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Old 01-31-2005, 01:36 PM   #61
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Raveon,

Thanks for the reply. Your earlier message stated you were using a brightness of 26, which is one of the reasons I got so concerned since mine is almost twice as high. Do you also find that the brightness/black levels change slightly depending on how much bright stuff is in the frame? The DVE dvd talks about this being a problem with some equipement, and I do indeed see a huge change in their grey level pluges on the calibration pattern that alternates between black and white backgrounds. For example, if a program goes from a shot where the images is made up of mostly midtones & darks, then the camera pans to reveal a patch of bright sunny sky...the overall brightness/contrast of the screen seems to change. Darker areas get pushed into blacks. Make sense? My Sony HD and previous standard def panasonic do NOT exhibit this problem.


I would really like to avoid going to buy another unit if possible, espeically if the chances are the replacment would behave the same way. Too bad they are so hard to find in stock locally.
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:18 PM   #62
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when I go to progressive scan on the DVD player the picture becomes brighter...

I prefer interlaced and need to run about 53 bright for that....

HD via HDMI needed more bright too about 53 or 4 I think...

These variances in the numbers are the reason that each set needs to be calibrated in it's own right... setting numbers are not universally interchangable.... find what works for your own set....
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:36 PM   #63
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HDCowby,

Do your settings go from 0-100? Mine go to 50, so that's one reason I find a brightness of 47 a little excessive for a properly working set.

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when I go to progressive scan on the DVD player the picture becomes brighter...

I prefer interlaced and need to run about 53 bright for that....

HD via HDMI needed more bright too about 53 or 4 I think...

These variances in the numbers are the reason that each set needs to be calibrated in it's own right... setting numbers are not universally interchangable.... find what works for your own set....
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Old 02-01-2005, 02:55 PM   #64
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I've been looking for some exact measurements for the width and height of the 34HFX84. I've gotten some slightly different values off the net (i.e. width = 32", 33 1/2", 33 5/8", 33 9/16", etc.) With these numbers I think it will be a very tight fit, so I'm hoping it isn't much (any!) wider. I am a little nervous because the Toshiba site says that the measurements are subject to change and may not be accurate and that you should double check them on an actual set. In addition I read somewhere that the 34HF84 was actually 34.25" vs. the advertized 33.7", yikes! I'm hoping this isn't the case with the 34HFX84

So I was wondering if someone who actually owns the set, or has access to one, would be kind enough to measure it and let me know what the "real" meausements are. I would do it myself, but the only one I've found is on crutchfield.com. I'd prefer not to have one delivered and then find out it is too big for my entertainment center.

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Old 02-01-2005, 06:51 PM   #65
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MFG,

I just measured mine and it was 33 1/2 at the widest point. Good luck I know this is the only TV that would fit in my entertainment ctr. Just got mine and love it. Great TV

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Old 02-01-2005, 09:08 PM   #66
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patsfan-

Thanks a lot. Now I'm pretty sure I can fit it in my entertainment center. Still a tight fit though. I'm actually going to need to build a 3 1/2" stand to lift the TV so that it fits vertically between the hinges on the pocket doors on either side. I think I'll need to be able to slide the TV from side to side 1/4" to close the doors Hopefully the TV will be worth all the effort!

Out of curiosity where did you get your HFX84? And how much did you pay? I'm thinking about going through crutchfield @ $1599.

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I just measured mine and it was 33 1/2 at the widest point. Good luck I know this is the only TV that would fit in my entertainment ctr. Just got mine and love it. Great TV

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Old 02-01-2005, 09:21 PM   #67
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HDCowby,

Do your settings go from 0-100? Mine go to 50, so that's one reason I find a brightness of 47 a little excessive for a properly working set.

thanks,
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0-100 that's right... but try to think of the number as eroneous... it's only a reference and doesn't mean anything.... not really....

For example.... OOTB ( out of the box ) I had to adjust the setting for tilt correction to -7... bad right? not really... a little more learning for me then on to the service menu where I adjusted the value for the GMF setting and ... lookee thar.... tilt setting on the user menu is now back to "0"... does that mean that the -7 went away? NOPE... just hid it by changing the set point value in the service menu... now I have tilt correction available on both sides of zero...

