment/surround/
This will describe in detail what you seek.

BrianO · 11-29-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inazsully

You must have a DTS decoder to listen to DTS where as 5.1 will play on any set up and when both are available the DVD will automatically play 5.1. DTS must be selected from the DVD's menu.

You must have a decoder for Dolby Digital as well. Fortunately most, if not all, equipment (DVD players, multichannel receivers, ATSC tuners, etc.) has a built-in Dolby Digital decoder, so you don't need a separate standalone DD decoder.

Better equipment also contains a DTS decoder, thereby eliiminating the need for a separate standalone DTS decoder. My Panasonic DVD player has both DD and DTS dedoders. So does my Sony receiver.

My JVC DVD player has a DD decoder but lacks a DTS one. This player can only play DTS soundtracks by passing the audio through an external DTS decoder. Before I bought the Panasonic DVD player I played DTS soundtracks through my Sony receiver.

tec319 · 11-29-2005, 07:48 PM

Just my 2 cents , but my ears notice a BIG difference. DTS is much better.

kelrhon · 11-29-2005, 08:20 PM

Yes.........DTS is way better.......better than THX......the BEST! That is one of the first things I look for when I buy a DVD and am disappointed when they do not offer it. Disney's Pirates of the Carribean (spelling) in DTS is one of the best I have ever heard........

masmith · 11-30-2005, 12:08 AM

I don't know of any digital sound receivers that don't decode DTS that were built in the last 3-4 years.

It does not matter at all that the DVD player doesn't decode unless you are running the DVD straight to your speakers, or through an amp!

tim1970 · 11-30-2005, 08:53 AM

Another great DTS movie that I use to impress my friends is U-571. One of the best sounding movies ever.

Tim

Beastslayer1 · 11-30-2005, 09:54 AM

kelrhon... Do not confuse THX as a surround sound format. THX is not a Surround Sound format such as DTS, Dolby Digital, etc. THX is a certifing standard for surround sound. That is why you see THX certified amps, recievers, cables, seating, wall materials, screen size/dimensions...theaters. There are also various THX standards as well.

I also agree that DTS is a superior format than Dolby Digital.

**rbinck** · 11-30-2005, 10:01 AM

For a history on surround and additional information check out: Let's Talk Surround

kelrhon · 11-30-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastslayer1

kelrhon... Do not confuse THX as a surround sound format. THX is not a Surround Sound format such as DTS, Dolby Digital, etc. THX is a certifing standard for surround sound. That is why you see THX certified amps, recievers, cables, seating, wall materials, screen size/dimensions...theaters. There are also various THX standards as well.

I also agree that DTS is a superior format than Dolby Digital.

I am not confused about it.........but you will not see any THX movies in DTS format..........

BrianO · 12-01-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelrhon

I am not confused about it.........but you will not see any THX movies in DTS format..........

You will if you look harder.

dvdreview.com has a partial list of THX certified DVD's which includes a number with DTS soundtracks.

probie · 12-01-2005, 10:23 AM

My Dennon Receiver also distinguishes between two levels of DTS. Those two levels being discreet and matrix. Discreet being the higher quality and least available. I see a diference even between those two.
DTS in my opinion is much higher quality.
Especially when lisitening to the Eagles "When Hell Freezes Over" DVD.

leevitalone · 12-03-2005, 05:48 PM

THX is an eq setting that must fir lucasfilms criteria, speakers, amps, room, etc. has 0 to do with audio formats. no you will not see THX in DTS as it is associated with DD.

Wiley · 12-06-2005, 09:48 PM

As if DD and DTS weren't enough, this discription (taken from TimeForDVD.com) might further the issue.

" Dolby Digital EX™, THX Surround EX™ & DTS Extended Surround™ (DTS-ES™)

Just when you thought 5.1-channel Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound were enough, at the leading edge today are two new "Extended Surround" formats, namely THX Surround EX™ and DTS Extended Surround™ (or DTS-ES™ for short).

