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Old 04-10-2013, 10:59 AM   #1
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Default Help hooking up VCR/DVD player to Toshiba 50" LED TV--Please help Mom

We need help hooking a Toshiba 50L2200U 50” TV up to a Magnavox DVD225MG9 VCR/DVD player.

My mother lives in the country and does not have cable/dish/satellite, etc. She uses a converter box and an antenna to get TV.


She got a new TV—Toshiba 50L2200U. Setup info begins on page 21 of the user manual located here: (I'm new so I can't put the U R L--instead I've attached it in the .pdf document)

We are trying to hook up a Magnavox DVD225MG9 VCR/DVD Player dual deck to the Toshiba TV. Hookup info begins on page 9 of the user manual located here: (I'm new so I can't put the U R L--instead I've attached it in the .pdf document)

I am attaching screen captures of the jacks that are available on the BACK of both units.

History:

The dual deck VCR/DVD player was previously hooked up to a VERY OLD (25+ years) big screen TV without any problems, using COMPOSITE video cables (Red, Yellow, and White).

My brother tried hooking the unit up to the TV using the old COMPOSITE video cables (Red, Yellow, and White) and we got a black and white picture on BOTH the VCR and DVD player.

My brother hooked the unit up to the TV using new COMPONENT video cables (Red, Green, and Blue) and we thought all was well. The DVD player played fine. However, when mom went to play a VHS tape, she did not have any picture or sound from the VHS side of the dual deck.

Mom is elderly and is getting frustrated. I tape a lot of TV for her each week and take it to her on VHS. We need to get this thing working.

Reminder: She uses a converter box and an antenna to get TV; she does not have cable box/dish/satellite.

Please, if anyone can help, I would really appreciate it! Mom just battled ovarian cancer and has recovered, and this new TV is her gift to herself. We need to get her setup working! Thank you!!
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:50 AM   #2
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Without knowing a whole lot about the DVD/VCR, here is what I see...

The DVD player can play through component (red-blue-green/red-white No. 6 and No. 2 on your pdf) right? That should give you a picture and sound from any DVD you play.

A VHS does not play through component (in general, and it seems like yours does not) so it needs a composite connection, (yellow/red-white No.5 and No. 2). If this is how it is set up, you would need to change the TV from component to composite input to see or hear anything.

One thing that may be an issue (again, without any knowledge of your system) is that some TV's share one component and one composite input. You cannot use that feature and will need individual inputs.
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Without knowing a whole lot about the DVD/VCR, here is what I see...

The DVD player can play through component (red-blue-green/red-white No. 6 and No. 2 on your pdf) right? That should give you a picture and sound from any DVD you play.

A VHS does not play through component (in general, and it seems like yours does not) so it needs a composite connection, (yellow/red-white No.5 and No. 2). If this is how it is set up, you would need to change the TV from component to composite input to see or hear anything.

One thing that may be an issue (again, without any knowledge of your system) is that some TV's share one component and one composite input. You cannot use that feature and will need individual inputs.
Thanks! So...looking at the picture of the back of the VCR, are you saying that we should be able to use "COMPOSITE" cords (red/green/blue) in the "column" where 2 and 5 are, and that should allow her to view both VHS and DVD?

On her TV, she has a menu that shows:
- TV/Antenna
- ColorStream HD
- HDMI 1
- HDMI 2
- PC

So...from what we can tell, she only has ONE connection (ColorStream HD which Toshiba says is what they call their "composite video" connection) to hook up to, right? Because she doesn't have HDMI and isn't hooking up a PC?

So confused as to why this thing won't work...it's a dual deck so it SHOULD work with only one set of cords?? Thank you!
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I seem to recall that dual DVD/VHS output machines may only send DVDs using the component video connection. VHS has to use composite video.

Composite = the single video cable (yellow)
Copmponent = the three cable bumdle (red/green/blue)
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From the pictures you supplied, it looks like your TV has combined the component/composite inputs so that both cannot be used at the same time. For this to work, you will need to:

1)Disconnect the Component(DVD only) connections between the DVD/VCR and the TV.
2) Connect the DVD/VCR and the TV using the Composite(Red, White, Yellow) cables using the column of outputs labeled DVD/VCR(audio out, video out) on the DVD/VCR and using the inputs labeled R(sound) L/MONO(sound) and Y/VIDEO(video) under "VIDEO/COLOR STREAM HD" on your TV. Make sure the inputs labeled "Pr" and "Pb" don't have cables going in them.


If you have cables connected like this and you are still having problems, let us know....
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From the pictures you supplied, it looks like your TV has combined the component/composite inputs so that both cannot be used at the same time. For this to work, you will need to:

1)Disconnect the Component(DVD only) connections between the DVD/VCR and the TV.
2) Connect the DVD/VCR and the TV using the Composite(Red, White, Yellow) cables using the column of outputs labeled DVD/VCR(audio out, video out) on the DVD/VCR and using the inputs labeled R(sound) L/MONO(sound) and Y/VIDEO(video) under "VIDEO/COLOR STREAM HD" on your TV. Make sure the inputs labeled "Pr" and "Pb" don't have cables going in them.


