Muscle Cars 1962 to 1972

Emil · 10-08-2010, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

My first car!

Bought in May 1968. I had just turned 17 - was living in Liberty, NY at the time where it was 17 for a full drivers license.

1964 Impala SS Convertible with 327/300HP and a 2 speed powerglide with dual exhausts.

Only it wasn't red. It was Lagoon Aqua Metallic like this one with a matching interior and a white convertible top.

Had an 8-Track tape player in it and . . . a reverb!

Wow cool first car !!!

Got to love the old Powerslide trans

.

Lee Stewart · 10-08-2010, 10:08 PM

I have to say I have gained great insight and an education in creating this thread. The more I thought I knew, the more I realized I only knew the "main facts" of the muscle car years. All the little facts I gleaned by doing dectective and research work to come up with many of the posts was truly enlightening. My confidence level in spotting what is right and what is wrong when cars are shown on the auction programs has increased 100 times. I now understand why one W30 442 can command $200,000 while another which looks almost identical, only goes as high as $50,000.

Plus, having restored a few muscle cars over the years, I now understand the true differences between one that was done to true factory specifications, versus one that had some free style added. And IMO, these free style changes affect the value of the cars today. Investors lose confidence in a car if they see them. Cause what about the things they can't see?

Now, don't get me wrong here. I am all for resto-mods. I have owned a number of them and they are a lot of fun to drive and take to shows and outtings. But there is a difference, a huge difference, between an investment grade muscle car and a daily driver.

I don't think there is much left to post, as far as pictures of rare/low production muscle cars. I think I got them all. At least all those that exist. And yes I did take just a few libertites with cars that were built that just haven't surfaced yet, if they even exist at all any more. I did want accuracy to be the most important factor in creating this thread.

Of course, at the next Mecum or Barrett-Jackson auction, that can all change and more data will be added to this thread.

That 67 Baldwin Motion SS427 Chevelle I posted. All that remains of the car is a hulk. Like what I posted with "The Texas Rattler" Hemi Super Stocker before it's incredible restoration. What surprised me the most was the 3 1970 Road Runner Hemi Convertibles . . . not one has surfaced. No one knows what happened to 2 of them and the 3rd is long gone.

If you watched that L88 Corvette parade video, you saw a 1967 L88 Coupe. Red, white and blue - #9. A former race car. I know that car and it's owner. He was the president of our Corvette Club and the car is on Long Island (LOL - at least it used to be). I saw what he started with - nothing but 1/4 of the body shell. The forward windshield area. But it did have the VIN on the windshield support frame and the VIN was one of the 20 L88's built in 1967. He invested well over $150,000 (almost 20 years ago) in restoring the car. I will never forget the unveiling of the car many years ago. I was a judge at our big corvette/classic car show and we got to the dealership around 7AM. There were 6 of us all drinking coffee and in the distance, down Sunrise Tpke (30MPH) we hear this thunder approaching . We can't see anything, but the sound is building. All of a sudden we see the car - driving down a town street with open headers and close to 600HP and he's dragging 2nd gear.

So lets hear from all the over 12,000 people that have/are viewing this thread and please share some of your car stories. I KNOW that Emil and I aren't the only ones with a love of muscle cars and have owned them in the past or appreciated them.

Don't be shy.

Emil · 10-09-2010, 05:06 AM

Lee,

Forgot to ask, how'ed the reverb do when you hit your first major bump

.

Emil

Lee Stewart · 10-09-2010, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Lee,

Forgot to ask, how'ed the reverb do when you hit your first major bump

.

Emil

Wannnnnnnnng!

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:11 PM

1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS/SS Coupe 396/375 HP, 4-Speed

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-102754

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:13 PM

1963 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 Coupe 327/360 HP, 4-Speed

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-103038

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:14 PM

1963 Shelby Cobra DragonSnake Costilow/Larson, CSX2093

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-103896

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:16 PM

1962 Chevrolet Corvette Sebring Race Car 327/360 HP, 4-Speed

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...41&entryRow=60

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:17 PM

1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Convertible 396/375 HP, 3-Speed Automatic - Watkins Glen Pace Car

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...53&entryRow=73

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:18 PM

1962 Ford Thunderbird Convertible M-Code 390/340 HP, Automatic

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...57&entryRow=77

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:19 PM

1971 Plymouth Hemi Cuda Pro Stock Sox & Martin, 426 CI, 4-Speed

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...97&entryRow=90

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:21 PM

1968 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RS Coupe 302/295 HP, 4-Speed

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...3&entryRow=117

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:22 PM

1964 Plymouth Hemi Savoy Lightweight

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...7&entryRow=128

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:25 PM

These next two vehicles are outside of the 62 to 72 time period, but you have to admit they are . . .

