Schwarzenegger's visit to Canada brings legislation to the fore

ah802 · 06-01-2007, 03:03 PM

Looks like Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger extracted a few favours out of PM Harper, one of which is the promise to change legislation that will not allow so called 'Cam Movies', not that this a big issue on the streets and Canada certainly isn't the hotbed of theatre copies that the press has been making out, look to NY & LA for that.

Key points:

* The recording of a movie in a movie theatre without the consent of the theatre's manager.
* The recording of a movie in a movie theatre without the consent of the theatre's manager for the purpose of selling, renting, or other commercial distribution of a copy of the recording.

Under the new bill, the first offence could draw up to two years in jail, and the second, a penalty of up to five years.

http://politics.slashdot.org/article.../06/01/1424200
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/20...gislation.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

Disturbing stats seem to be very one sided... Check out http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ for his blog of the one sided viewpoint and the power of "The Swartz"

luminous · 06-03-2007, 03:55 AM

I can't understand why someone would want to waste a movie by watching a cam version anyway.

ah802 · 06-03-2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luminous

I can't understand why someone would want to waste a movie by watching a cam version anyway.

Cam movies are offered for sale on the streets by fly-by-night vendors (usually 4 to 6 for $20) and as long as the cover image is good.. they sell like hotcakes. The buyers are encouraged to pick them up by their offspring.. saving a rental return in their busy schedule.

Reading a quote the other day by a famous author who was disgusted by 'empty hollywood flics' filling minds full of nothing. Reminded me of the lack of respect for visual communication and the beauty of life through the eyes of others, and the rich details HD brings into a world of empty minds full of nothing.

DSNY FN · 06-03-2007, 04:41 PM

More important to this is the agreement on stem cell research and the environmental improvements they are to work on who really cares about the movie side of this agreement.

**rbinck** · 06-03-2007, 04:56 PM

What kind of stem cell research?

luminous · 06-03-2007, 07:32 PM

ah802 - I know how they are sold i just dont know why someone would want one

DSNY FN - I think he meant important to these forums. All though stem cells legislation is important i dont think its offered in High def. Personally i cant wait till i can grow a host body...we could have such fun together.

DSNY FN · 06-03-2007, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

What kind of stem cell research?

They didn't really get into details but I will try and look into it a little further and let you know.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/...r-ontario.html

DSNY FN · 06-03-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luminous

ah802 - I know how they are sold i just dont know why someone would want one

DSNY FN - I think he meant important to these forums. All though stem cells legislation is important i dont think its offered in High def. Personally i cant wait till i can grow a host body...we could have such fun together.

You are correct but to me the other topics are farmore important LOL.

**rbinck** · 06-04-2007, 11:10 AM

I wish when these programs are discussed by the media they would say whether they are talking about adult stem cells, umbilical chord stem cells, embryonic stem cells, etc. They really are very different areas of research, but the media seems to lump them all into a single category, I guess to soften the embryonic stem cell debate. There are many successful treatments utilizing adult stem cells in use today, but as far as I know none yet for the others.

DSNY FN · 06-04-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

I wish when these programs are discussed by the media they would say whether they are talking about adult stem cells, umbilical chord stem cells, embryonic stem cells, etc. They really are very different areas of research, but the media seems to lump them all into a single category, I guess to soften the embryonic stem cell debate. There are many successful treatments utilizing adult stem cells in use today, but as far as I know none yet for the others.

You are correct and I think it is the reason you mention to soften the debates and get people to accept it by not having to think about all forms of the research and just picture the adult research.

ah802 · 06-12-2007, 12:46 PM

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/223795

It's a sad day when Canadians let foreign business write their laws behind closed doors... and get them passed! Some movie premieres open with a police search of all bags (looking for cams), but enforcement is going to be joke and thankfully they didn't get what they really wanted (US style DRM).

Distributors Association president Douglas Frith one year earlier, at which Frith provided the government with draft legislation – legislation that the lobby group itself had crafted – that likely served as the basis for what is now Bill C-59. Existing legislation could have handled this, there is enough rules on the books to prevent Cams and distribution.

Quoting one user on Slash: "Stephen Harper is so far up George Bush's ass that he can almost see Tony Blair's feet."

http://politics.slashdot.org/article...50200&from=rss

Don't vote for Harper.

06-01-2007, 03:03 PM	#1
ah802 Visual Arts Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,241	Schwarzenegger's visit to Canada brings legislation to the fore Looks like Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger extracted a few favours out of PM Harper, one of which is the promise to change legislation that will not allow so called 'Cam Movies', not that this a big issue on the streets and Canada certainly isn't the hotbed of theatre copies that the press has been making out, look to NY & LA for that. Key points: * The recording of a movie in a movie theatre without the consent of the theatre's manager. * The recording of a movie in a movie theatre without the consent of the theatre's manager for the purpose of selling, renting, or other commercial distribution of a copy of the recording. Under the new bill, the first offence could draw up to two years in jail, and the second, a penalty of up to five years. http://politics.slashdot.org/article.../06/01/1424200 http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/20...gislation.html http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home Disturbing stats seem to be very one sided... Check out http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ for his blog of the one sided viewpoint and the power of "The Swartz"

06-03-2007, 04:41 PM	#4
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06-04-2007, 11:10 AM	#9
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 12,338	I wish when these programs are discussed by the media they would say whether they are talking about adult stem cells, umbilical chord stem cells, embryonic stem cells, etc. They really are very different areas of research, but the media seems to lump them all into a single category, I guess to soften the embryonic stem cell debate. There are many successful treatments utilizing adult stem cells in use today, but as far as I know none yet for the others. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

06-12-2007, 12:46 PM	#11
ah802 Visual Arts Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,241	Behind the scenes account of how HollyWood pulled this off. http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/223795 It's a sad day when Canadians let foreign business write their laws behind closed doors... and get them passed! Some movie premieres open with a police search of all bags (looking for cams), but enforcement is going to be joke and thankfully they didn't get what they really wanted (US style DRM). Distributors Association president Douglas Frith one year earlier, at which Frith provided the government with draft legislation – legislation that the lobby group itself had crafted – that likely served as the basis for what is now Bill C-59. Existing legislation could have handled this, there is enough rules on the books to prevent Cams and distribution. Quoting one user on Slash: "Stephen Harper is so far up George Bush's ass that he can almost see Tony Blair's feet." http://politics.slashdot.org/article...50200&from=rss Don't vote for Harper.

06-03-2007, 03:55 AM	#2
luminous How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20	I can't understand why someone would want to waste a movie by watching a cam version anyway.

06-03-2007, 07:32 PM	#6
luminous How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20	ah802 - I know how they are sold i just dont know why someone would want one DSNY FN - I think he meant important to these forums. All though stem cells legislation is important i dont think its offered in High def. Personally i cant wait till i can grow a host body...we could have such fun together.