If you have cables connected like this and you are still having problems, let us know....
This will not work, you can not have green from DVD out and yellow from VCR out going to same in port of the TV. Plus you would need to go into TV menue and change input fron A/V to Color Stream every time .
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This will not work, you can not have green from DVD out and yellow from VCR out going to same in port of the TV. Plus you would need to go into TV menue and change input fron A/V to Color Stream every time .
I don't believe you can use Composite and Component(Color Stream HD) cables at the same time with this TV. To connect the DVD/VCR to this TV, you will have to use the composite cables only.

To tell the TV you will be using the Composite cables only, you will need to go into the TV menus, find the "AV INPUT" line, then select "Video" instead of "ColorStream HD"
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I don't believe you can use Composite and Component(Color Stream HD) cables at the same time with this TV. To connect the DVD/VCR to this TV, you will have to use the composite cables only.

To tell the TV you will be using the Composite cables only, you will need to go into the TV menus, find the "AV INPUT" line, then select "Video" instead of "ColorStream HD"
Thanks, everyone. Okay, but on her "INPUT" button she only gets these 5 options---none of them say VIDEO:

0 - TV/Antenna
1 - ColorStream HD
2 - HDMI 1
3 - HDMI 2
4 - PC

I can't believe this is so difficult. I swear, at this point I'm starting to think I should just buy her a brand new DVD player that would hook up to the HDMI connection, so she could hook up red/yellow/white to------------ugh?! To where? The Toshiba manual says "ColorStream HD" is their name for "component" video (which won't transport a VHS signal). I'm starting to wonder--is there NO WAY to hook a VCR up to this TV?

Thanks for your help.
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Remember. VCR's are outdated things that at their best were terrible. The only thing good about them is the home recording part.

Modern TV's really don't like a VCR type of signal...sort of a digital versus analog issue. The picture quality will be terrible, and because you now put a terrible picture on a much larger TV, it will look even more terrible.

In order for this to work, you need to buy a DVD recorder for yourself (to replace your VCR) and simply record on DVD's. That way, you can take them to Mom and she can play them on her new TV just like before. DVD-R discs can be recorded and erased and re-recorded many times.

You can't put your old percolator coffee pot in a microwave, either. Our lives move on and technology follows, or it might be the other way around. Technology move and we follow...
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Remember. VCR's are outdated things that at their best were terrible. The only thing good about them is the home recording part.

Modern TV's really don't like a VCR type of signal...sort of a digital versus analog issue. The picture quality will be terrible, and because you now put a terrible picture on a much larger TV, it will look even more terrible.

In order for this to work, you need to buy a DVD recorder for yourself (to replace your VCR) and simply record on DVD's. That way, you can take them to Mom and she can play them on her new TV just like before. DVD-R discs can be recorded and erased and re-recorded many times.

You can't put your old percolator coffee pot in a microwave, either. Our lives move on and technology follows, or it might be the other way around. Technology move and we follow...
Thanks for the opinion, but I'm afraid mom is old school and doesn't WANT to watch all her favorite TV shows on DVD. I already own a DVD recorder, but honor her request to not bring her shows on DVD. Thus, we're trying to find out if it's possible to get her existing equipment hooked up to her new TV.
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Thanks, everyone. Okay, but on her "INPUT" button she only gets these 5 options---none of them say VIDEO:

0 - TV/Antenna
1 - ColorStream HD
2 - HDMI 1
3 - HDMI 2
4 - PC

I can't believe this is so difficult. I swear, at this point I'm starting to think I should just buy her a brand new DVD player that would hook up to the HDMI connection, so she could hook up red/yellow/white to------------ugh?! To where? The Toshiba manual says "ColorStream HD" is their name for "component" video (which won't transport a VHS signal). I'm starting to wonder--is there NO WAY to hook a VCR up to this TV?

Thanks for your help.
I have attached a picture of the menu I was referring to; can you access it? If you can, see if you can change where it says "ColorStream HD" to "Video" Regardless of whether you get a new DVD player with HDMI, you will need to enable the Composite video input on the TV if you want to connect the DVD/VCR to the TV.
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I have attached a picture of the menu I was referring to; can you access it? If you can, see if you can change where it says "ColorStream HD" to "Video" Regardless of whether you get a new DVD player with HDMI, you will need to enable the Composite video input on the TV if you want to connect the DVD/VCR to the TV.
Thank you. I am going back up to mother's this Sunday and will try to find a way to get into that menu to see if that can be changed. The image you posted is from page 46 of the manual and it's the section for selecting language and setting up the channels, etc. I'm not sure if the AV Video field is one that can be changed in that section. I know when I push the big INPUT button on the remote, I get the list of options above (0, 1, 2, 3, 4) but CANNOT "toggle" the "ColorStream HD" to "Video"--it doesn't change.

I will report back what happens. I am afraid mom will go yet another week without being able to watch the 2 weeks of shows she is waiting to watch. But "fingers crossed"...
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Thank you, everyone! We got it to work, so mom can watch VHS tapes and DVDs in color.

Moghedien4, your steps were very helpful. I hooked the composite cables up to the locations you provided and got rid of the component cables since they wouldn't support the VHS side of the dual deck. Our problem originally was that the TV didn't ship with the manual, so we attempted to setup the TV without it! So...I didn't know how to access the Menu to change the A/V to "Video" instead of ColorStream. Once we figured out we needed to toggle between the 5 "images" at the top of the screen inside the menu, to get to Preferences, we were able to change it and were able to see VHS tapes and DVDs in color.

Mom is now THRILLED with her new TV! Again, THANK YOU to everyone who helped us!
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