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Old 06-16-2017, 12:45 AM   #13426
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1966 Sunbeam Tiger MK1A: 260 CID V8 4-Speed Manual









Many people then and today consider the Sunbeam Tiger to be "a poor man's Cobra." Though the car only weighed 2,565 lbs (Curb Weight) the Ford 260 V8 only had a 2-V carb and made 164 HP. It wasn't until the 1967 MKII that Sunbeam switched over to a 289 2V/200 HP V8 because Ford stopped production of the 260 V8 at the end of the 1964 model year. I guess Ford must have continued making and selling the 260 to Sunbeam for 2 more years.

Just as a comparison, the 1966 289 AC Cobra weighed 2,315 lbs (CW) and had 271 HP.

By putting first the 260 then the 289 the Sunbeam was no longer competing with MGs and Triumphs, but rather Jaguars and Corvettes, and for a lot less money: $3500.

Oh . . . BTW . . . Rootes Group America hired Carroll Shelby (for $10,000 and a commission on each car sold) to engineer the fitting of the Ford 260 V8 into the Sunbeam Alpine. Problem solved . . . a little hammering on the firewall made it fit.


So what about that 107 HP difference between the Tiger and the Cobra? No problem . . . just go to your local Ford dealer and order the 2X4 Kit. That will put you half way there:



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One of those cars that shouldn't exist: 1967 Hemi Belvedere


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One of those cars that shouldn't exist: 1967 Hemi Belvedere




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Old 06-16-2017, 03:29 PM   #13431
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Pontiac contracted with Paul Lamar (Lamar Engineering) with assistance from Herb Adams to build a 1972 Mid Engine Firebird to see how it compared to normal car






http://www.rotaryeng.net/Mid-engine-Firebird.pdf
Awesome find, Lee!

Not to nit-pick, but it's actually a 1971 Firebird Formula, not a 1972 as the article states. Great photos though, I've only seen a couple pics of this car, but the ones you posted were new to me!

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Old 06-17-2017, 03:13 PM   #13434
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Yep - Chevrolet (IMO) also had some "sissy" colors and this is one of them: Butternut Yellow
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:19 PM   #13435
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This is a 9,500 mile original, unrestored 1969 L78 Camaro SS 396. Looks like the right rear muffler clamp needs to be replaced. The muffler/chambered pipe shouldn't hang down like that
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:46 PM   #13436
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I guess that's why I only found this one 1971 Challenger with the V6J Lime stripes - they were cancelled 12/70.

Did not know that the Hemi was no longer available in the Challenger R/T with an automatic as of 12/70. That would account for the only 12 built (plus 59 4 speeds). By making A33 mandatory that raised the price of the Hemi option ($789.95) by $137.50 but you did get the Dana 60 3.54 Posi rear.




Same letter - Page 2. The Charger R/T and the Charger Super Bee with either the 440+6 or the Hemi came standard with G70x14 RWL tires. So if you wanted the W23 Magnum 500 Road Wheels you got F70x14 RWL instead or you could order G78 x14 WSW (but not on the Hemi cars). You could of course have the standard G70x14 RWL tires when you ordered W21 14" Rallye Wheels





These two 1971 440+6 Charger R/Ts were built prior to 12/1/70. They have the standard G70x14 RWL tires and the optional W23 Road Wheels



This 1971 Charger R/T is a later build, has the standard G70x14 RWL tires and the optional W21 Rallye Wheels



This 1971 383 Charger SE was built after 12/1/70 and has both optional F70x14 RWL tires and the Road Wheels. You could still order G70x14 RWL tires on your Charger (but not with Road Wheels) and there was mandatory PFDB or HD Drum Brakes if you did.

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Old 06-17-2017, 08:10 PM   #13437
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I believe this photo is a companion to the ones above that were used in the Brochure. You can see the water background setting is the same

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Old 06-17-2017, 11:36 PM   #13438
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Stepping away from Muscle Cars for a moment . . .

What a difference one model year makes. Compare the 1961 Lincoln and Thunderbird to the 1960 models below. These would be the last two cars Elwood Engle would help design before he left Ford in November 1961 to join Chrysler and become Chief Stylist. It was Engle that convinced Ford President Robert McNamara that the Lincoln Convertible should be a 4 dr car instead of 2 drs. This made the 1961 to 1967 Lincoln Convertibles unique among all drop tops.



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Did you know . . .

In 1979 when Lee Iacocca approached the United States Congress looking for a loan guarantee to keep Chrysler from going out of business, one of the caveats for the loan was that Chrysler was required to reduce costs and abandon some long standing projects, such as the turbine engine, which had been ready for consumer production in 1979 after nearly 20 years of development.








This was the last of the Chrysler Turbine concept cars - a 1977 Customized LeBaron built for the U.S. Dept. Of Energy

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