Point of all of that drivel is that if you couldn't lower the brightness anymore or couldn't raise it... you were at "100" bright let's say... then you would need to work from the service menu to give you room to increase brightness from the user menu.... The whole thing is really quite relative.... any time any one posts there settings it's just a reference... a starting point AND more importantly it's what's working for them on their set

G'day....
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:53 PM   #68
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Can someone do me a big favor. I'm thinking about a HXF to fit on a corner cabinet. Width at the front is no problem but can someone measure the width at the back (not the depth). Thanks
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Old 02-02-2005, 05:09 PM   #69
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Exchanged it for another set yesterday. The new one looks MUCH better. So, it appears I did have a bad unit after all.

thanks for all the help
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:08 PM   #70
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Glad to here it will fit. I know I went through the same thing but still have a couple of inches to spare.

I actually got mine through Crutchfield. I was suppose to get it cheaper but it didn't work out. I ordered mine on a Wednesday and it was delivered on the following Tuesday. That's from Virginia to outside of Boston. Not bad. They tend to be expensive but not to many companies sell it. I do recommend Crutchfield though. Let me toss this out there. If you see it cheaper somewhere else let them know. I didn't pay full price.

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Old 02-05-2005, 08:24 PM   #71
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After mulling through all of the reviews for awhile, and finally getting my Toshiba 30HF84 today I decided to post my early imprressions.
This set is superb. I was gettting a little concerned with all of the negative reviews being posted on issues. The set I got has a mfg date of December 2004. This set appears to have no problems currently. What a great picture!!!
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:53 AM   #72
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I have been an 34hf84 owner since mid November and have generally been delighted with the performance. I have not yet adjusted the picture with either of the available diagnostic DVDs but will soon - I am currently using adjustment levels posted by someone else elswhere.....

I am surprised and a bit concerned that reviews of the performance of this set seem to be inconsistant;

http://www.hometheatermag.com/direct...vs/105toshiba/

"Perfect color and an amazing black level—in other words, everything you'd expect from a CRT. "

This one which I read yesterday gives it a glowing report but Consumer Reports, in the current issue, place it well down the field behind three Sonys and rate the picture as below average. My feeling is that CR may well be good at auto and refridgerator tests but I wonder if they really know the right way to set up TVs in front of their viewing panel?

Incidentally, the Home Theater Mag gives a useful tip to reduce the SVM (which is not switchable on the HF, only the HFX) by using the Movie settings as a basis for saving to Preferences.
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I have been an 34hf84 owner since mid November and have generally been delighted with the performance. I have not yet adjusted the picture with either of the available diagnostic DVDs but will soon - I am currently using adjustment levels posted by someone else elswhere.....

I am surprised and a bit concerned that reviews of the performance of this set seem to be inconsistant;

http://www.hometheatermag.com/direct...vs/105toshiba/

"Perfect color and an amazing black level—in other words, everything you'd expect from a CRT. "

This one which I read yesterday gives it a glowing report but Consumer Reports, in the current issue, place it well down the field behind three Sonys and rate the picture as below average. My feeling is that CR may well be good at auto and refridgerator tests but I wonder if they really know the right way to set up TVs in front of their viewing panel?

Incidentally, the Home Theater Mag gives a useful tip to reduce the SVM (which is not switchable on the HF, only the HFX) by using the Movie settings as a basis for saving to Preferences.
People perhaps should read Consumer Reports but never just Consumer Reports. They very well may have not had the set(s) adjusted optimally, and let's face it: their appraisal of what a "quality" picture entails might be subjective and open to discussion.

As for refrigerators (and other appliances), their recommendations should be viewed with scrutiny. We bought our Whirlpool refrigerator based largely on a good CR ranking. They neglected to pay attention, however, to the breakage-prone shelving on the inside of the doors, a design flaw that has cost us at least $100 over the years in replacement parts. Whoops.

And as for cars: back in 1974 I shopped for my first new auto. Consumer Reports recommendations would have steered me to a cute little Fiat 128, which they LOVED. This turned out to be a short-lived, troublesome car that disappeared from the roads in a few years. The little Datsun subcompact I ended up with, which they rated fairly poorly, proved reliable and easy to service, and it is still in our family today, thirty years later.

And don't even get me started on their fairly idiosyncratic approach to rating cameras and lenses .
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:47 PM   #74
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I have another measurement question for you (or anyone else reading this). From a top or side view how much of the set is at 33 1/2"? Does it start to taper down immediately, or is the majority of the set 33 1/2" wide?

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I just measured mine and it was 33 1/2 at the widest point. Good luck I know this is the only TV that would fit in my entertainment ctr. Just got mine and love it. Great TV

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Old 02-09-2005, 04:55 PM   #75
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The majority of the set is 33 1/2. I took it from the top and bottom of the TV.

Later
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