Unique

Lee Stewart · 12-06-2010, 05:26 PM

1948 Mercury Saturn Custom Bob Hope Special

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...7&entryRow=144

10-08-2010, 10:08 PM	#1502
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	I have to say I have gained great insight and an education in creating this thread. The more I thought I knew, the more I realized I only knew the "main facts" of the muscle car years. All the little facts I gleaned by doing dectective and research work to come up with many of the posts was truly enlightening. My confidence level in spotting what is right and what is wrong when cars are shown on the auction programs has increased 100 times. I now understand why one W30 442 can command $200,000 while another which looks almost identical, only goes as high as $50,000. Plus, having restored a few muscle cars over the years, I now understand the true differences between one that was done to true factory specifications, versus one that had some free style added. And IMO, these free style changes affect the value of the cars today. Investors lose confidence in a car if they see them. Cause what about the things they can't see? Now, don't get me wrong here. I am all for resto-mods. I have owned a number of them and they are a lot of fun to drive and take to shows and outtings. But there is a difference, a huge difference, between an investment grade muscle car and a daily driver. I don't think there is much left to post, as far as pictures of rare/low production muscle cars. I think I got them all. At least all those that exist. And yes I did take just a few libertites with cars that were built that just haven't surfaced yet, if they even exist at all any more. I did want accuracy to be the most important factor in creating this thread. Of course, at the next Mecum or Barrett-Jackson auction, that can all change and more data will be added to this thread. That 67 Baldwin Motion SS427 Chevelle I posted. All that remains of the car is a hulk. Like what I posted with "The Texas Rattler" Hemi Super Stocker before it's incredible restoration. What surprised me the most was the 3 1970 Road Runner Hemi Convertibles . . . not one has surfaced. No one knows what happened to 2 of them and the 3rd is long gone. If you watched that L88 Corvette parade video, you saw a 1967 L88 Coupe. Red, white and blue - #9. A former race car. I know that car and it's owner. He was the president of our Corvette Club and the car is on Long Island (LOL - at least it used to be). I saw what he started with - nothing but 1/4 of the body shell. The forward windshield area. But it did have the VIN on the windshield support frame and the VIN was one of the 20 L88's built in 1967. He invested well over $150,000 (almost 20 years ago) in restoring the car. I will never forget the unveiling of the car many years ago. I was a judge at our big corvette/classic car show and we got to the dealership around 7AM. There were 6 of us all drinking coffee and in the distance, down Sunrise Tpke (30MPH) we hear this thunder approaching . We can't see anything, but the sound is building. All of a sudden we see the car - driving down a town street with open headers and close to 600HP and he's dragging 2nd gear. So lets hear from all the over 12,000 people that have/are viewing this thread and please share some of your car stories. I KNOW that Emil and I aren't the only ones with a love of muscle cars and have owned them in the past or appreciated them. Don't be shy. Last edited by Lee Stewart; 04-08-2012 at 02:24 AM.

10-09-2010, 05:06 AM	#1503
Emil High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Barrington, Il. Age: 60 Posts: 2,304	Lee, Forgot to ask, how'ed the reverb do when you hit your first major bump . Emil __________________ Panasonic TC-P65VT30 Panasonic TC-L42E50 Panasonic DMP-BDT210 Pioneer VSX-1021-K Klipsch DirecTV HR34-700 DirecTV C31-700 Missing Pam

12-06-2010, 05:11 PM	#1505
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS/SS Coupe 396/375 HP, 4-Speed http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-102754

12-06-2010, 05:13 PM	#1506
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1963 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 Coupe 327/360 HP, 4-Speed http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-103038

12-06-2010, 05:14 PM	#1507
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1963 Shelby Cobra DragonSnake Costilow/Larson, CSX2093 http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-103896

12-06-2010, 05:16 PM	#1508
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1962 Chevrolet Corvette Sebring Race Car 327/360 HP, 4-Speed http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...41&entryRow=60

12-06-2010, 05:17 PM	#1509
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Convertible 396/375 HP, 3-Speed Automatic - Watkins Glen Pace Car http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...53&entryRow=73

12-06-2010, 05:18 PM	#1510
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1962 Ford Thunderbird Convertible M-Code 390/340 HP, Automatic http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...57&entryRow=77

12-06-2010, 05:19 PM	#1511
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1971 Plymouth Hemi Cuda Pro Stock Sox & Martin, 426 CI, 4-Speed http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...97&entryRow=90

12-06-2010, 05:21 PM	#1512
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1968 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RS Coupe 302/295 HP, 4-Speed http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...3&entryRow=117

12-06-2010, 05:22 PM	#1513
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1964 Plymouth Hemi Savoy Lightweight http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...7&entryRow=128

12-06-2010, 05:25 PM	#1514
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	These next two vehicles are outside of the 62 to 72 time period, but you have to admit they are . . . Unique

12-06-2010, 05:26 PM	#1515
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	1948 Mercury Saturn Custom Bob Hope Special http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...7&entryRow=144