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Old 12-15-2006, 09:37 PM   #1
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hey guys the AR HDMI cable is indeed 50$ cheaper, i might get it tommorow but i had a question, is there ANY difference at all in the PQ between these 2 cables? i am currently using top of the line monster component cables so what i wanted to know is, should i bother to get the AR HDMI(since the monster one is too expensive) and will i get a better PQ? i have a 50' sammy DLP HDTV btw.
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Old 12-16-2006, 06:42 AM   #2
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Don't waste your money on Monster cables. The AR cable will produce equal pq.
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Old 12-16-2006, 04:20 PM   #3
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Nope...I wouldn't waste my money on either pair...
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:24 PM   #4
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There's a lot of hate for Monster around here...I CAN tell you there was definitely a difference between UR component cables (which were okay) and Monster component cables (which are way better)...I know this from my own experience. So theoretically the same may be true for HDMI.

However, if your strapped for cash just go with anything that looks like decent HDMI cable for now.
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As long as you get a nice AWG cable (nothing skinny like 28AWG) it's all the same, except the price.

The same goes for component video. Good quality RG-6 component video cables beat the crap out of junky RG-59 (or smaller) cables. Monster uses a good thick cable, and if you compare that to a low quality cable, Monster will win hands down. I don't fault Monster quality, just the price!

I'd put my RG6 cables up against the most expensive Monster cables any day of the week.
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:31 AM   #6
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So theoretically the same may be true for HDMI.
No, no, no! There's a big difference between the way analog (component) and digital (HDMI) cables carry signals. I'll avoid the electrical engineering and just say ANY cable that carries an HDMI cable meets a certain standard. So the $10 cable will operate the same as the $100+ Monster cable. You will not see a difference in picture quality.
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:49 AM   #7
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so u say i should go with HDMI? the guy in Radioshack told me i dont need to since my 50' dlp only does 1080i and not 1080p, so?
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Go with the least expensive HDMI cables you can find.
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:03 AM   #9
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Keep in mind that the HDMI supports all current resolution types…and because it also carries digital audio signals, it make for a nice…clean installation. One wire does it all.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...d=10240&style=

I myself went the the "premium" HDMI from the link above. It's far cheaper than anything you can get from your local electronics stores.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:13 PM   #10
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hey guys the AR HDMI cable is indeed 50$ cheaper, i might get it tommorow but i had a question, is there ANY difference at all in the PQ between these 2 cables? i am currently using top of the line monster component cables so what i wanted to know is, should i bother to get the AR HDMI(since the monster one is too expensive) and will i get a better PQ? i have a 50' sammy DLP HDTV btw.
Don't buy into the premium cable hype. There is no scientific proof that cables will give better PQ/AQ. I bought a bunch of AR cables off of ebay for around $50. If BB had it their way I would have bought $800 worth of Monster cables.

Cables are pretty much cables. Don't let someone else fool you.
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There's a lot of hate for Monster around here...I CAN tell you there was definitely a difference between UR component cables (which were okay) and Monster component cables (which are way better)...I know this from my own experience. So theoretically the same may be true for HDMI.

However, if your strapped for cash just go with anything that looks like decent HDMI cable for now.
I don't HATE Monster cables, I just think they are WAAAYYYY overpriced and don't do anything for you.

Please post some proof that your Monster cables are better then my AR cables. As I said I bought 3 sets of component, an s-video, and a digital coax cable for ~$50. You won't see or hear a difference in SQ or PQ. There is zero evidence that better cable produce better PQ or AQ.

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I don't HATE Monster cables, I just think they are WAAAYYYY overpriced and don't do anything for you.

Please post some proof that your Monster cables are better then my AR cables. As I said I bought 3 sets of component, an s-video, and a digital coax cable for ~$50. You won't see or hear a difference in SQ or PQ. There is zero evidence that better cable produce better PQ or AQ.

Cables rely on the placebo effect to convince people.
Proof? I'm not sure what "evidence" I can offer you. I can only tell you that I used to have a 36" Sony Wega for a while and connected my DVD player with AR component video cable. It was fine. But then I bought a 42" widescreen along with a new progressive scan Sony dvd player. I noticed when I watched Gladiator on dvd I was getting digital artifacts of some sort. Well I decided (being more of a novice back then) to change component cables to Monster cables. It didn't get rid of the artifacts (turned out to be a bad player), but I could instantly see that the picture was more detailed (like I noticed the tiny marks on Maximus' helmet in the famous "My name is Gladiator" scene, or the stubble on his face a bit more). While the colors were very vibrant through the AR cables (the red flags carried by the Roman soldiers were REALLY red), the colors were more realistic and detailed through the Monster.

Admittedly, the differences are subtle but I definitely noticed them. And as far as a placebo-effect, I went into upgrading the cables for one reason, I found they were better for another. I admit, AR cables will "do the job" but just because you don't want to pay more (and who can blame you?) doesn't mean I'm making sh!t up or am easily fooled.

I don't know what "proof" you want besides my own discovery...but there it is.

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Voyeur, are the two sets of cables identical in size? Are they both RG-59, or is one RG-59 and one RG-6? That makes all the difference in the world. I see a big difference between the RG-59 component video cables my cable company gave me, and the RG-6 component video cables I bought from monoprice.

Just asking, since I've never used the AR cables.
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Voyeur, are the two sets of cables identical in size? Are they both RG-59, or is one RG-59 and one RG-6? That makes all the difference in the world. I see a big difference between the RG-59 component video cables my cable company gave me, and the RG-6 component video cables I bought from monoprice.

Just asking, since I've never used the AR cables.
I'm not sure, truthfully. I gave my dad my AR cables but I can show the monster cables I have now:

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Cable-.../dp/B00003CWE6

And these are the AR cables I used to have:

http://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Resea...199335-9988426
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:50 AM   #15
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The Monster cables are double shielded, but I can't tell if the AR cables are single or double shielded. The picture only shows one level of shielding. It could be that the Monster cables are RG-6, whereas the AR cables are only RG-59. That, in my opinion, would explain the quality difference you see. If you have a spare few bucks, you could buy a set of RG-6 component video cables from monoprice and take the "Pepsi challenge".
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