The THX Surround EX format is jointly developed by Lucasfilm THX and Dolby Laboratories, and is the home theater version of "Dolby Digital Surround EX™", an Extended Surround sound format used by state-of-the-art movie theaters. Lucasfilm THX licenses the THX Surround EX format for use in receivers and preamplifiers. And as of November 2001, Dolby Laboratories has begun to license what is THX Surround EX under its own name, Dolby Digital EX™, for consumer home theater equipment. (Since THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX are equivalent, we will refer to THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX interchangeably, with preference for the former since that name has been around longer.)

THX Surround EX is the Extended Surround version of Dolby Digital 5.1, while DTS-ES is that of DTS 5.1. The difference between the new Extended Surround formats and their 5.1-channel surround sound counterparts is the addition of a surround back channel, whose corresponding speaker is placed behind the audience. This allows certain soundtrack effects to be presented behind the audience, thereby achieving more enveloping and complete 360° surround sound. (Remember that in the 5.1-channel surround sound formats, the surround speakers are placed one on each side of the audience - not behind them.) Additionally, while the Extended Surround sound format calls for one surround back channel, two surround back speakers are generally recommended for better envelopment. Acknowledging this widely accepted industry position, some high-end receiver manufacturers have introduced "7.1-channel" capable receivers, with decoding and sometimes amplification for the two extra surround back channels.

Both THX Surround EX and DTS-ES Matrix surround sound encode the surround back channel information into the surround left and surround right channels (similar to the way the center channel is encoded for Dolby Surround Pro-Logic). This cross-channel encoding is referred to as matrix encoding, since the surround back channel is encoded and later decoded (or derived) from those of the surround left and surround right channels. Because of this matrix encoding scheme, the surround back channel is not a true discrete channel and is technically considered a 5.1- channel format. And for this reason, they are sometimes referred to as "Dolby Digital 5.1 EX" or "DTS 5.1 ES". To refer to these matrix encoded Extended Surround formats as 6.1-channel would be wrong. (When we use quotes, as in the "7.1-channel" reference above, we are recognizing that it may not be a true discrete 7.1-channel system.) "

Maybe that will help clear up the differences
Wiley

11-29-2005, 08:33 AM	#1
hawkal love HD! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 20	difference between dolby 5.1 and dts What is the difference between the two Thanks!

11-30-2005, 10:01 AM	#10
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 12,335	For a history on surround and additional information check out: Let's Talk Surround __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

12-01-2005, 10:23 AM	#13
probie What is HD? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2	DTS Discreet vs. Matrix My Dennon Receiver also distinguishes between two levels of DTS. Those two levels being discreet and matrix. Discreet being the higher quality and least available. I see a diference even between those two. DTS in my opinion is much higher quality. Especially when lisitening to the Eagles "When Hell Freezes Over" DVD. __________________ Samsung HLP5685WX/XAA Denon AVR 4802 Receiver Denon DVD 2910 Denon DP-29F Phono Canton CD100 FL/C/FR Speakers Infinity HTS 10SUB SW Infinity HTS SAT LS/SB/RS HR10-250 HDTV/Tivo Sony SLV-M11HF Panamax MAX 1000+ Surge Protector XBox

