Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR Video Capture device

**rbinck** · 10-22-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pmbtv

thanks, rbinck. i may use an N wireless connection as an adapter or bridge, much like my former tivo adapter to transfer content from the tivo to the tivo desktop program on my PC. otherwise, i'll probably have to go the more expensive route of buying a laptop.

If you go with a laptop, be sure it will support HDTV video. Many don't. I'd try to hook it up to my HDTV as well. My son has a Sony that just won't work on his HDTV, but works fine on mine. Probably has more to do with the HDTVs, but it really does not matter if they don't work together. The ASUS player will work with any HDTV with a HDMI input. Much safer.

pmbtv · 11-07-2010, 11:53 AM

following up on my previous posts: my desktop pc is 38 feet away from my A-V rack. i'd rather not buy another pc but will if i must. first though, how reliable is a long-run of usb 2.0 cable for hidef video transmitting from dish vip722 dvr through hauppauge 1212 to pc? not many posts on this. a few say ok or probably ok & a few say not very reliable. thanks for any suggestions out there.

**rbinck** · 11-07-2010, 01:37 PM

That is too long for USB. Now you may be able to put POWERED USB hubs in the line to keep each run to less than 16 feet. These need to be powered by a supply not from the USB cable.

Another idea would be to run the component video to the 1212. Either component cables or via cat5e using baluns.

pmbtv · 11-07-2010, 03:53 PM

[quote=rbinck;1109969]That is too long for USB. Now you may be able to put POWERED USB hubs in the line to keep each run to less than 16 feet. These need to be powered by a supply not from the USB cable.

thanks, as i feared. looks like i'll have to spring for a laptop.

**rbinck** · 11-07-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmbtv

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

That is too long for USB. Now you may be able to put POWERED USB hubs in the line to keep each run to less than 16 feet. These need to be powered by a supply not from the USB cable.

thanks, as i feared. looks like i'll have to spring for a laptop.

You must have posted before I added the last part. That would be a lot less expensive than a laptop, but a laptop is not a bad go either.

Keenan · 02-21-2011, 10:31 PM

Seriously considering buying the Hauppauge 1212 and just wanted to know if it is possible to record my laptop's screen using a usb-to-component-cable to connect to the 1212's Compnent Video Loop in?

**rbinck** · 02-22-2011, 06:06 AM

I don't know of any USB to component cable that will output the screen, maybe you could supply a link?

If your laptop has a VGA output, you could get a VGA to component transcoder and record the laptop screen if your laptop will output HDTV resolutions. If the laptop will not output HDTV resolutions then you could use the composite or s-video outputs (most laptops have one of these) and hook up to the front 1212 connections to record the screen. Just won't be in HD though.

Keenan · 02-22-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rbinck

I don't know of any USB to component cable that will output the screen, maybe you could supply a link?

If your laptop has a VGA output, you could get a VGA to component transcoder and record the laptop screen if your laptop will output HDTV resolutions. If the laptop will not output HDTV resolutions then you could use the composite or s-video outputs (most laptops have one of these) and hook up to the front 1212 connections to record the screen. Just won't be in HD though.

First I must say I am impressed ,rbinck, with the speed with which you replied! Thank you.

My laptop (Dell Studio 1588) was purchased to deal with my photo shoots. I was, therefore, not thinking of using it for handling video. As such it does not have either VGA or S-Video outputs. It does have HDMI, which begs the question: is there a HDMI to Component cable?

One more request for help deals with your reference to supplying a "link". What do you mean by "link"? Sorry for my apparent lack of computer know how.

Thanks again for your help and I look forward to reading your reply.

**rbinck** · 02-22-2011, 08:50 AM

No there is not a HDMI to component cable as HDMI is digital video and component is analog video.

You need one of these:
Click here: HDMI to 5 RCA component AV Converter by CT

A link is like what I put above where you click on it and it will take you to another webpage.

The HDMI to component cables are specialty cables made for particular devices that will support both HDMI and component video. Unless your computer will support component video out of the HDMI port they wont work for you.

7zxzasa7 · 03-08-2011, 09:16 AM

well, try to record screen video with www_macvide_com/Macvide_screencap/

**rbinck** · 03-08-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 7zxzasa7

well, try to record screen video with www_macvide_com/Macvide_screencap/

Not the same application at all. Not trying to record computer video, but high definition video from a DVR or receiver.

lecapitan · 08-29-2011, 02:11 AM

Hey everyone. This is the closest thing I could find to a Hauppauge HD PVR forum, and I just want to share some information and see if anyone else is having the same problems.

Hauppauge released a new driver for the HD PVR recently, v1.6.29207. It fixes a bunch of stability issues I had before with the unit, but it seems to have introduced problems with the files the PVR generates. I previously had v1.5.7.0 and use Sony Vegas / Adobe Premiere to edit my recorded videos. The previous driver creates files that Sony Vegas / Adobe Premiere have no problems with. The new driver creates files that Sony Vegas can't even open, and Adobe Premiere has trouble seeking through.

I've tried all the file output formats, but I'm pretty sure they're just different containers. It seems the video track is being generated incorrectly. Using VBR instead of CBR seems to make a difference, but the file is still pretty much uneditable in Vegas/Premiere.

For now I've gone back to v1.5.7.0. Unfortunately I already recorded a ton of videos using the new driver, and now I can't edit the video ;_;. I've tested remuxing the video and audio tracks with tsRemux, just to see if it would fix the video, to no avail. I really don't want to reencode the video, but I'm down to the last option.

The weird thing is the files with the new driver and old driver appear to be 100% exactly the same when I open them in MediaInfo. All the video parameters are the same for my old videos and these new videos (bonus fact: setting CBR in the TotalMediaExtreme program still generates VBR video, just higher bitrate, who knew). My guess is there's a bug in the way the video is being encoded in the newer drivers, but there's no way I know of to see if there's a discernible difference in the files.

Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

**rbinck** · 08-30-2011, 10:36 PM

I use videoredo v4 with h.264. It will convert to just about every format.

NickTheSlick · 09-17-2011, 02:27 PM

I have a non 1080p resolution t.v. It can only support 720p. I also do not have a "component" option on my t.v. Can I still record video game gameplay or no?

salience · 10-01-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rbinck

I use videoredo v4 with h.264. It will convert to just about every format.

That's definitely the one to use, it's the only one I've tried that works like it should. I recorded a 720 program from satellite in mp4 and VideoRedo easily allowed removal of unwanted segments at the beginning, end, and a commercial in the middle. Editing controls are well thought-out and very complete. In my recording, since the output was also mp4 the time required to produce the cleaned-up mp4 was only a few minutes. Important for me as I'm still using Pentium 4 / ASUS P4C machines!

Has there been any discussion or conclusions about quality versus vbr/cbr and bitrates for the three recording options (.ts .m2ts .mp4) and resolution (720 vx 1080)? As my title indicates, I'm just starting out with this PVR but so far, I prefer making the recording in mp4 container directly since I can watch mp4 files directly on my NetGear NeoTV. Been using 7-8 bitrate cbr so far for 720. I assume a higher bitrate would be appropriate for 1080?

11-07-2010, 01:37 PM	#138
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,601	That is too long for USB. Now you may be able to put POWERED USB hubs in the line to keep each run to less than 16 feet. These need to be powered by a supply not from the USB cable. Another idea would be to run the component video to the 1212. Either component cables or via cat5e using baluns. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

11-07-2010, 03:53 PM	#139
pmbtv A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 13	long usb cable runs [quote=rbinck;1109969]That is too long for USB. Now you may be able to put POWERED USB hubs in the line to keep each run to less than 16 feet. These need to be powered by a supply not from the USB cable. thanks, as i feared. looks like i'll have to spring for a laptop.

02-21-2011, 10:31 PM	#141
Keenan What is HD? Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2	Record Computer Screen through 1212 hd pvr Seriously considering buying the Hauppauge 1212 and just wanted to know if it is possible to record my laptop's screen using a usb-to-component-cable to connect to the 1212's Compnent Video Loop in?

02-22-2011, 06:06 AM	#142
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,601	I don't know of any USB to component cable that will output the screen, maybe you could supply a link? If your laptop has a VGA output, you could get a VGA to component transcoder and record the laptop screen if your laptop will output HDTV resolutions. If the laptop will not output HDTV resolutions then you could use the composite or s-video outputs (most laptops have one of these) and hook up to the front 1212 connections to record the screen. Just won't be in HD though. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

02-22-2011, 08:50 AM	#144
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,601	No there is not a HDMI to component cable as HDMI is digital video and component is analog video. You need one of these: Click here: HDMI to 5 RCA component AV Converter by CT A link is like what I put above where you click on it and it will take you to another webpage. The HDMI to component cables are specialty cables made for particular devices that will support both HDMI and component video. Unless your computer will support component video out of the HDMI port they wont work for you. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com Last edited by rbinck; 02-22-2011 at 08:53 AM.

11-07-2010, 11:53 AM	#137
pmbtv A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 13	following up on my previous posts: my desktop pc is 38 feet away from my A-V rack. i'd rather not buy another pc but will if i must. first though, how reliable is a long-run of usb 2.0 cable for hidef video transmitting from dish vip722 dvr through hauppauge 1212 to pc? not many posts on this. a few say ok or probably ok & a few say not very reliable. thanks for any suggestions out there.

03-08-2011, 09:16 AM	#145
7zxzasa7 What is HD? Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1	well, try to record screen video with www_macvide_com/Macvide_screencap/

08-29-2011, 02:11 AM	#147
lecapitan What is HD? Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1	Hey everyone. This is the closest thing I could find to a Hauppauge HD PVR forum, and I just want to share some information and see if anyone else is having the same problems. Hauppauge released a new driver for the HD PVR recently, v1.6.29207. It fixes a bunch of stability issues I had before with the unit, but it seems to have introduced problems with the files the PVR generates. I previously had v1.5.7.0 and use Sony Vegas / Adobe Premiere to edit my recorded videos. The previous driver creates files that Sony Vegas / Adobe Premiere have no problems with. The new driver creates files that Sony Vegas can't even open, and Adobe Premiere has trouble seeking through. I've tried all the file output formats, but I'm pretty sure they're just different containers. It seems the video track is being generated incorrectly. Using VBR instead of CBR seems to make a difference, but the file is still pretty much uneditable in Vegas/Premiere. For now I've gone back to v1.5.7.0. Unfortunately I already recorded a ton of videos using the new driver, and now I can't edit the video ;_;. I've tested remuxing the video and audio tracks with tsRemux, just to see if it would fix the video, to no avail. I really don't want to reencode the video, but I'm down to the last option. The weird thing is the files with the new driver and old driver appear to be 100% exactly the same when I open them in MediaInfo. All the video parameters are the same for my old videos and these new videos (bonus fact: setting CBR in the TotalMediaExtreme program still generates VBR video, just higher bitrate, who knew). My guess is there's a bug in the way the video is being encoded in the newer drivers, but there's no way I know of to see if there's a discernible difference in the files. Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

08-30-2011, 10:36 PM	#148
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,601	I use videoredo v4 with h.264. It will convert to just about every format. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

09-17-2011, 02:27 PM	#149
NickTheSlick What is HD? Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1	I have a non 1080p resolution t.v. It can only support 720p. I also do not have a "component" option on my t.v. Can I still record video game gameplay or no?

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