12-06-2005, 09:48 PM	#15
Wiley High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 269	THX Surround EX, DTS-ES As if DD and DTS weren't enough, this discription (taken from TimeForDVD.com) might further the issue. " Dolby Digital EX™, THX Surround EX™ & DTS Extended Surround™ (DTS-ES™) Just when you thought 5.1-channel Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound were enough, at the leading edge today are two new "Extended Surround" formats, namely THX Surround EX™ and DTS Extended Surround™ (or DTS-ES™ for short). The THX Surround EX format is jointly developed by Lucasfilm THX and Dolby Laboratories, and is the home theater version of "Dolby Digital Surround EX™", an Extended Surround sound format used by state-of-the-art movie theaters. Lucasfilm THX licenses the THX Surround EX format for use in receivers and preamplifiers. And as of November 2001, Dolby Laboratories has begun to license what is THX Surround EX under its own name, Dolby Digital EX™, for consumer home theater equipment. (Since THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX are equivalent, we will refer to THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX interchangeably, with preference for the former since that name has been around longer.) THX Surround EX is the Extended Surround version of Dolby Digital 5.1, while DTS-ES is that of DTS 5.1. The difference between the new Extended Surround formats and their 5.1-channel surround sound counterparts is the addition of a surround back channel, whose corresponding speaker is placed behind the audience. This allows certain soundtrack effects to be presented behind the audience, thereby achieving more enveloping and complete 360° surround sound. (Remember that in the 5.1-channel surround sound formats, the surround speakers are placed one on each side of the audience - not behind them.) Additionally, while the Extended Surround sound format calls for one surround back channel, two surround back speakers are generally recommended for better envelopment. Acknowledging this widely accepted industry position, some high-end receiver manufacturers have introduced "7.1-channel" capable receivers, with decoding and sometimes amplification for the two extra surround back channels. Both THX Surround EX and DTS-ES Matrix surround sound encode the surround back channel information into the surround left and surround right channels (similar to the way the center channel is encoded for Dolby Surround Pro-Logic). This cross-channel encoding is referred to as matrix encoding, since the surround back channel is encoded and later decoded (or derived) from those of the surround left and surround right channels. Because of this matrix encoding scheme, the surround back channel is not a true discrete channel and is technically considered a 5.1- channel format. And for this reason, they are sometimes referred to as "Dolby Digital 5.1 EX" or "DTS 5.1 ES". To refer to these matrix encoded Extended Surround formats as 6.1-channel would be wrong. (When we use quotes, as in the "7.1-channel" reference above, we are recognizing that it may not be a true discrete 7.1-channel system.) " Maybe that will help clear up the differences Wiley

11-29-2005, 10:00 AM	#2
inazsully High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 616	Not a big difference. When reviewers compare the two sound tracks, which are both available on some movies, they usually prefer the DTS slightly. It tends to be a bit more pronounced in its sound reproduction. You must have a DTS decoder to listen to DTS where as 5.1 will play on any set up and when both are available the DVD will automatically play 5.1. DTS must be selected from the DVD's menu.

11-29-2005, 04:51 PM	#3
leevitalone dirty boy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Posts: 752	Good ? the previuos answer from inazsully is correct, what the poster failed to tell you is DTS offers more information to the surround channels, and is very pronounced. Lots of music artists use this format over DD due to that fact. http://www.dtsonline.com/entertainment/surround/ This will describe in detail what you seek.

11-29-2005, 07:48 PM	#5
tec319 Cable LOL!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 93	Just my 2 cents , but my ears notice a BIG difference. DTS is much better.

11-29-2005, 08:20 PM	#6
kelrhon kelrhon Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Age: 43 Posts: 123	Yes.........DTS is way better.......better than THX......the BEST! That is one of the first things I look for when I buy a DVD and am disappointed when they do not offer it. Disney's Pirates of the Carribean (spelling) in DTS is one of the best I have ever heard........

11-30-2005, 12:08 AM	#7
masmith High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 59	I don't know of any digital sound receivers that don't decode DTS that were built in the last 3-4 years. It does not matter at all that the DVD player doesn't decode unless you are running the DVD straight to your speakers, or through an amp!

11-30-2005, 08:53 AM	#8
tim1970 How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Another great DTS movie that I use to impress my friends is U-571. One of the best sounding movies ever. Tim

11-30-2005, 09:54 AM	#9
Beastslayer1 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 270	kelrhon... Do not confuse THX as a surround sound format. THX is not a Surround Sound format such as DTS, Dolby Digital, etc. THX is a certifing standard for surround sound. That is why you see THX certified amps, recievers, cables, seating, wall materials, screen size/dimensions...theaters. There are also various THX standards as well. I also agree that DTS is a superior format than Dolby Digital.

12-03-2005, 05:48 PM	#14
leevitalone dirty boy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Posts: 752	THX is an eq setting that must fir lucasfilms criteria, speakers, amps, room, etc. has 0 to do with audio formats. no you will not see THX in DTS as it is associated with DD.